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top 1000 scientists

My apologies!Regards

(Venkat Radhakrishnan 06:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Coordinates of Mountain Peaks

File:Pakistanhghmtns.png

Hi, I was creating new pages for highest peaks of Pakistan and I saw this image you updloaded, can you please provdie the coordinates of these mountains? Please reply on my talk page, Thanks.Waqas.usman 15:57, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All coordinates are on my List of highest mountains site, which I see you've already discovered. I've taken a break from mountain peaks for a while, but recently received a series of better maps for the Karakoram, so there may be some changes coming, including the order of the peaks, and therefore the numbers on the image (though most of the coordinates probably are quite accurate already).Afasmit 06:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh ok thanks, but I was looking for co-ordinates of several other peaks as well, peaks that are not in the list of highest mountains. What is your source? Waqas.usman 06:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfD

On 21-Mar, you tagged the redirect Thieme for deletion, but you did not list it at Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion. I have added it to that page for discussion. You may wish to add a comment there if you still wish to see this redirect deleted. In the future, if you nominate a redirect for deletion, please list it. Thanks and let me know if you have any questions. -- JLaTondre 02:53, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Queyranne

Bravo for your cmt

<!-- no idea why this is a red link; the article's name is identical to the name left of the pipe -->

Good catch! The blank in one use, Rhône-Alpes, used what i assume is a non-breaking space character in the title, whereas the editor should have used the special character only in a pipe. Someone's following the lk to create the article resulted in the article having the invisible special character in its title. That could only be seen

  • in the markup of the Rhône-Alpes article (an ampersand-nbsp-semicolon construction), and
  • in the URL of the bio article (with its former title, now the title of a mysterious-looking rdr) (two hex bytes, introduced by percent signs, representing what i presume is a unicode encoding).

(I used the search lk on the "no such article" page to show me the bio; i can't recall the exact details of my investigation, but it included following a red herring of "an en- or em-dash would have this result" and eventually realizing that looking for % signs (in the URL whose apparently normal hyphen i was staring at!) would quickly settle the matter.
Thanks for not just scratching your head and walking away!
--Jerzyt 16:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Głowacki

Thank you for contacting me. I do not operate a bot, I patrol recent changes to Wikipedia with a program designed to revert vandalism and bad edits on sight. I reverted your edit by mistake, I now see that you were just trying to get the cat index right. I will restore your edit and I apologize for the misstep. Regards.--Húsönd 01:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Susumu Ōno

May I ask you to please justify or revert your change of Ōno to Ono in the Susumu Ōno article? Bendono 07:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

duFresne / DuFresne et al. spelling changes; diacritical removals

Just repeating here as a suggestion a comment I made to Guinnog. In the absence of any explanation at the time of the change, such changes will confuse and discourage those watching a favorite article trying to keep the facts - and spelling - correct.

"Sorry to raise a false alarm; this seemed (and still does) an ambitious undertaking for an anonymous user. I noticed the activity when the categories for Nicole duFresne got changed to DuFresne, not her real name. Then I saw the diacriticals removed from such names as Guillermo Gómez Rivera and others. I see now that these names do indeed display properly in the actual category listings. I'm a little surprised that instead of changing the category name-sorting mechanism, they are changing the data going into it and leaving (to those not in the know) apparently misspelled versions of the name behind in the source articles. --CliffC 14:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)" --CliffC 12:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Icelanders

I saw what you did with Bja names, and it appears to be what i see as the soundest approach, duplicate entries. I wrote to Tryggvia (about their unpiping an Icelander) basically sympathizing about the general issue but taking a hard line against alpha'g on Cat pages solely by first name; i'd welcome your thots.
--Jerzyt 20:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Answer

I answered you on my talk page. Alan.ca 08:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A question about the death information you listed for Evert Collier was asked on the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities‎ - specifically [1]. Can you provide any help? Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Barnstar of Diligence
for following up promptly and accurately to a really isoteric request for sourcesHipocrite - «Talk» 22:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Afasmit, I don't understand why this information, once you provided it in response to the above query — but only on Hipocrite's User talk page — was not added to the Discussion page on Evert Collier or incorporated into the article itself in a References section. The way things stand, the information you so diligently provided is not easily accessible, and I think it deserves to be. However, I won't take such action when two editors (yourself and Hipocrite) more knowledgeable than myself have yet to do so. Perhaps you might reconsider? -- Thanks, Deborahjay 09:50, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Afasmit 21:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Jan Janssen

Thanks for your comments, however I believe WP:DAB disagrees...

