Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rage (fictional virus)
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Non-notable, in-universe only subject. Unlikely reliable sources can be found to indicate notability. Fails WP:FICT. Doctorfluffy 05:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. The parent articles - 28 Days/Weeks Later Characters, 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later and 28 Days Later: The Aftermath - have done nothing but spawn huge piles of in-universe fancruft of which this is yet another. Wikipedia is not a fan site or a free web host. The writers are looking for Geocities, not Wikipedia. ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 09:06, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. No reason for this to have its own page. Just the page for the movie is enough. --Alessandro ♫ T • C 12:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - Many other articles on fictional "in-universe" subjects for movie/television. This is no less legitimate a subject than all the others. -- Voldemore 19:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. For this particular article, reliable sources are needed to demonstrate it's notability or it is subject to deletion. Doctorfluffy 20:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- To be fair, a lot of our editors seem unaware what "in-universe" means and are perhaps unaware of the guideline in the Manual of Style covering writing about fiction without pretending it's real. This leads editors into thinking that we persecute articles about fiction, when in fact all we require is that they are encyclopaedic and meet the specific notability guideline for fiction-related subjects by including independent reliable secondary sources. When Voldemore becomes more familiar with the guidelines, I'm sure s/he'll change opinion immediately. ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 21:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- I suppose I should have explicitly stated it, but WP:FICT is the basis for my nom. I'll add that above. Also, I found your response to be eloquently succinct. Doctorfluffy 22:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- To be fair, a lot of our editors seem unaware what "in-universe" means and are perhaps unaware of the guideline in the Manual of Style covering writing about fiction without pretending it's real. This leads editors into thinking that we persecute articles about fiction, when in fact all we require is that they are encyclopaedic and meet the specific notability guideline for fiction-related subjects by including independent reliable secondary sources. When Voldemore becomes more familiar with the guidelines, I'm sure s/he'll change opinion immediately. ➔ REDVEЯS isn't wearing pants 21:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. For this particular article, reliable sources are needed to demonstrate it's notability or it is subject to deletion. Doctorfluffy 20:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. The virus is just a MacGuffin for a rather superior zombie movie and its sequel, a satire on the War on Terror. --Tony Sidaway 04:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- The sequel is rather inferior, precisely because of that ham-handed attempt at satire....--victor falk 10:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to
utter b*******the article for the film. agree with Tony Sidaway D.C.Rigate 07:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC) - Merge and redirect Medical details are interesting encyclopedic trivia, and should be integrated in the film's article--victor falk 10:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Merge into the movie - surely this would be sufficient? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. It's not notable for people who aren't into the movie, but neither are the United States Democratic presidential candidates, 2008 to someone who doesn't follow American politics. I know there's a difference, but it's a difference of degree. I found the article because I was intrigued about the depictions of fictional diseases in media, not because I'm a huge fan of a zombie movie. This is a decent article and of distinctly different interest than it's parent film. Let it live. --Just Some Guy 12:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete: the entire article is unsourced and appears, to someone who hasn't seen the film, to be almost entirely speculation. This entire article could be shrunk to two lines and dumped into the original 28 Days Later - and, in fact, effectively already is. — Xenoveritas 14:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete for only being of in-universe importance. - Chardish 15:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I was initially inclined to a Merge, since it does contain semi-useful information. However, since it deals with information that is in more than one film, and that develops across the films, I feel after contemplation that it's more desirable to have a separate entry to reduce cross-movie spoilers, MacGuffin though it may be. It definitely needs more explicit referencing as to which info comes from which movie (or book); however, that is a reason to Improve the article, not delete it. That there is massive amounts of fancruft out there is not a justification for deletion; one must show THIS is fancruft. I might be willing to consider amending my vote if someone who's seen the movie(s) and read the graphic novel can show there's extensive fancruft involved here. Abb3w 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)