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Barnstar

Just wanted to give you something to mark your hard work and to balance all the personal attacks. Thanks for all the hard work. Feel free to fiddle with the format and display it with pride. Guettarda 17:16, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You only copied part of the text. You can alter the right/left command if you want it somewhere else on the page. Guettarda 18:01, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

List of notable cardinals

There is absolutely no reason for the only list of cardinals on Wikipedia to be of living cardinals,or for there not to be a list of distinguished past cardinals.--Louis E./le@put.com/12.144.5.2 18:40, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

OK,better have List of deceased cardinals than nothing.However,I don't think it should include every deceased cardinal,only particularly important ones...not sure how best to convey that.The place for a listing of every cardinal ever is in the Cardinals Category,assuming it's added to every cardinal's bio.--Louis E./12.144.5.2 01:59, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Abortion

Sigh. Maybe it's time to get the admins involved. - Jersyko 01:19, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC) Please stop your pattern of harassment. You have been dogposting me for days. Your most recent violation of Wikipedia was to change my words on a Talk page. He follows me (that is called stalking or cyberstalking) and makes edits solely for the purpose of harassment.

Pointing out violations of the law is not harassment, nor it is threatening. I am a Florida resident, and protected by the laws of my state. Squeakbox my not be in Florida, but his behavior remains in violation, and he is a Cyberstalker.

In Florida Statutes 784.048(1)(d), Florida has now (October 2003) defined the crime of "Cyberstalking".

784.048 Stalking; definitions; penalties.--

(1) As used in this section, the term:


(a) "Harass" means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.

(b) "Course of conduct" means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of "course of conduct." Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests.


(c) "Credible threat" means a threat made with the intent to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety. The threat must be against the life of, or a threat to cause bodily injury to, a person.


(d) "Cyberstalk" means to engage in a course of conduct to communicate, or to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through the use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a specific person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serving no legitimate purpose.

(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(N.B. 775.082 (4) A person who has been convicted of a designated misdemeanor may be sentenced as follows: (a) For a misdemeanor of the first degree, by a definite term of imprisonment not exceeding 1 year;

(3) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury of the person, or the person's child, sibling, spouse, parent, or dependent, commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


(4) Any person who, after an injunction for protection against repeat violence or dating violence pursuant to s. 784.046, or an injunction for protection against domestic violence pursuant to s. 741.30, or after any other court-imposed prohibition of conduct toward the subject person or that person's property, knowingly, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


(5) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks a minor under 16 years of age commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(6) Any law enforcement officer may arrest, without a warrant, any person he or she has probable cause to believe has violated the provisions of this section.

Signed ==> Agwiii 17:31, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

Not that you were particularly worried about it, but Agwiii's claim that you are guilty of any crime is patently ridiculous. I know he (dubiously) claims to be some kind of law student or professor or such, but I'm the real deal, and you certainly haven't done anything illegal. I recommend ignoring his claims as there is no possible way he can substantiate anything. - Jersyko 15:21, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

I've never heard of the group, but they appear to be somewhat legitimate. It is difficult to say they are a fully legit organization, however, when half of their leadership team is made up of 20 something "freelance writers." He appears to be one of the group's main leaders. Anyway, it seems our friend has been using Wikipedia not only to advance his abortion agenda, but also to advance the cause of his organization by raising awareness (to put it mildly) of "cyberstalking." - Jersyko 04:20, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

Agwiii

Why does none of this surprise me? It was also pretty obvious that few if any of the claims he made about himself on his User page were true. He seems to have disappeared now, at least in that guise. It shouldn't be too difficult to spot him again... Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:39, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes, almost no doubt at all. Peculiar that he should use a pseudonym here, then use it on the Net in such a way as to give away his identity. But then he didn't seem any brighter than he was self-controlled. I'm astonished that his qualifications are what he claimed, though — and his employers should be even more worried... Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:07, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

RfC page move

I took the liberty of moving Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User:RexJudicata to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/RexJudicata, since the later follows the naming convention of the other pages on RFC (and this also turned the red link you added on WP:RFC into a blue link). --cesarb 21:45, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

you're welcome

You're welcome! Cute, cute animals by the way. Antandrus 18:10, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Maras

Who is trying to intimidate you? Arbitration is a diplomatic approach, something you obviously could care less about. I put that in because I know I'm not going to be able reach a compromise with someone like you. I've given you my sources, lets's see yours. You don't have a right to take out facts that you don't want. Would you like it if someone just randomly deleted information you researched, and adds relevance to the article? probably not, so think about it. LibraryLion

