User talk:Oren neu dag

WELCOME ON MY TALK PAGE!
Leave me message · My archive

Just a Question

Just a question...where did you find my userpage? That's the only way to get to that joke page, I think....–Sidious1701_{(talk • email • todo)} 15:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was through the new userboxes page. Oren neu dag 17:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

African American Flag

I'm pretty sure that the flag that you uploaded and was linked into the Pan-African flag was designed originally by American artist David Hammons. You may want to note that. --Knulclunk 03:04, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I mentioned it in the image's page. Oren neu dag 16:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgarian flag

This flag that you submit is a WAR flag not a National flag. The bulgarian NATIONAL flag from 1878 to 1946 and from 1990 is identical. Please do not take back war flag --Scroch 10:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hello, Oren. May I ask that you remove the comment saying that anti- and post- Zionists are fascists in your opinion? To me, including that statement doesn't seem like it can be useful for the project, and the natural consequence of including it is that certain people will be offended. It just adds friction without much benefit. See also Wikipedia:User page#What may I not have on my user page?. Kol tuv, nadav (talk) 02:20, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ahalan Nadav! concerning your request i have a small matter to adress. it was my understanding that whatever is written in the user page is the reflection of the user's worldview and that as such it doesn't contradict Wikipedia's rule that all things written in the article zone must be NPOV, and that other things written outside the article area can contain personal POV. if i'm wrong here please correct me and i'll remove immediatley all things concerning my worldview from my user page.

Oren neu dag 02:36, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You understood correctly. Separately from that though, there is also a guideline for userpage content (WP:USER). It says that certain POV statements (what it calls "polemical statements") should be avoided on user pages. The reasoning for this is that user pages are there to make it easier to work with other editors in building the encyclopedia. nadav (talk) 03:08, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To make my userpage less "polemic" I'll change it to a more subtle and indicative instead of the forward way it was 'till now. Oren neu dag 03:16, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reducing the "polemicity" :) Best, nadav (talk) 03:42, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

image SPQR flag

I haven't seen any activity on the deletion request page - but I recommend against removing the AFD tag, please let an administrator make the decision to do that. MattHucke ^(t) 00:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re IAF SVG

No prob for the SVG. I'm just learning how to use inksvape (an SVG editing program), and the lion in Image:Lionflag.PNG looks pretty difficult, so for now, I'll have to hold off. But maybe soon with some more experience I'll give it a try. מועדים לשמחה! -Reuvenk_{T C} 07:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Lion Flag

Delete the layer which contains the reference raster image (lionflag.PNG) and try uploading. Wikimedia does not allow embedded raster graphics. Your problem should be solved then. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I Don't now hot to do that Oren neu dag 12:50, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have you traced your svg drawing from the old flag? =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:56, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess so... Oren neu dag 13:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Select the image and delete it. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:40, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again... i don't know how. Oren neu dag 14:00, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My gmail id is nichalp.wiki. Mail it across. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

you can just download it from the site at image:Lionflag.PNG and image:lionflag.svg, and edit it on your own computer. Oren neu dag 14:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, I need the full file. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any full file, only those two files mentioned above... Oren neu dag 14:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mail them. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

HERE is some HELP

to explain you where the problem with your file is i need to explain you first the diference between a bitmap image( jpg, tiff, png, bit) and a vector graphic (ai, svg, crl) Bitmap graphics are formed by a serie of color swuares called pixels, this squares change in size and consentration acording to the resolution of the image but they are always a defined number of squares. Vector graphics on the other hand are constructed images formed with points , the lines conecting them and the areas they form. in resume a vector graphoc file is nothing more that a group of coordinates and matematical relationships between points. The main advantage of vector grpahics is that each time the image is shown, the computer literally constructs the image new, and can do so in every size desired. while a bitmap has a limit of size.

now it is posible to have one kind of file inside another one, this is called embedded files. still a bitmap remais being so even if inside an svg, and therefor is not as usefullas a pure svg.

to really convert a file into a svg one should rebuild the whole image. piece by piece. i will show you with your flag what i mean:

