Hi everybody. I was reading the news and I saw an article about Moninder Singh Pandher and Surender Koli (Indianserial killers). Well, on the article I read that they are Indians, so I came to their articles and their nationalities were not, so I wrote on the articles (( Indian serial killer )) respectively. Was it a mistake?.... Did I must edit the articles to it?. Second point. They killed little girls (most of them only babies), the Pandher's article doesn't say it and the Koli's article doesn't say it.... Do I must edit it? Thanks and forgive me if I committed a mistake.Ahmed987147 (talk) 00:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, You did not make a mistake, and thank you for helping us build an encyclopedia. This is exactly why we are here, and this is exactly why we invite anybody to edit. Please add any additional relevant facts that you are aware of to the articles. However, all facts are supposed to come from reliable sources, and are supposed to cite your sources. If you are a new editor, the exact details of how to cite your sources may be intimidating. You can often find a worked example within the article itself, or you can try to teach yourself how to do it. If it's just too hard, then add the fact anyway, and put the information about the source on the talk page of the article with a request for another editor to add it properly If you prefer not to edit the article yourself, place both the information and the source on the talk page, and ask for someone to edit the article. Thanks again. It's refreshing to get this type of question on the help desk. -Arch dude (talk) 00:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
An entry I created yesterday for 'Servcorp' has been deleted as per the deletion log below
06:32, 4 December 2007 Ocatecir (Talk | contribs) deleted "Servcorp" (Speedy deleted per (CSD G11), was blatant advertising, used only to promote someone or something. using TW)
Can you please advise why this is classed as blatant advertising when it is a company description and references other search terms found on Wikipedia such as 'serviced offices' and 'virtual offices'?
Well, something you might want to look at is WP:AB, which is an article that tells you how to write an article about yourself, or about a company you work for. Before you do this, you should know that it is strongly discouraged to make an article about yourself or a company you own or work in. This is so the articles have a neutral point of veiw, and you don't accidently yurn something into an article that tries to advertise something. ~ BellaSwan01:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image license
Hello, how do I go about getting another license added to the drop down list on the image upload form? There's currently two under Creative Commons, version 3.0 and version 3.0 Share Alike. What about version 2.0? Would it be possible for that to be added? Thanks. Redrocketboy01:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The best place to ask is at WP:MCQ, for details, they may know why it is not listed on the drop drop list, editors can still paste the tags {{Cc-by-sa-2.0|Attribution details}} or {{Cc-by-2.0|Attribution details}}, if the image falls under those licenses. see WP:TAG for instructions, Also as another upload option you may want to upload to Commons instead so that it can be used @ other Wiki project not just to the English version of Wikipedia. ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk06:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I added my eMail to my preferences just yesterday but no confirmation eMail arrives. I already clicked the "Send Confirmation Email" button twice, but still nothing comes. MarlithT/C03:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
an article was vandalized that erased content and formatting as well as obscene language, someone else erased the obscene language but did not use the undo function so the erased content and incorrect formatting remains, i tried to just undo the vandalizing edit but could not do it, is there an eaiser way to go two edits back other than reformatting and reinserting everything one by one?
This evening, I made an account to help edit a Wikipedia entry. This went fine. I tried to log in a little while later (< 1 hr) and the login would recognize the password I just set up. It's unlikely that I made the same typo twice when initially creating a password, but strange things can happen. So I clicked the email me my password button.
An hour later, and I have yet to receive the emailed password sent to my gmail account--although the initial email confirmation message arrived promptly after I first set up my user account. So I know that my user name is correctly associated with my email. I know my gmail is active and working because I just sent myself a test message.
Any suggestion of how to proceed? My user name is cmbarton and the linked email is <e-mail address removed>
OK, first, I've removed your email address because having it up on a page like this is (a) not good for your privacy, and (b) asking for spam. Second, it looks like you may have made a mistake not in the password, but in the User name - while there is a User:Cmbarton, their account was created in November 2006, and they have no edits to their name (the first letter of a user name or article title always ignores capitalisation). I would suggest looking at the edit history of the article you edited, to see if you can work out what user name you might have used. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And in case you don't know: The large majority of Wikipedia articles can be edited without having an account. Then the used IP address is credited for the edit instead of a username. Could this have happened with the edit you think was made with your account? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yay, thanks! Now that annoying banner is finally gone! :-D (Although I don't condemn the fundraising itself, but that green bar with the green people and especially those comments were just intrusive.) -- Mentifisto09:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You could start by reading Presentation and following links therefrom. If you mean a presentation where you are not physically present, see Screencast. From my college days, I recall a professor who advised students to "Tell 'em what you're gonna tell 'em; tell 'em; then tell 'em what you told 'em." The idea being to summarize your presentation both before and after you deliver the main body of details. I have no idea whether that is good advice, and see the disclaimers. --Teratornis (talk) 07:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alignment and structuring
Hi, Im having some problems structuring my work (on my user page), it jumps around the page. I think I need help on how to justify, center align (horizontally and vertically). If you can help can you also tellme how to add backrounds, please! Also different fonts. Thanks Fattyjwoods (talk) 07:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Everything about user pages is here: WP:EIW#User_p. Let us know if you can't find what you need in those links. I don't myself know how to do what you want, offhand anyway, because I opted for a very simple user page, just plain sections, lists, and links. --Teratornis (talk) 07:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
in need topic importance leadership with headings plz
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as such, we don't do your work for you. Additionally, this page is for getting help using Wikipedia; you may have more success at the Reference desk, which specialises in general knowledge questions. You may also like to read our article on Leadership. --Kateshortforbob10:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I heard wikipedia is going to be available for places with limited access to the internet in hard copy format (CD,DVD,...)
so can users "buy" or "recieve for free" a hard copy of wikipedia?