A disambiguation page is usually named after the generic topic (eg "Term XYZ"). "Term XYZ (disambiguation)" is not the standardized name for a disambiguation page, and is only used when there is a primary topic with an article at "Term XYZ".

From this, and WP:MOSDAB, I read that names should usually be disambiguated unless there is one clear recognised name worldwide. So, based on policy and guideline, I strongly disagree. Regards, SeveroTC 11:47, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure it's really been agreed exactly when a name becomes a primary, especially when it is only between two. Personally, I look for one being overwhelming, which it isn't really. And it isn't exactly laborious changing links as I use AutoWikiBrowser which makes it as easy as the click of a mouse :-) SeveroTC 02:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LoPbN

Your msg and an answer has become part of User talk:Jerzy#LoPbN Deletion.
--Jerzyt 23:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • _ _ While my immediate freedom to be involved has recovered completely since the debacle, there's an election to which i would grant priority, even at a crucial LoPbN juncture, if LoPbN replacement or restoration turns out to be as long a project as i presume it would be.
_ _ While i think the first stages of "replacement" are ideally the proper domain of the developers, it may make sense to spec out the enhancements to the Cat system that would make it capable of replacing LoPbN:
  1. Cats or Cat-oids (Cat-like features that might replace Cats at least for achieving LoPbN's goals, even if most Cats don't justify Cat-oid overhead) that would be driven both from the content of pages in the Cat and from that of the Rdrs that target those pages
  2. (Therefore) DEFAULTSORT tags working in Rdrs (or, better yet, if absent, defaulting to following the pattern inferable from the DEFAULTSORT tag(s) in the target pages!)
  3. Cat indexing more scalably user-friendly than we have yet seen proposed (Please note that several features of the LoPbN indexing scheme were dictated by the prospect that naive LoPbN users would either add entries that didn't fit on previously existing pages, or put them "in order" (at the start or end) on a page they don't belong on; an automatically generated index could be less clumsy and more efficient than my LoPbN tree-structure, without permitting the chaos that preceded it. Not needing to explicitly specify the placement of a new entry, and not needing to assign page titles to subordinate portions of the the index, would permit much more flexibility in the index and the page boundaries.)
  4. I'm not sure either the rectangular index at the top of LoPbN or the on-page "access to rest of list" on every other tree page was ever a good idea; i simply avoided deciding on that about them by extending what i found. I do still like something closer to the "exhaustive list", and emulating it may be a good idea for Cat-oids (and maybe for many-page (otherwise conventional) Cats and long lists of articles on Special pages.)
I would have been likely to support deletion if it had begun with drawing up specs for these features, and provided for deletion only following implementation and exploitation of such a feature set. That long-term goal may be superior to long-term restoration of LoPbN, and in practice the hopefully lesser political effort of achieving it may outweigh the harm done by getting along without LoPbN in the interim.
_ _ As to the content, i saved enuf pages to demonstrate they could all be recovered by any admin, even without fully understanding the interpage organization, and i'd be surprised if that ever changes. If you have a concrete near-term project that depends on it, i could probably complete it before i'm likely to be drafted away from the task.
--Jerzyt 22:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prominence and mountain parentage

On 16 May you reversed my correction to change Manaslu’s “parent” back to Cho Oyu. I understand your point, and stand corrected: despite the fact that Cho Oyu is over 130 miles to the east, and you would have trouble getting from Manaslu to Cho Oyu over land without descending to around 12,000 feet, it is the NEXT HIGHER PEAK. Therefore, Cho Oyu is Manaslu's parent. Now explain to me why Manaslu is not Annapurna’s parent, using your system. Manaslu is higher than Annapurna, and is located between Annapurna and Cho Oyu.

mountain parentage, an obscure science

have been doing some more research since my last comment. my current understanding of parentage is what i call the "high tide" theory. imagine that we had an unusually high tide, say 29,000 ft above normal. the earth would have a single land mass, a small island at the very peak of everest. now imagine that the tide gradually recedes to normal and we watch other islands appear. Cho Oyu, higher than Manaslu or Annapurna, appears as a separate island while the other two are still underwater. Manaslu, higher than Annapurna, appears as a separate island while Annapurna remains submerged. Finally Annapurna emerges as the tide recedes below 8000 meters. the tide continues to recede and Annapurna's island expands, gradually collecting the peaks around it.