I have not been vandalizing your page. I never engage in that sort of thing, so please don't accuse me of it. Back to the article, what I want is one paragraph that lists specific documented crimes. The MS-13 members were convicted of the rapes, so this isn't some 'word-of-mouth' type crime. The other crimes in the article are police documented. Now if you want to counterbalance the article, you find information perhaps on MS-13 members who say there is bad in every group, and these crimes are indicitive of what MS-13 is about. But you don't delete what is factual. Yes not every little fact of everything needs to be in every article written, sometimes you can be deluged with facts, but I feel these specific crimes give an indication to the reader of how dangerous some (stressing some, not all) MS-13 members can be. So this paragraph I want kept in. I should specify it's the one paragraph that begins "The gang is quite brutal....", (this perhaps should be reworded to "A few gang members are quite brutal....) The paragraph before this I did not write, so I don't know of its accuracy, so it can be left out. On a side note regarding the vandalism of your page, which vandalism is always inexcusable, you need be real careful what you delete, because some people rather than discuss and talk it over, will resort to this. For some, deleting their material is real personal and there is no common ground when dealing with them. I don't have this problem, because I generally want as much information as possible, and I always cite a source if correction something, but you on the other philosophical side, need to be cautious of this. Didn't mean to write this much on your home page, but in short, we can end it here if you agree to the one paragraph I cited to stay in. LibraryLi

My mistake, I meant to put my comments on this page originally. But calling what I wrote by mistake on wrong page "vandalism" is quite hyperbolic. Claims that I'm a vandal are about as reliable as finding WMD's in Iraq. Anyway, back to article, it's the paragraph that includes the rapes of the two teen girls. the bus shootings, and antother crime was listed I believe. I don't think it matters where these crimes were committed per se, and really I don't think further documented crimes are necessary unless one is going to greatly expand this article. I've noticed in your comments you seem to have a real anti-American slant that really shows through. Why does it matter that the crimes were committed in the U.S.?, crime is crime. Not sure what this is about, but it certainly diminishes your viewpoints, and makes your editing have questionable motives. LibraryLion

Stray Dog War

You might enjoy the article on The Dog Tax War, it's true also. ping 10:50, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

rv personal attack

I am trying to find users who will help me determine a NPOV aproach in the article. Lots of users I asked to join in refused because article was "too contraversial". I alone cannot declare what is POV and what isnt. I need an objective view. --Cool Cat My Talk 05:24, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Copyvio images

Done. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:49, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Solana/Cumbey et. al.

I would be interested in assisting you with your RfC in this matter. Please contact me as shown at my talk page. KC9CQJ 10:50, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No, Cumbey didn't request a reversion. I did because it was premature of me to work on your RfC without your knowledge and I didn't have a grasp of the evidence at hand. Now I do have an accurate picture of what's going on, and your permission, and now I'm willing to help out :-) KC9CQJ 09:03, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
In addition, should the RfC fail to gain attention or solve the problem, I'm willing to bet that ArbCom should be our next step. You might want to withdraw the request for mediation at this point in time, until we see what happens. KC9CQJ 09:30, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I trust the above explanation is satisfactory. I was reverting the edits by User:Kc9cqj at User:Kc9cqj's request. I have since explained to that user how to make reversions themselves. - Mark 14:58, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Upon reflection, my edit summary wasn't very good at explaining what I was doing. In future, I'll try to be clearer to avoid such confusion. - Mark 15:06, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Do you have IRC or AOL IM? We need to talk 'face to face'. KC9CQJ 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You have e-mail at your hotmail(dot)com address. KC9CQJ 21:04, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Please review the RfC. Cumbey has been blocked for 24 hours following her posted comments for personal attacks on you and legal threats. If you have questions, please contact me ASAP. KC9CQJ 06:19, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Let's de-esclate this for the moment. I feel that we are on the brink of solving all issues at hand; ending all the vandalism, the anonymous IP's editing Solana, and the bad blood. Take a break for a few days from worrying about this - my real gut feeling is that this is all a huge misunderstanding, and I need a day or so to follow up on every angle that I've worked in the last 24 hours. KC9CQJ 08:36, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Um, yeah. Well. No real following up on every angle since someone hasn't responded to my queries for information as of yet. How's it going? I was on wikivacation for a few days. KC9CQJ 07:58, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Saudi Arabia

You reverted a vandal recently. When doing so please don't forget to look at other contributions of the editor. This one turned out to be quite prolific. In addition to vandalizing, he created a bunch of nonsense pages as well (I deleted them already). Mikkalai 18:11, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

War of the Stray Dog

A little to coincidental for my reckoning. You were looking at my past contributions and trying to discredit what else I wrote. Your own words for recommending the article for deletion "is this true?" imply that I somehow made up this article, and didn't do any research on it. This is quite an insult to anyone contributing information. If you would have just taken some time to yourself to verify it yourself, then you wouldn't have recklessly recommended it for deletion, especially given the fact it is a true. If you think it needs deletion because of a lack of information, I can accept, but that wasn't your stated reason. LibraryLion Yes your comments make sense but I think people would have come upon it anyway and made improvements. I don't claim to be good technical writer, I'm just a researcher, so I don't mind how anyone eidts information I add. My impression, maybe incorrect, was the vfd process is more for aricles with dubious facts, or facts that can't be verifed. I actually stumbled on this article reading a book on word and phrase origins. I have no idea why the author of the book put this obscure little piece of history in this type book, because he makes no reference to any new word or phrase that came out of this war. LibraryLion

