Talk:Over the Hedge (Nintendo DS video game)

Requested merge

Since some commented here implying that proper consensus should occur, I say merge the page to Over the Hedge (video game) at this time. There's simply not enough content to warrant its own article and although it appears to be somewhat a sequel with a different storyline, it can still be referenced in the main article. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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• Merge, by my nomination. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose It's a separate game with separate details, as pointed out explicitly in the IGN review quoted by SeizureDog. Current content is of far less importance than potential and in this case the potential is there for a much expanded article. Someone another 18:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
• Merge - if there was significant out-of-universe information to support both the DS version and the other versions (assuming those are otherwise all the same), splitting the articles would be fine, but there's no suggestion, either currently or what I know from the gaming press, that this information will ever be available. However, the merge page needs to make every effort to indicate the DS is smilar in concept but had several different features. --19:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masem (talk • contribs)
• Oppose Also mentioned, the game is functionally different from the other games under the same title and license. Saying that there's "not enough content" is not a good reason at this stage. Give it a couple of months to build itself into an article. If, with time, it is still just a little stub, then merging can be discussed again.--SeizureDog 06:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Might as well add my opinion since I was 'informed' about it. Ok, I've never played the game, or anything; never knew anything about it until it was mentioned. Now, IF the gameplay, reception, etc are different, then yes it certainly can stand on its own vs the others. As I mentioned on the VG project page, this kinda seems similar to cases like TMNT NES vs TMNT arcade -- two games that came out at similar times on the same subject, but were completely different games. Now granted, the renown is quite different, but both that and this are based on licenses, so saying that since it's a movie game it should all be merged isn't all that relevant. ON THE FLIP SIDE, we shouldn't have seperate pages just because we can -- IF it's possible to create a COHERENT and BETTER article by combining them all into an "Over the Hedge video game series" sort of article, then that should be done. The main question is, which would make for better WP articles. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 11:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I don't see much difference: what is it that is specifically unique between the two? We can do somewhat like Resident Evil 4 has: one article that details the GC, PS2, etc., versions altogether (see the exclusive features section there). Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

They're both different products built from the ground up by different developers. RE4 wii edition is RE4 with wiimote-induced flailing added on. They're apples and oranges.Someone another 20:02, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I think a good solution here would be to agree that the DS article should be built to a solid Start class by February '08 or it is considered proven that there is no interest in expanding the article beyond what could be covered in one article for all formats. How does that sound?Someone another 20:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Sounds fair to me.--SeizureDog 00:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Seconded Someone another. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 08:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
• Request to close poll OK guys, I've started improving the article, I'm still a long way off done. By the time I've finished what I'm doing, asked one of the assessment team to give the article a quick look and worked on their recs, it's going to be start class. Everyone seems to have had their say and the necessary work is underway, so how about it? Someone another 09:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

  While the DS side is getting a better treatment appropriate for most VGs, the issue is now the other OtH game article is looking pale; that needs to be improved as well, otherwise I'd argue that while the DS version got the most notable attention, the other console versions had little and thus should be grouped into this one. That may not be the case (that those games weren't notable) but at the article's present state, that's what I garner. I would strongly urge you to also work at improving that other one so that the case for separate articles can be made stronger. (Also suggestion: use hatnotes to direct people to either the comic/movie/other-systems-video game as appropriate, and make sure the distinction about being a different game altogether is stronger in the lead -- it would also be interesting if you could find a source for as to WHY the OtH DS game was done in this fashion (separate gameplay/plot for the others). --MASEM 12:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Points all taken. As far as the other article goes, I will make a quick clean-up, make sure that the gameplay section reflects the actual gameplay and cite a few reviews.Someone another 08:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• Comment, before you use hats, please read about when to use them and when to not use them. Close the poll. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Game's rating

I reverted this edit by A Link to the Past because I don't agree with his thought. What does he mean by "we already have an aggregate score"? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The 73% from GR/GStats is the aggregate (or average) score that we need; stating the range of reviews that it has received is redundant, it's just giving a different version of what's already stated. - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)