Annapurna's parent is the FIRST HIGHER PEAK you can walk to without getting your feet wet as the water recedes. If Manaslu is still an island at this point [because it is surrounded by deep valleys] it loses any potential parentage claim to its neighbor Annapurna in favor of Cho Oyu. Presumably this is because there is a very long northern route thru the tibetan plains that gets you to Cho Oyu.

if this is it, then i do understand and you are correct. whether this use of the word "parent" makes any sense is another issue. just as subsidiary peaks on a ridge need a bit of prominence to be considered seperate peaks for ranking purposes, i think the concept of parent could use a proximity test. 130 miles is a bit far for us amateurs to understand.

any way, nice work on the highest mountain page, and i appreciate your time70.246.7.37 01:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

are you sure?

Are you sure it makes sense to shoehorn individuals with non-European names into the European convention of sorting on the "last name" first?

Personally, I am very skeptical that it makes any sense at all. In the cultures that use Arabic or Pashto the son's first name is the father's last name. Most of the captives in Guantanamo have arabic or pashto names. Further, the DoD did an absolutely terrible job of transliterating their names consistently. They added new components, or took them out, seemingly at random. There are at least two dozen Guantanamo captives where the captive's name is transliterated with different "last names" in two different places their names were rendered.

In my opinion it is far better to just sort them on the first character of the first name.

Cheers! Geo Swan 00:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Categorization_of_people#Sorting_of_surnames_with_independent_prefixes

I am trying to revive the debate on this [2] since there appears to be only one objector, though a very verbose one. You might like to keep an eye on the matter. Thanks Johnbod 15:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kees Bruynzeel

Hi, I have not worked on this article for a long time, but I came from Stellenbosch and know all the places mentioned but I did not know that he was involved with General Box too. Don't you think some may spell his name Bruinzeel, Bruynzeel etc, making it difficult to pinpoint information?Gregorydavid 14:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Biographical project notification

In case you are interested: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography#Sortkey and birth/death categories standardization project. Carcharoth 14:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anneliese van der Pol

I'm not sure if the last name should be listed as "van der Pol" or "Pol" but all you need to do if it should be the latter is change the "deafaultsort" template. It's easier and better than changing each one in a long list. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense and I reverted to how you had it. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Earl of Egmont

I've left a message for you on my talk page. Tryde 18:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok...

Ok, next time I'll just correct it instead of insulting anyone. A typo? You're giving me a hard time for a typo? That's it? I accidently put the r before the a instead of the other way around. I'm sorry, I think I'm doing pretty well with the spelling considering I don't have an editor and no one else assists me in my writing (which, unfortunately, is painfully obvious at some points).Jonas Poole 00:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, I wasn't offended by any of it. I'm half Dutch, so if I were to root for anyone it would be the Dutch whalemen. I haven't read any journals of ships sailing to Jan Mayen, but I have read several that described voyages to Svalbard by English expeditions. Depending on weather and ice conditions, they could take anywhere from 2 1/2 to over 4 weeks to get to Svalbard. These ships usually sailed from Gravesend, in southeastern England, so the distance wouldn't differ that much from vessels sailing from the Dutch ports. Considering Jan Mayen is significantly closer to the home ports than Svalbard, the average voyage there would have been much less, but the times may have overlapped because of those aforementioned weather and ice conditions. Seeing as how 1633 and 1635 were icy years for whaling around Jan Mayen, this may account for De Ruyter's 3 week voyage there. Giving that I don't know the average sailing time to the island, this is only a guess, but, you're right, the time it took for De Ruyter to get to Jan Mayen does seem a bit long. Jonas Poole 00:32, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why *?

I was looking for vandalism, though I accept your changes were not. I also spotted the issue you raised - you wmight want to contribute at Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Large categories and subcategories --Rumping 15:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]