Talk:Stateside Puerto Ricans

An earlier version of this entry appeared as the introduction to my, Angelo Falcón, Atlas of Stateside Puerto Ricans (Washington, DC: Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration, 2004), which is not copyrighted.

This was submitted as part of the resolution of the problem of the "Puerto Rican" and "Portorican" entries that it was suggested should be merged. The two entries are too much of a mess to accomplish this easily, so I thought this might be an easier solution.Prpolicy 08:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Nations with larger exile populations than native

The entry, as it reads now, says:

To give a sense of the scale of this Puerto Rican demographic development, the only comparable situation would be that of the Irish, which is so atypical that it underscores the uniqueness of the Puerto Rican case. As a result of the catastrophic potato famine of the 19th century and other developments, today the Irish-American population is close to 6 times (594.7 percent) that of the combined populations of Ireland and Northern Ireland. (Census Bureau 2004b).

I can add another example from the Demographics of Cape Verde. The population of the actual Republic of Cape Verde is around 420,000, yet according to that article, this is little more than a third of the worldwide Cape Verdean population.

That's just the one example I'm familiar with. I do not doubt that more such examples could be easily found with some research, which makes this claim of uniqueness hard to entertain. Sacundim 08:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Response: This Article was in reference to the U.S. and not Worldwide

The only problem with your comment is that this article is only making reference to migrations to the United States, not worldwide. What you are discussing is a whole other question that should probably be the subject of a separate article. Prpolicy 13:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

That's true. Although it seems like there are Pacific Islander American communities that outnumber the island they come from, but I'm not sure. Also aren't all Puerto Ricans "in the United States?" (I curiously read someone once complain about Puerto Ricans in connection with complaints about illegal immigration. Someone informed him Puerto Rico is a US Commonwealth, as such there are no "illegal Puerto Rican immigrants" in the way he meant, and he was quite embarrassed)--T. Anthony 08:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Gallos Marruecos

I have heard some people call stateside puertoricans Gallos Marruecos, but I do not know what they mean by that.

I never heard that reference. Isn't Marruecos Spanish for Morocco? Prpolicy 03:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is, but I checked again and it was more of a joke or insult among some people from the island. A "gallo marrueco" is a fighting cock that doesn't fight very well.

I think the joke means that third generation Puertoricans or people who claim to be puertorican but have never been to the island that live in the United States aren't very puertorican when you think about it.

Kinda confusing. -- signed by anon IP

Marruecos is another spelling for the Spanish slang "Morochos", also the term is strongly used in the Mexican immigrant community. Oddly, the term came from medieval Spanish spoken back in Spain during the 16th century to mean a Moor ( an "Arabic" person from Morocco or North Africa, whom were darker-looking than European spaniards and are primarily Muslims, the religion went into extinction by the Spanish Inquisition to do away with non-Catholic Christian minorities). The new meaning of "marrueco/morocho" means an underclass element, born and raised in America but not assimilated, treated like "dark people" among white Anglos and descendants of rural peasants whom had to leave their homeland long ago for prosperity not yet fully acheived. I live in southern Cal. where the main Hispanic group are Mexicans, but Central and South Americans as well, and even Cubans and Puerto Ricans reside in the west coast. I've knew the fastest-growing Puerto Rican (and Cuban American) community is actually Palm Desert and Palm Springs, Cal. probably they became more upper-middle class or followed the path of other ethnic "white" groups known to live in the Coachella Valley Cal. in high numbers. (Irish, German, Italian, Polish, Jewish and Armenians). But to be Puerto Rican in the US, even they are born/raised in America, they aren't treated fairly and disadvantaged from illegal subliminal acts of racial/ethnic discrimination, because they are "Hispanics"/"Latinos" and the often exagerated myth of Puerto Ricans, are "black people" but not all have African ancestry. 63.3.14.129 22:39, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Quality scale in project template

It was set to "A". Without getting into my own comments about it, this is incorrect because "B" is usually the highest quality given to an article without Peer-review or QA/FA evaluation. This article has not been subjected to any formal review, and hence setting it to "A" is highly unusual and frowned upon. Please do not restore to A until a formal review process determines that is indeed A level.

That said, this article suffers from a lack of sources, a lot of original research, and a certain lack of encyclopedic voice that make it a rather bad quality article by wikipedia policy and guidelines. Only reason I give it a B instead of a Start is because it is an extensive article, and some of the content is good. This article needs a good fix up, specially because of its importance to the project. Thanks!--Cerejota 07:31, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

!What?! Puerto Ricans a separate race?!

Puerto Ricans are not a separate race and this is as racist as saying the Jewish, or any other group from a country are such just because they come from that country. In Puerto Rico the breakdown is as follows: white (mostly Spanish origin) 80.5%, black 8%, Amerindian 0.4%, Asian 0.2%, mixed and other 10.9% [[1]] "Referencing "The CIA World Fact Book" The OFFICIAL Puerto Rican Census and the OFFICIAL United States census for the Puerto Ricans in the U.S. recognizes them NOT as a separate race, but either as a White Hispanic, Black Hispanic, Native American Hispanic or Asian Hispanic. This should be corrected as soon as possible to avoid being targeted by hate groups. Isolating Puerto Ricans as a separate race is outrageous just because their primary language is Spanish, (only in Puerto Rico at that)or because their culture is different (mainly in Puerto Rico). Just about everyone who migrated to the continental U.S. spoke a different language and had different customs in their home countries. To single out Puerto Ricans or just Spanish speakers is pure discrimination.70.5.241.54 23:32, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Puerto Rican Labour Migration

Hi all! I am a student at the University of Toronto, and as a part of the term project, my group, Latin America, are to add or edited existing pages on Wikipedia. My interest in the Puerto Rican Diaspora, has allowed me to focus on Puerto Rican Migration to the United States, the grander scheme being typically labour migration. I thought this posting could be of swome value to the article. If there are any suggestions or concerns, could you please let me know before deleting it. Thank you!--domenicdemasi (talk) 21:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)