Don't understand

The message you left on my talk --Mista-X 17:11, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Allende

Well, he's gone now. Because I'd been reverting him y'day -- thus an involved party -- I wasn't sure whether I could block him or not. I need to read up on my 3RR protocols. Hajor 21:49, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think he'll get tired before I do. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 01:25, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Javier Madariaga

What's the deal with that name? You refer to it as "fictional". --Tony Sidaway|Talk 10:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Boddhi

Minor edit. Changed "vandalsie" into "vandalise". Like your dogs. My dog was poisoned in Santa Fe, near Granada, Spain. He too liked living in a van. Keep up the good work.--El.tula 17:31, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Salamanca, Madrid and Universities

Hi! Somewhere in the Madrid article, you said "Madrid is the largest hub in Spain for university life, though the academic centre is in Salamanca". I have been living in Madrid for all my life (and going to a Madrilenian university for 6 years) and I've never heard about Salamanca being the academic centre of Spanish universities. Are you sure about that? Perhaps I'm wrong and I'm just a bit unculturate :) Sarg 15:45, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • I think Salamanca is by far the oldest in Spain. It is also one of the oldest of Europe. I have heard several times that Salamanca was the academic centre of Spanish universities when they were controlled by the Church, but nowadays each university has its own politics and rules. As far as I know, there is no organism with power over all of them (well, barring the government!). But, again, I might be utterly wrong :) Let's see if someone with more data posts at the talk page! Sarg 16:51, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Cumbey Returns

Hi. I just went onto hierarchypedia and checked the recent changes. To my surprise there were a few (there are usualy none). It says that it is User:SqueakBox, but I believe it to be none other than Mrs. Cumbey. On your user page it says "Englishman living in Honduras. 42." On one of the IP's it says "Love that pot" and on another it simply says "Fuck".

I propose that we use this as evidence for another longer ban of Cumbey from Wikipedia if possible, and I will also permenantly ban her from Hierarchypedia. You can view the pages in question here: http://www.hierarchypedia.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Recentchanges

She is obviously a crazy mofo. One of those people who go crazy if you don't agree with them.

--Hierarchypedia 21:38, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply

Thanks for signing up. The article is fine. I will upload the wikified one at some point though. The IP is from the US, and since it included the usual accusation of you being a pot lover I think we know who it is. Where should I go to post about continuing Cumbey vandalism and abuse? --Hierarchypedia 21:48, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply

I think it is best to leave her alone, as you suggested. I have been accused of being a member of Bohemian Grove (she really means Bohemian Club). This is ridiculous, as I have never been to California. --Hierarchypedia 22:55, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reply

Ok. Constance says on her blog that she would like to end the fiasco. I think it would be a good idea not to contact her any more. Here's an interesting connection I just found:

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Dalyell.jpg

Harry Truman to Tam Dalyell. I have never seen such a close relation between an "American" and a Brit, 6th cousins. The nearest is Bush to Churchill - 9th cousins that I know of. I am also going to look at the Central American Presidents a bit more as well. There is one who has ancestor from America, which may have interesting connections. I would like to look at the Sandistas too, and maybe some drug kingpins, but that would be difficult. What country is it you live in? --Hierarchypedia 01:12, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Per your request

In addition to contacting me, please cease and desist all editing within the following articles: Javier Solana, Javier Solana Antichrist allegations, Constance E. Cumbey, and any other articles that center around this dispute until you have contacted me and I have given you further instructions and information.

Ok, well, let's see here. I asked you not to post to her blog, you didn't listen to me, I asked you to wait a few days to see what worked out, you didn't listen to me. Are you going to listen? You want to edit the article, and I'm asking for you to stop running around rampant, placing comments here and there, and allow this to cool off for a few days or so. If you're going to run around and accuse me of making the situation worse, that's fine, and I will withdraw. I asked BOTH users, you and Cumbey, to stop editing and baiting each other into arguments, because that's what you're doing right now. You are both right - and you are both wrong. I've generated an entire timeline of this dispute, I've had outside parties read the entire history, and they all mainly agree that this is the case. Will you please just stop long enough for me to explain???? KC9CQJ 15:46, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Abortion 2

Why do you keep deleting what the Bible says on abortion? User:Big Hurt

Hi SqueakBox, I have left a message at Talk:Abortion relating to the dispute there. Rje 22:29, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

Flaky Wiki

In your defense, I see you removed the rude message from my User:talk page. I think Wikipedia is being flakey, and it may have appeared like I added that obnoxious "Wikipedia is Communism" line that vandal's seem fond of. I have nothing to do with than, but the page history seemed corrupted recently. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 22:17, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)

