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List of Japanese people

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This page intends to list all notable Japanese people. To me this seems completely inpractical for a singe article. There must be a huge number of notable Japanese people past and present who are not included on the list - even if only the section of ficitonal Japanese people was truely complete it would still proably make it the longest article on Wikipedia. The page is also redundant as many of the listings are duplicated in the various pages from the catagory Lists of Japanese people. This is a catagory not an article. Guest9999 16:41, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of German Americans was not as far as I can tell covered by other more complete articles. There is an amazingly long list of actors, why have a shorter list here. This article needs to split.Ridernyc 12:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Splitting a list is normal improvement work. Do it!. That is far different from deletion which is what is proposed here. Hmains 02:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Our users are in need of sourced, annotated information about notable Japanese individuals as contained in this article. Improve, don't delete, if you have our users in mind. There is no reason in WP's guidelines that calls for us to hamper our users' research by entirely blanking this article. As seen by the many similar deletions over the past months, this delete proposal seems to have been made solely to prove a WP:POINT, and the case that our users should not be permitted to have a well sourced, annotated list of individuals of this notable group has not been convincingly made. Neither has the case been made that a category "does the same job," as a category is clearly not sourced and properly annotated, organized by occupation and date of birth and death, etc. If editors within the community of editors active in Japan-related article (who work together at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan decide that they wish to split this article into sub-articles, then we should let them make this decision, via consensus of editors knowledgeable in this subject. Badagnani 04:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
that's not what this list is though it's just a list with no information at all other than broad categories. Also several of the subsections are redundant of other more appropriate lists. Why is there a long list of actors and actresses and at the bottom a line see also list of Japanese actors, lists of Japanese actresses. This is list is way to broad a topic, and the topics have already been split and covered. Ridernyc 10:03, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - It has already been stated that if editors within the community of editors active in Japan-related article (who work together at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan decide that, because the number of notable Japanese is so large, they wish to split this article into sub-articles by occupation or historical period, then we should let them make this decision, via consensus of editors knowledgeable in this subject, as is typically done for other similar subjects. Badagnani 16:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
if they have something to say the place to do it would be here.Ridernyc 20:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, a split-off list from a notable subject and a valuable navigation aid. Suggest making it into a List of lists (such as for example List of African Americans or Lists of people) instead though, since there are so many sub-lists already created (although List of Russians and List of French people use the same type of long list organization without being randomly targeted for deletion because of it). It is however important that the information is not deleted before being recreated as a "List of lists", in case the contributing editors happen to be off-line during this deletion debate, and any new editors willing to work on it to improve it will need enough time to make sure that the individuals appearing on this list are transfered into the correct sub-lists and that reliable sources from the individual articles are used to verify that sources exist to demonstrate notability. Pia 02:57, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Yet another pointless and indiscriminate list. Use categories. This goes for ALL LISTS OF PEOPLE including List of X-type of Jewish people and List of X-type of gay, lesbian and transgender people. There should be no free pass here. Burntsauce 22:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - No, it really doesn't, as has been pointed out numerous times. A category is not referenced, annotated, and maintainable, and it is not organized, in a single page, by birth date/time period or occupation. Lists and categories are quite different and our users use them to find the information they are looking for in different ways. Both complement our project. Badagnani 22:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep per Hmains, Badagnani, and Pia. As they've already stated, the list allows for more information to be displayed than would a catwegory (even though the catagory (or categories) already exist. The lists allows for much more flexibility in locating information, and provides much more information than a catagory. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep, as above. This is not, and is not supposed to do the same thing at all as a category. Circeus 20:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Much as the idea would be interesting, I think you should do as previously suggested: split this up. After the question of accuracy, I think that there is no real reason to delete this. Koryu Obihiro 02:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.187.181.22 (talk) [reply]
  • Delete - Pointless list... I'd like to see a similar page that does exist.
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