Talk:Pixies (band)

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— April 2007

Definite article

If this group have devised their own variation on English grammar, then it ought to be explained in the article. --Multivitamin 16:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll write a footnote to clarify usage - good idea. Don't know why I didn't think of that before. CloudNine 17:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Allison

Are you sure the song "Allison" is about Mose Allison? I vaguely recall reading an interview back about the time the album was released in which Black Francis said it was somehow inspired by James Allison and the Allison Engine Company. I also heard it suggested somewhere that it has something to do with Jerry "Ivan" Allison, who played with Buddy Holly and co-wrote "That'll Be The Day" and "Peggy Sue". Unfortunately I can't find a reference which has Francis/Black/Thompson giving a definite explanantion. In the absence of something definitive it is possible the Mose Allison thing was a conclusion that someone jumped to at some point in the past and which has just got copied and repeated so many times that people wrongly assume it's definitive. Circusandmagicfan 11:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[1] says it's about Mose Allison (from a Q article). [2] is transcribed from a Rolling Stone interview, and says the song is about Mose Allison. We can say beyond doubt that it's about Mose Allison. CloudNine 11:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discography

The Infobox musical artist could use verifiable dates for all four record labels listed, and the band template needs release dates for albums and singles. Without such data, I find the band career hard to track, as would many visitors to Wikipedia. - B.C.Schmerker 04:34, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surely the information is already available in the prose? I see no other (featured) band article that does this; perhaps you could point me towards a few examples? CloudNine 06:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Release dates, at least in selected discographies in articles for bands with many releases, are somewhat irrelevant. Oh, they'd be nice to have if someone wants to type them out, but I doubt they're mandatory. At most the year of release should be listed. They cetainly don't belong in the template, though. That would look very messy (I'm thinking mainly of the RHCP band template). WesleyDodds 10:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The

I'm pretty sure this band should be referred to as just pixies without 'the'. See all their album covers. It's correct in the title but not elsewhere in the article. See the two live images, one captioned 'Pixies in concert in Greece...' and the other 'The Pixies in concert in Kansas City' --Neon white 01:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's been discussion about this before in the talk page archives. While the band's name is officially "Pixies", the band itself always says "the Pixies" when using the name in a sentence. WesleyDodds 03:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are examples of both usages. Nevertheless it should really be consistant across the article. --Neon white 15:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you point out others? I've fixed the image caption. (Note that "the only Pixies album" and similar is fine). CloudNine 16:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well firstly the title of the page is just Pixies. Maybe the naming thing needs a mention. After the name was shortened to simply 'pixies' how soon did people add 'the' to it? Maybe something like 'they are now almost exclusively known as the pixies except on album covers. Interestingly Doves never aquired a 'the' --Neon white 21:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's a footnote virtually at the start. It's acquired one because band members refer to themselves as part of "the Pixies"; so we reflect such usage. To clarify: it's the Pixies, not The Pixies. CloudNine 22:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I dont see any footnote. --Neon white 23:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here. It's after the first instance of the band's name. CloudNine 08:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

dynamics

"Pixies songs typically feature hushed, restrained verses, and explosive, wailing choruses"

i realise it might be a little pedantic but some songs have loud verses and quiet choruses, such as 'gouge away' and 'where is my mind' so i find this statment a bit general. It's not that important but one of the reasons i like the pixies so much is that they did the loud quiet dynamics both ways while all the artists that copied(in a sence) this technique only did loud chouses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.193.131 (talk) 20:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hence the word "typically". There of course were exceptions, but in general, Pixies songs were noted for the above dynamic. I'll look further into things though. CloudNine 20:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Misinformed

Black Francis is a misnomer; his real name is Charles Thompson.