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Is German Autumn really a used term in Britain or the states for the Deutsche Herbst? Or is it a translation from a german? --mirer 19:49, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Google for "german autumn" finds 9100 hits, including a book on the subject and a BBC newsstory (which uses both "autumn of terror" and "german autumn" - both in quotation marks). I suspect the events are nit significant enough for the english speaking world to warrant a proper word other than the translation 195.128.251.243 21:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the extra-judical killings... why not point to a couple of links to sources or other debate? It's an important part of left-wing mythology and I'd like to read more about it.


Why is the PFLP called a 'terrorist group'? They are freedom fighters.

  • Raf confuses them with the royal air force.

Misleading description of Schleyer

In the article Schleyer is introduced as "former SS officer and NSDAP member" and "industrialist". Schleyer was a board member at Daimler-Benz and president of the powerful federation of employers' associations. The description in this article reduces his importance largely to his past (he joined the SS whan he was 18) and thus suggests strongly and right from the start that he somehow deserved what he got and that his murderers had, after all, a point. To discuss the fact that Schleyer was a controversial figure for more than one reason in a separate paragraph further down the page would do the truth a better service.

I recommend, for those who can read it, the German entry.

Verity Truth 21:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

German Autumn

I suspect the events are nit significant enough for the english speaking world to warrant a proper word other than the translation

Why use anything BUT the translation when the term is so clearly defined? Did we Germans invent anything fancy for -- say -- the Wars of the Roses instead of calling it just Rosenkriege? No, we didn't. Would there be a necessity to call it anything else? Geranienkriege or what?

And anybody who finds the events of the German Autumn "not significant", now, exactly 30 years later and in the chilling light of global Islamist terror, needs his head examined some private lessons in history.

Verity Truth 21:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]