There is no Pope Benedict XVI. urgent attention please, --SqueakBox 22:21, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Um, he's Pope John Paul II's successor... so he is real... or is that not the point of your statement? Master Thief Garrett 23:49, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Squeak, I see you've been vacationing for the last ten days or so.  :) - Lucky 6.9 23:54, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What i meant is that the article had disappeared completely; the work of WC. See my User page. --SqueakBox 23:57, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC) (from Wikipedia:Vandalism in Progress)

(Re: your comments on entry on User:Wikipedia Is Communism! in Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress). There is a Pope Benedict XVI, whose papacy began on Tuesday, April 19, 2005. Pope Benedict XVI is his regnal name; his name is Joseph Ratzinger. Elected by the Papal conclave, 2005, he replaced the late Pope John Paul II (Karol Wojtyla) who died on April 2, 2005. Andrew pmk 23:36, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your reverts on Alleged Bible discrepancies entry

Why do you keep removing a link to the post-resurrection chronology? It's VERY relevant. Are you just pushing your POV, again?

Link: Some advocates of Biblical inerrancy have gone to great lengths to harmonize the four accounts [1],

-- Big Hurt

Reported YOU for 3 Revert Violation

You don't seem to understand the 3 Revert Violation. Read the Abortion entry carefully. YOU have broken the 3 revert violation!!!! Not me. -- Big Hurt

23-F

The dispute tag was there because there was a dispute, and remains a dispute over content. Someone moved part of the text and in the process either removed or moved elsewhere the reason for the dispute. But the article is littered with unsubstantiated POVs. FearÉIREANN 00:11, 2 May 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Hey Squeek,

never suggested that you acted in bad faith. Just that you did not know that there was a serious issue with that page. I had left a detailed note explaining the POV issues previously on the page. Basically the page tried to do two things: cover the attempted coup and do it in a page on one of the coup leaders. I pointed out that the page was POV and it was meant to be a biographical page but had two paragraphs on the person and the rest a POV account of the coup. Whomever responded moved the 23F still en bloc to a new page, with the dispute tag, but didn't bring along the talk page stuff outlining the problems. That was their error, not mine. I was rushing out the door when I saw your change and had not time to trace back the talk page stuff at that stage but there was a serious POV error with the page. It was far from the encyclopaedic standard one could expect in an encyclopaedia. FearÉIREANN 03:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Good work, mate. FearÉIREANN 03:26, 2 May 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Confusing signature

Hi. It seems the entire page is somehow fubar. I'm going to delete the duplicate violations section. - Tεxτurε 17:40, 2 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

delete

why do you keep deleteing what I put in for discussion on kofi "oil for food" annan?

dogs

I like dogs but I think cats are only good for dogs to chase!

My girlfriend agrees with you, otherwise we would have one, --SqueakBox 03:13, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Fidel Castro

Any reason to keep editing my Fidel Castro remarks? You a Castro accolyte? Tell me how Forbes saying he has 500 million dollars is not factual information worthy of being on the guy's bio? Give me a good reason why you keep reverting my xxxx, if you can't do that just please leave it the xxxx alone. Already asked once in the Fidel Castro talk page and nobody had the decency to answer why they keep reverting to that biased bull. Kapil 05:48, 5 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

KapilTagore and obscenities

I have also asked KapilTagore to apologize, however don't you think that Who do you think you are? might not be the best thing to attach to a comment asking someone who has wronged you for an apology. Its certainly not on the scale of what was said to you, but still. Also what are your objections to the Castro wealth ref? -JCarriker 17:06, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Let's try to continue to assume good faith until KapilTagore responds, he's apologized for using such language before and I know he responded postiviely to my request after I reverted his assretion that South America was a subcontinent rather than a continent. This may be as simple as case of wikistress and mistaken identiy combined, of course it may not. Either way it's I think it's best to wait for his response before drawing conclusions. -JCarriker 17:50, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Zapatero

Yep, you certainly do attract interesting characters. Guettarda 20:26, 5 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded! No problem, by the way, and yes, I have a cocker spaniel, called Jarvis. It made me laugh anyway :) Cheers. Anilocra 20:30, 5 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fidel Castro

I apologise Kapil 00:42, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fidel Castro editing

How is "intense and sometimes brutal political repression" a sentence that doesn't fit? Stop editing other people's stuff, it's an universal truth that Castro's Communist Cuba is politically repressive, and that this is where tensions with the US stem from. So you shouldn't remove it again, rather, explain why you're removing it before doing so. This is exactly the kinda thing I was talking about. Kapil 01:06, 6 May 2005 (UTC) Also, the word "shit" appears below your cat's picture. Don't fret as much about the word cunt, they're both Wikipedia articles.[reply]

Alright, sorry about calling you a Castro accolyte. Kapil 03:00, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vacation

I'm out on wikivacation for a few days. If you need anything drop me a line through my g-mail account. Should be back around May 10 or 11. KC9CQJ 05:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Naming convention

