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October 17

Category:The Rutles

Category:The Rutles - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete - following category cleanup the remaining material is extensively interlinked and appropriately categorized. No need for the eponymous category. Otto4711 21:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Strange and exotic foods

Category:Strange and exotic foods - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Category is inherently POV; whose idea of "strange" or "exotic"? Foods that seem strange to people in some cultures may be perfectly normal to those accustomed to other cuisines. Dr.frog 16:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Phuture 12-inch singles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Upmerge into Category:Phuture songs, Category:Phuture albums, or both. -- Prove It (talk) 14:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rio de Janeiro

Propose renaming Category:Rio de Janeiro to Category:Rio de Janeiro (state)
Propose renaming Category:People from Rio de Janeiro to Category:People from Rio de Janeiro (state)
Propose renaming Category:Neighbourhoods in Rio de Janeiro to Category:Neighbourhoods in Rio de Janeiro (city)
Propose renaming Category:Mayors of Rio de Janeiro to Category:Mayors of Rio de Janeiro (city)
Propose renaming Category:Sport in Rio de Janeiro to Category:Sport in Rio de Janeiro (state)
Nominator's rationale: the state and th city is different. Matthew_hk tc 13:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mixed : Support disambiguating for state; Oppose disambiguating for city. The article for the city is Rio de Janeiro. Do we really need to disambiguate for categories that are for the city? I think most readers assume that it is the city being referenced when it there is no disambig. Snocrates 03:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Josh Kelley albums

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Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization per precedent. Esprit15d 12:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Convert to article Category:Steam products to article List of Steam products
Nominator's rationale: Steam is a content distribution service as stated in its article. The categorization of products based on its distribution channel is an excessive use of the category function. A List article can better serve the purposes fulfilled by this category. In addition, it would allow extension of its functions.
  1. It allows formatting of text, which can facilitate reading and navigation.
  2. It allows distinction between multiple products covered by a single article. (e.g. Peggle)
  3. It allows listing of Steam products with no Wikipedia article.
  4. It allows adding of additional information such as release date, publisher, etc.
  5. The category is currently used like an article to list future games, this should be done in an article instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Voidvector (talkcontribs) 10:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
--Voidvector 10:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional characters by year

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Nominator's rationale: Delete all per this consensus where it was agreed that this is ambiguous (what exactly does "introduced" mean?) overcategorisation. Note: Category:Characters introduced in 1999 has since then been deleted, and then recreated. RobertGtalk 08:37, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - "Characters" is too vage and by year is overcategorization. It's hard to imagine anyone actually finding these cats useful. Gatoclass 15:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • By all means Delete per all of the above. Cgingold 18:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Question - Were all of those subcats tagged manually, or is there a bot that can do it? The reason I'm asking is, I've come across some equally horrendous "by year" categories which I would love to nominate for deletion, but the thought of tagging them all manually has deterred me from dealing with it. Cgingold 18:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I started using AWB to tag them, but Robert had already done most of them manually (Kudos due to him: too many people making large group noms don't bother tagging all the subcats, which is naughty). AWB does the job quite easily once you have figured out how to set it up (relatively easy for CFD if done on the same way as the nomination, harder for CfR/CfM and/or tagging done after the day when the nomination was made). I think that there are also some bots authorised for this sort of job; if you want some of them tagged, ask the friendly bot-drivers waiting at their taxi-rank. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • If kept, rename to "Fictional characters introduced in XXXX." No opinion on deletion. Postdlf 23:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Quite apart from the non-standard capitalization here, AFAIK it's not generally considered useful on Wikipedia to subclassify politicians by a region, particularly when that regional category ends up as a random jumble of mayors, provincial legislators, federal Members of Parliament and senators. A list would be one thing. A category, no. Delete. Bearcat 06:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Washington Metro to Category:Metrorail (Washington, D.C.)
Nominator's rationale: Rename, to be consistent with the renaming of Washington Metro to Metrorail (Washington, D.C.). –Dream out loud (talk) 05:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Graphics software companies - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Ended up being untenable to try to categorize companies by very generic 'types' of software such as 'Graphics software' Many companies cross categories of software and/or make software that defies categorization. Mostly moved to categorizing companies by country.. Cander0000 05:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Business software companies - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Ended up being untenable to try to categorize companies by very generic 'types' of software such as 'Business software' Many companies cross categories of software and/or make software that defies categorization. Mostly moved to categorizing companies by country. Cander0000 05:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]