User talk:Dionyziz
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The article vanavsos is up for deletion. Can you please help in this regard. Second, I am having difficulty with Wikinfo:Classical definition of republic and am having trouble on Talk:Republic because they won't allow an external link. It was deleted off of Wikipedia, and I believe it needs to come back on. A serious mistake in deleting this article. Thanks for your time.WHEELER 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for asking so nicely, but I don't see a point in helping you regarding Talk:Republic. Quoting from the talk page: "See, you are just jealous. Compare your article republic with my article, Wikinfo:Classical definition of republic [...]. You can't even begin to write an article like I can." Well, as far as I know, Wikipedia is not about one writting a better article than the other, rather than all of us contributing to it in order to achive the best result. So, you'd better try to help build a better wikipedia by contributing in articles, instead of arguing all the time about certain little things (like an external link), IMHO. Sorry if I'm being offensive, but that's what I think!... Good luck. dionyziz 20:01, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
Macedonians vs. Macedonian Slavs
Dear Dionyziz, you claim that you would allow for Macedonians to call themselves as they like but that for the sake of clarity, they should call themselves Macedonian Slavs. Have you considered the following two possibilities: 1. The present article "Macedonian Slavs" could also be titled "Macedonians (nationality)" and all articles that contain the different applications of the term "Macedonians" would have modifiers such as "nation", "geographic" or "Ancient" to make distinction; 2. The term "Macedonian Slavs" is not clear on its own because of all the Slavic people living in the region who do not consider themselves as Macedonians and because the Slavic nature of its own is disputed. In addition, I would like to underline that research has shown that the use of the term "Macedonians" in international relations as well as on the web refers to "People X" in most of the cases whereas the term "Macedonian Slavs" is outdated as of 2001. For more information, consider the various sources displayed on the talk page for the appropriate article. Clarity is, therefore, an argument that needs to be reconsidered. Thank you for your attention. Ivica83 12:30, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Hello Ivica83. I can see your point when you say that the article "Macedonian Slavs" could also be titled "Macedonians (nationality)" for clarity. This is an interesting PoV, and you are right to say that the term "Macedonians" usually refers to "People X" in most of the cases. However, at the poll, as you can see by my arguments I am simply voting against the will of several Wikipedia contributors for the article to be renamed to "Macedonians". The current article about Macedonians is a really nice article IMHO with more or less a NPOV and shouldn't be replaced by an article about Macedonians in terms of people X; instead, it should stay as-is to clearly show the propaganda by all sides regarding the Macedonian matter. Instead of the article being named Macedonian Slavs, it could as well be renamed to Macedonians (nationality); I am simply against it being renamed to Macedonians. I have now added a comment at the comments section making this clear. --dionyziz 15:39, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC).
POLL
There is a poll in the talk page of Macedonian Slavs article here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonian_Slavs#The_poll
Some people are lobbying for changing the article's name to Macedonian without any qualifier. As it seems, a number of these people come from the Macedonian/Macedonian Slav wikipedia project. It seemed only fair to attract the attention of people possibly from the other side of the story. I hope that this message is of interest to you, if not please accept my apologies. Dstork 02:35, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)Newcomer 05:45, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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