You seem like a pretty knowledgeable user (and have provided some objective edits on Cold War figures I might add -- good job) so I thought I'd point you to the question I asked on Ramon/Ramón Grau. J. Parker Stone 07:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

On vandalism, evidence is presented that he vandalized Adolf Hitler. I am pretty much in agreement with you that POV pushing is not the problem. He's rude, but (although my politics are very different from his) he's a pretty good editor most of the time. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 18:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There's a problem at the Nicaragua article... (not vandalism)

The problem is an anon. user. While not a vandal, it appears that this anon. user is making changes to the article that include non-English text, and in one case I had to revert the article because the edits by the anon. user had resulted in a major drop in the quality of the article. The first two times, I assumed that it could be vandalism or what it actually turned out to be: someone who appears to not to be native to the English language. I've already done two reverts, but the user keeps editing. The first two times I didn't know for certain what I was dealing with, but since it isn't vandalism, I don't think I can deal with the situation properly. There's a very good chance that there may be a language barrier problem, and I'm not very good when it comes to understanding Spanish. I've got some experience... but not enough. What I'm worried about is that this user will end up ruining the article in what they think is actually their attempts to fix it. I've already had one incident where I mistook somebody like this for a vandal (and I've kept the rebuke for another user on my talk page to remind me of this) and I'm afraid that somebody else might make the same mistake. --Chanting Fox 01:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to sign peace

Why have you deleted the piece of information I included yesterday to help you with your mistake (you know, that thing of It's or Its)? Everybody makes mistakes. Why cannot you have a more collaborative behavior? You cannot remove a contribution to your talk page only because you do not like it, specially if it can help other people with your same problem.

Let's give peace a chance. I can forgive you, but you must make an effort.

Warmest regards. Zapatancas 08:58, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, let's start again. Zapatancas 08:11, 14 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]


I think...

you're right. We should talk, because I found more evidence outside the current RfC. I think we ought to reinstate it. I'll give you a Skype when I get back from Chicago. KC9CQJ 21:17, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My latest comment at Javier Solana was not intended nor directed towards you, it was directed towards the other disputant. Sorry for the confusion. KC9CQJ 03:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm back. Let me know when a Skype session would be appropriate. I'm available tomorrow morning and Wednesday all day. KC9CQJ 22:31, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Squeak. I'm leaving my current company for greener pastures on the 8th, so I'm kind of riding softly on the Wiki for now. Please keep me informed of any major developments on CEC or the affiliated documentation and I'll be sure to add it to my list. Cheers and greets, KC9CQJ 08:50, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

ack

Thank you for certifying the RfC. -- Viajero 01:18, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again, I added it. I feel strongly that this kind of behaviour is completely unacceptable on Wikipedia; it poisons the atmosphere and should not be tolerated. If Kapil doesn't quickly shape up, I will bring him to the ArbCom. Anyway, now back to more creative and satisfying things, like writing articles. -- Viajero 01:34, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

thought you might like to see that. Nateji77 13:01, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Your attacks

Squeackbox - you can duplicate link spam as much as you like, I don't care, I DID notice the problem is unavoidable on articles like abortion. No productive work is possible on these articles as I have said noumerous times before, that is why I do not work on promotion articles like this any more. As for the removal of the links - that wasn't me. I have moved them to where they belong before, approximately two weeks ago, I think, that is true and probably your reason for bothering me with this. And at the time no one _NO ONE_ opposed. Calling me a vandal for this is a personal attack. Have a look at wikipedia policy and leave me alone.--Fenice 04:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have not attacked you in any way. Please explain your accusing me of having done so? --SqueakBox 04:48, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

See the talk page of abortion, you call this vandalism, and you mean me. And there is something else that just illustrates my point: Calling me "he" on the discussion page of abortion...Have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias, that might just widen your horizon a little. And do leave me alone with this issue. As I said, as far as I am concerned, all these pages are open to whoever wants to promote their views there, I will not be there to oppose. --Fenice 04:52, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you're talking about.

You wrote: "You apologised to me for your ridiculous assertion that I am a Cumbey sockpuppet. will you please also apologise to Cumbey, and take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Cumbey. Can you also tell me why you highlighted my contribs in your edit summary at Constamce Cumbey. Why are you continuing this senseless and aggressive campaign towards me?"