1.- you open the flag.png with the vector program , i use adobe ilustrator: image 2.- once your base image is ther you start building up. in this case you make rectangles as big as the flag colors:image 3.- you will end with 3 squares (with black borders in the image) one white as big as the flag, and 2 smaller, one red and one green. remember in vector graphics objects ( points lines, areas) are one above the other, so that if in the same place some would cover the ones below them. in this case both colors are above the white so that at the end the only visible white will be in the midle.image 4.- we come to the lion, there are 2 methods to do this figures, one of the is from the inside out, that is to understand the yellow as area and the black as line. still vector graphic lines have always the same width along the line and are not really realisic in this kind of image. the second method outside in, understands the yellow as areas above a black area and is more precise. first you must retrace the outline of the lion image to create a single black figure:image then you must do the same with every yellow area of the lion, first an outline image that you transform in area. becouse the yellow areas are above the black siluete they cover the right aread forming the lion body:image 5.- the eyes and mouth as well of the few spot on the body are black areas on top of the yellow areas. so that at the end it would look like this:image 6.- now that you have all parts, you DELETE the reference picture so that there are no bitmaps inside the mage and save the file as svg. the file should this way contain only what you draw, that is only vectors. after uplaoding it, it looks like thi:

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! ====>>>> Oren neu dag 08:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MPD

Hi, Oren neu tag. Your userboxes suggest you are a monarchist but also a social democrat, a zionist but also a citizen of the world, a committed advocate of democracy but also a supporter of the Pahlavi dynasty -- how many persons are you?... Shalom. -The Gnome (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, why does it have to be contradicting?

i'm a monarchist cause i know that this will unify my people, and i'm a social-democrat cause i believe in the State's responsibility to assist the poor and the weak in the society (Scandinavia is a good example of monarchy with social democrat reality).
I'm a zionist cause i care for my people and i wish i could help it, but if at the same time i can both care for my people and care for the world (i.e. by inventing invention that will help to protect my ppl and at the same time the world) - what's wrong with that?
I'm a committed advocate of democracy and i'm also a supporter of the Pahlavi dynasty cause the ayatullah's regime in iran is anything but a democratic one, and the rule of a future pahlavi shah can be and will be a democratic one.

so to sum it all up: i'm not a contradictory man at all. Oren neu dag (talk) 12:00, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. So -

You're actually a supporter of decorative monarchy, of a monarchy that's there for ceremonial and symbolic purposes, and to attract tourists. This is quite compatible with democracy actually. I would guess that you're not a supporter of the other kind of monarchy. (Modern Scandinavian monarchy is vastly different from Saudi monarchy.)
I was under the impression that Zionism was another nationalism. And nationalism stands in opposition to universal principles like the ones you listed. But if Zionism is not nationalism (if, for example, a Zionist can support the rights of an Arab equally forcibly as the rights of a Jew), then my understanding is wrong.
I take it that the mullahs' regime in Iran and the regal regime of the Pahlevis are not the only options for Iranian governance. Unless I'm mistaken there is this thing called democracy. (Where would social democrats be without the democrat part?) So, preferring the Shah over the Ayatollah is one thing; preferring the Pahlevi dynasty over all the other alternatives is quite another. I don't recall the Shah's reign being a benign one, like it is in Scandinavia. Shalom. -The Gnome (talk) 21:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of Arms

Hi. Do you have a link to this symbol of the WHINSEC? I cannot find it on the webpage of the institute.Ultramarine (talk) 06:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yes, WHISC. Oren neu dag (talk) 06:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no link there. Exactly what webpage adress did you get the symbol from? Ultramarine (talk) 06:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i was just surfing in wikicommons and i found it. Oren neu dag (talk) 06:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the Institute's webpage there is another symbol used and not this one. If not a WP:RS is given for that this symbol is real, then it should be removed.Ultramarine (talk) 06:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I unintentionally found it on wikicommons, and if u want to know more about the reliability of its sources than u should ask the the guy that uploaded it to wikicommons. if it needs to be deleted it's fine by me - i was just trying to be useful. Oren neu dag (talk) 06:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I thought that you had uploaded it. My mistake.Ultramarine (talk) 06:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Oren neu dag! Thanks for sharing your poem. I understand how painful a history (and present) of dispossession, oppression and insecurity can be. I hope you can too. What I mean by that is that the waking nightmare endured by Jews ended over 60 years ago. Our nightmare (as Palestinians) has been ongoing for 60 years now. Nevertheless, when the prison walls come down, I'd be happy to dance with you under the olive tree. Tiamut 10:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to something you left on my talk page

I am not Palestinian nor am I Jewish, nor am I anti-semitic. On my wiki page it states I support the liberation of Palestine --- how does that make me Palestinian? Why are you surprised that I have "Jews" (many of the "Jews" on my page are actually Atheists) on page? Can people who support the liberation of Palestine ultimately be anti-Semitic? You make no sense. --W123 (talk) 22:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]