What? I don't know what you're talking about! I've had nothing to do with that article lately except to revert one or two edits. I think I reverted one of your edits because I disagreed with the removal of her published books (as I explained on the talk page); apart from that, I've had nothing to do with it. I did NOT "highlight your contribs" in my edit summary; I hit the revert button and DIDN'T MAKE an edit summary. I've said absolutely nothing on the Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Cumbey since my original comments, for which I apologized. I apologized to you; I saw no need to apologize to Cumbey as the allegation was made against you, not her. I realized my mistake and apologized to you. If you think I should apologize to Cumbey also, I have no ill feelings about doing so - it just hasn't occurred to me as necessary until now. As to your claim that I'm continuing "a senseless and aggressive campaign" towards you, I honestly dont know what you're talking about. Maybe someone has stolen my identity? I haven't looked yet - I'll do so now. David Cannon 20:11, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Odd behaviour

By removing your name from Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Cumbey (with an explanation that's difficult to follow, to say the least) you've left all those who supported you in a difficult position. By adding your support to the wholly spurious Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Whig, with no explanaion for your action, and despite all the comments made by others, you've divested yourself of yet another layer of credibility. What's going on? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:33, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fidel Castro and NPOV

To prevent a revert war going on, I was trying to include a more NPOV version. Seeing as how Grace Note keeps reverting to his/her version, I disputed the article's neutrality, seeing as how there's no data or reliable, neutral outside sources that call the literacy increase as "great" (and Grace Note hasn't provided one yet). What do you think? He/she's probably just gonna remove the NPOV tag, as it happened the first time. Kapil 01:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I just wrote in the discussion page the reasons why I think the article is biased. Am I completely oblivious to something or is this the proper procedure? Kapil 01:23, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Haile Selassie

I'm writing in regards to your withdrawn endorsement of the RfC and your comment that you agree with my styles generally but not how I am going about them. I'm not in favor of using styles. I don't think we should prefix "His Imperial Majesty" to the Haile Selassie article, though I do believe that this style should be contextualized within the page. HIM is a very important style to Rastafari, and deserves appropriate and neutral treatment. I would like to know, however, what it is that you disagree with as to my "going about" things, in order that perhaps we might work constructively together to make the coverage of Rastafarianism, Haile Selassie, Jah, etc. more complete and NPOV. Whig 01:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

When is a decision taken on the RfC? I'm getting tired of Mothperson's constant personal attacks against me and his false claims about my behaviour, and really will not have any of it if the RfC is merely a window in which users can attack me with impunity, with no users stepping in to give a neutral point of view. Your thoughts? Kapil 00:45, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Assume good faith

It's not helping that you support trolls -- who are not having a "consensus-building" discussion but it's clear to see are simply badmouthing anyone who disagrees with them and reverting their edits on sight -- and call decent editors "vandals". Perhaps you could try a more constructive approach to getting your POV represented? Grace Note 01:36, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am absolutely mystified that you are supporting Trey Stone's version of the page. Disgusted, in fact. He has opposed the consensus at every point, included his own POV, completely unsourced, and you support that? Why? Grace Note 01:44, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't realize known facts like the Cuban-American population and Castro's Sovietization needed to be sourced while items of disputable quality like literacy and healthcare don't. J. Parker Stone 06:43, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Then revert to the version I am supporting, but take out the smoking photo, okay? But don't replace it with the one of Castro that says "I am a nasty commie". And don't revert to Trey's POV, please. Grace Note 01:46, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The neutrality of the article was agreed upon in the discussion, if you have any objections discuss them before reverting the version we reached by consensus. Also, you're approaching your third revert. Lastly, any references to us as "rightwing trolls" or "rightwing povistas" don't help your case. Kapil 01:47, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

To SqueakBox: Please note how my answer was directed at Grace Note. The problem is I thought I was in the Fidel Castro discussion page and not your own talk page, this is where the confusion stemmed from. But do relax, I feel there's some kind of witch hunt at every single comment I make and I will not stand for it. Kapil 06:37, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Zapatero

I just noticed that the Zapatero was listed on RfC and I took a look at it. Whew. It needs a lot of work. I just copyedited the first two sections; I'll have a look at the rest later on. Reading the talk page, I saw that you have been having problems with Zapatancas. If he continues to be a PITA, an RfC might be in order. I realize preparing an RfC is time all of us would rather spend on more gratifying tasks, but I have done it now a few times and I can help you. An RfC obviously has no binding force to it, but sometimes it can be effective. All the best, -- Viajero | Talk 11:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Solana

Damn. They got one past us. And I thought everyone knew the new Antichrist is Zapatero. Heightened vigilance in future. Hajor 19:48, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry :-(

SqueakBox, all I can say is sorry for that Dalek edit. I appreciate you not making a large comment about irresponsible actions, etc, because as I'm sure you know I've been told quite a few times. I've since withdrawn my request for adminship. I'm now sending a personal apology to all those who've opposed the adminship because of my actions. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Davenies

I commented on this with the redirect. The article was basically an orphan that had almost no information. By moving it to the main city article, it should get more notice and has a better chance to get someone to provide more information so that it can become a better article. This also avoids another editor putting a VfD tag in there again and having another discussion about keeping the article or not. If you have more information feel free to add it. If you get it into better shape and move the text back, add a {{cleanup-school}} tag at the top so that others can help finish the cleanup. Vegaswikian 19:26, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ríos Montt article

Please don't get bent out of shape about Ríos Montt; it isn't worth it. Complaints about "reverting my material" aren't so helpful even though I understand your reaction. The best course is not to revert immediately, but simply to correct obvious errors and sort out the rest on the Talk page. There were, IMO, only a couple of major differences between the two versions, and I am sure we can iron those out. 172 knows a lot of about general history and political movements, and you are well-informed about contemporary politics, so the end result should be a great article. Cuídate, -- Viajero | Talk 12:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, I think you are taking the wrong attitude. Once you hit the "Submit" button, your edits are fair game for anyone. There is no point in taking a propreitary attitude about an article. It doesn't work here. And comments about 172's personality and ArbCom stuff are equally counterproductive. Anyone could have come along and edited that page; 172 or a newcomer. As I said above, the best (and IMO only) strategy is to fix the obvious errors and take the rest to the Talk page.
When I laid out the diffs several days ago, I thought you responded to all the points that concerned you, particuarly with regard to the intro, and that the changes were merged. If not, our only recourse is to repeat the process. I am going to archive the Talk page in a moment; let's start over with a clean slate. If you still have issues with the content, copy the text to the Talk page and we will discuss it, clause by clause if need be. This is the only way forward. Thanks, -- Viajero | Talk 10:50, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Automated Message?

I believe I received an automated(?) message from you. Perhaps you (SqueakBox) are a part of a Wikipedia welcoming committee?

If so, thank you for the welcome!

Also, I would like to note that it would have been nice for the message to have explained itself (i.e. where it came from). Thanks, Djbaniel 01:56, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

I got this welcoming message too -- I didn't have any problem with it. Thanks! WLight 04:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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My RFA

SqueakBox, thank you for your vote of confidence on my recent successful RFA, it was much appreciated. I will work to demonstrate that your trust was well-placed. Fawcett5 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Whoah

Thank you for such a warm welcome message! And for the links also. ;) I'll, for sure, have a great time here.

Crawling to the bed.... --Zogg 00:24, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

EyUp

Ta for the welcome. See you round. Nigosh 22:22, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Castro

Hey, I only just saw your comment of May 21 to me on Fidel Castro. Look, I'm sorry we had a few words that verged on the harsh. You didn't deserve that. I appreciate that you were working for the good, as I think you do around Wikipedia. Your point about Castro's smoking was entirely compelling. I thought the smoking picture was cool, but if the guy doesn't even smoke...! Happy editing and hope next time our paths cross, we do it with smiles. Grace Note 12:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Cyberstalker and CyberHarasser

You are not a deletionist, you are a Wikipedia obsessionist and vandal. You are writing lies about me and anything/one that I support. In your distorted view of the world, you think I have multiple identities. This is simply one of your lies. You are absolutely and completely not a notable person, although I am sure your sockpupets and sycophants will fly to your aid. Proudly and accurately written by Rex Judicata 13:02, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

It was CesarB and not me who pointed out your sockpuppetry. Being not notable is just how I want it. I don't write articles about myself or my activities at wikipedia. I have written no lies. Please don't remove my comments from now on or accuse me of vandalism or libel. It was you who impersonated me and threatened to see me deported to Florida, SqueakBox 15:24, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

User pages

Hi, I noticed on the now-deleted Grayson Walker article that you had linked from that page to a couple of user: pages. We don't link to user: pages from articles (in part because many people who take database copies only take the article space, but in general it's also just Not A Good Idea). Noel (talk) 05:40, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Request for Administrator mediation

There is an ongoing problem in the Mizrahi_Jew article (see Talk:Mizrahi_Jew) with user Jayjg (an Administrator) refusing to include elements into the article which have been proven with sources he had earlier demanded. This lead to nothing, as he doesn't care for the countless sources and evidence I provided, which can be seen by his continuing to dismiss the other side (which needs to be represented) as still being irrelevant. The fact that after sources and evidence he still finds it irrelevant is his POV. The article, as Jayjg edits it, removes any mention that some Mizrahim from Arab countries (whether many or few) espouse and promote "Arab Jewish" identity.

I have already asked for mediation from other administrators, but they say they haven't the time. I asked for mediation from one administrator that even blocked me (because of Jayjg and the problem at Mizrahi Jew) but when I wrote to the administrator asking him that he read the talk page to see why there was a problem, he said he had no time. I am begging an administrator to find the time!

Jayjg is unwilling to include the fact that some Mizrahim espouse "Arab Jewish" identity (which would ensure the article’s neutrality), noting that it does include references relating to Mizrahim that oppose “Arab Jewish” identity and discourse. He is intent on only presenting one side of the “Arab Jewish” discourse, while utterly discounting the other side, and at times outright inferring the other Mizrahim that are pro-“Arab Jewish” identity are wrong (which is not for him to decide and constitutes a POV) and in his utter bias also labels those other Mizrahim as a “phenomenon” for being Jews that identify as Arabs (which is his POV).

It has been made known to him, that despite many Mizrahim today not identifying as “Arab Jews” or espousing a revival of "Arab Jewish" identity, there are (as has been quoted to him in sources) a growing number of Mizrahi scholars and non-Mizrahi members of Israeli academia (and laymen) that support do, but because of modern Arab (ie. Palestinian) and Israeli (ie. Ashkenazi Jewry) political relations (stemming from the creation of the state of Israel) the idea is that it is impossible to be both Jewish and Arab at once (which is a European Jewry understanding, and as such a POV). Both sides must be addressed for neutrality.

To quote Yehudith Harel, an Israeli scholar, writer and peace activist. These are the phases I see Arab Jews as having gone through: First, coming to Israel, being discriminated against, looked down upon and humiliated because they were "Arab Jews" -- ie belonging to Arab culture and yet practicing Jews; trying their best to integrate in many ways, among others by "forgetting" and repressing and denying their Arab cultural roots, sometimes even turning against them by adopting "Ashkenazi" (quasi-Western and secular) ways of life and strong anti-Arab positions in order to differentiate themselves from the despised and feared "enemy".

This sentiment is shared by a growing minority, and as such must represented, or how can we say the article is neutral? I myself don’t mind indicating that they are in fact a minority within the Mizrahi community (for ethno-political reasons, espoused by the Ashkenazi institution running Israel, already mentioned above), but Jayjg opposes even this, which is the very reason this school of though is growing. And it's not a recent "phenomenon" as he insesitevely indicates and which I have also shown him;

To quote Prof. Sasson Somekh, Author, translator and researcher of Arabic literature. "We are Arabic Jews just as there are American Jews - it's a historical fact. But people did not use that definition, because the Israeli society didn't like it. I am not afraid to use it, and there are others like me, such as the author Shimon Balas or Prof. Yehuda Shenhav."

Al-Andalus 07:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC).


Rules that condone unethical behavior

If you review the recent behavior of Squeakbox, you will see he has stalked Rexjudicata on Wikipedia, and made changes to any page edited by Rexjudicata. He has claimed that Agwiii and Rexjudicata are the same person. They are not.

Squeakbox has written on the Parents Without Rights page that Grayson Walker has had his parental rights taken away by the court. This is not true. Beyond that, it would be impossible for Squeakbox -- in Honduras -- to have access to private records of a Florida family law case. The fact that he would write such a libel shows his intent is to harass and not contribute.

It is important to note that Squeakbox knows nothing of these topics, and the sole purpose of his changes have been to harass Rexjudicata. As Squeakbox is an "old" member of your clique (aka Wikipedia community), he rallied his friends for support and they joined him.

Your code of conduct notwithstanding, the fact remains that the behavior of Squeakbox is a violation of the Cyberstalking Laws of Florida, many other states, and a growing number of other countries. Your Wikipedia S.O.P. is in conflict with these laws, and that should give you pause. Why are your members allowed or even encouraged to break the laws in a growing area of International regulation?

If you can get past the fact that Squeakbox is "allowed" to make edits -- as are all Wikipedians -- and examine why and what he has been editing in his attack on Rexjudicata, you see that he has used your rules as a vehicle to harass Rexjudicata. The choice is yours -- ignore the stalking and harassing by claiming the rules permit Squeakbox's behavior -- or look at the unethical behavior of his stalking.

Consider what we call the ethics transparency test. Ask, "Could I give a clear explanation for the action, including an honest and transparent account of my motives, that would satisfy a fair and dispassionate moral judge?" Squeakbox's behavior fails this test.

Consider what we call the ethics Golden Rule test. Ask, "Would I like to be on the receiving end of this action and its potential consequences? Am I treating others the way I’d want to be treated?" Again, Squeakbox's behavior fails this test. If Rexjudicata had behaved as Squeakbox did, he would have gone to all of the substantive pages that Squeakbox edited, and made changes to them -- this did not happen. Instead, he posted his complaint about being cyberstalked and erased harassing comments made by Squeakbox on his page.

The choice is very clear. You may intervene and stop the unethical, stalking behavior of Squeakbox, or you can stand behind a technical interpretation of your rules, ignoring the fact that they permit unethical and illegal behavior. This is not about suggesting that Squeakbox or any other Wikipedian stalker be prosecuted, but about the fact that your rules are increasingly out of step with both ethics and laws. Philanthropists and investors are very careful about such issues.

Rex

Rex Judicata 08:00, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)


trolls and nuts

How do you manage to attract these sorts?  :) I won't criticise you for "feeding" them, but I wonder if in some cases it mightn't be better to just raise your "ignore" threshold a tad. Not that I can speak from personal experience - I have a habit of falling for trolls myself. Anyway, hope all is well with you in the world that really matters, and congrats on the job. Guettarda 15:36, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

trolls and nuts II

I was just going to say - you seem to attract all kinds of strange people. It might be helpful if you just delete my section on your talk-page ("your attacks"). It's been the second time someone tried to build on that in order to heat up a conflict.--Fenice 16:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)