I need a programor some advice that will help me to design a family tree without having to fiddle around with formatting whose workings I anyway can't find explained anywhere on wikipedia. Thanks. Yehoishophot Oliver (talk) 14:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To me this came across as a question about something outside Wikipedia (for which the questioner is looking for an answer on Wikipedia). I think WP:RD/C or WP:RD/H (the reference desks for computing and humanities respectively) are the best place to ask this. - Mgm|(talk)19:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am trying to create a page for the organization "University Musical Society" but am unable to do so, as you can see from the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_musical_society. "University Musical Society" is the full name of our organization (it goes by no other name). For more information (and to ensure the validity of my request) please check out our website at www.ums.org. Why am I unable to create a page for this organization? —Preceding unsigned comment added by UniversityMusicalSociety (talk • contribs) 15:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The page University Musical Society already exists as a redirect to University Music Society. As there appear to be several organisations with a similar name it's somewhat unclear to me that UMS you refer to is going to be the UMS everyone thinks of when people talk about UMS. I strongly suspect someone from Australia may think of the QUMS or perhaps some other organisation. And similarly someone from the UK may think of the OUMS or some other organisation instead of your one, even if the full names of these organisation includes Queensland and Oxford respectively and yours is just UMS. There are probably other UMSes too. As such, it is probably best if you leave things as is and add an additional link in the disambig page to whatever page you create. I would suggest something like University Musical Society (University of Michigan) or University Musical Society (United States). You may want to read Wikipedia:Disambiguation for more information on disambigation pages. I also suggest you read WP:COI before starting any article on an organisation you apparently work for or are part of. Nil Einne (talk) 16:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
As above really. If you have any further questions about first pages, don't hesitate to ask me. I've had some experience adopting other users and I'd be quite happy to apply that knowledge here. — Rudgetcontributions16:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why have my changes been deleted on a page that I initiated?
Hi there
Just curious as to why some changes that I made to an article initiated by me have been changed.
The page in question is Legends of Classic Rock.
I had a list of all the episodes, that has been deleted.
Last week, I added links at the Corus owned affiliate stations - cjxy, cilq, cfgq, cjkr and ckdk - and these have also been removed.
Just wondering why so I don't make the same mistake again.
Well, the editor who made those changes (Ckatz) answered this with their edit summary: they felt the article contained excessive links and a non-encyclopedic list. (Note: you shouldn't be editing that article anyway, since you have a severe conflict of interest, as a Corus employee.) --Orange Mike | Talk16:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
When using Latex code, a new image is created, but this image "merges" in the text. I would like to know if it is possible to have this image in a standard image box.
[3] is probably what you need, then. I'm against spoofing the UI of Wikipedia so I'd like to know what it is for (perhaps a proper, saved and uploaded image might be better). To left-align it, change tright to tleft. x42bn6TalkMess19:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How do I put colour in my latex symbols? When trying \colour{red}test I get Failed to parse (unknown function "\colour"): {\displaystyle \colour{red}test}
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I just created a login account and spent 45 minutes looking at all the FAQs. Maybe I "can't see the forest for the trees?" I only want to create a new listing for a new business website with a brief description of the website.
I see all kinds of information on editing existing listings using "the sandbox". But how do you start a new listing or entry?
When I went to the sandbox, instead of a blank text box, it was full of jibberish.
New websites tend not to be suitable subjects because they do not have the number of visitors/users or the coverage to show it is notable. Quite often such entries are accused of being a promotional effort to direct traffic. It's best to avoid all that and wait until the site made a name for itself. - Mgm|(talk)19:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(added header) This doesn't appear to be a question about Wikipedia, which is what the Help Desk is for. You might get an answer at the Reference Desk, especially if you tell them which ALTA you mean. Algebraist19:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
calcite
how do you test for the presence of calcite in a rock sample?
Hi my fellow wiki's.
I currently edited a page and added a author whos well known in my small town. I want to make a page about him, but I can't seem to find out how. Please help me as he deserves credit! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natedogg sachs (talk • contribs) 20:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Graphs and distribution characteristics suddenly won't print correctly any more (for about past month...)
For example, under "Weibull Distribution", all of the same information is presented, but some sort of update has occurred such that printing the page generates a mess, whereas for at least the past couple of years, this worked without fail. It seems to apply to numerous distribution pages - it is always the sample curves, plus the boxed information about parameters, support, PDF, CDF, etc., that no longer print.
There appears to be nothing in the FAQ and I've searched on "print", but nothing seems to be mentioned. This is my first posting, so I'm not even sure how to find any answers any of you may offer, but I'll play with it. Anybody know what happened and how to print these pages moving forward? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.40.0.9 (talk) 21:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, there are lots of unrhymed poems which are neither free-verse nor prose-poems, such as the works of Homer, and Anglo-Saxon alliterative verse. Algebraist00:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Caught Vandalism
I caught some vandalism by 76.16.196.13 on the Jay Treaty's article. Is there any procedure for recommending an IP address be blocked because of vandalism???Thanks! Noneforall (talk) 23:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:AIV is the place for that, but it's very unlikely that any admin will block after a first offence. The normal approach is to just revert the edit and leave a warning on the user's talk page (which I have done). Algebraist23:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The template concerned is a season list one (Template:All Saints season 10 episode list). I have included it in the infobox for the episodes of All Saints but it is quite a long list and so, for reasons of neatness, I would like to make it collapse. I have tried adding "state=collapsed" to the template when i am including it in the infobox but it does nothing. Could you please tell me how to make it collapse? Thanks.Davido321 (talk) 00:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Davido321, could you provide a link to which article you added the template and also tell us where in the article you added it? Thanks, --Kudret abiTalk00:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can see, the code generating the title "Season 10 episodes" is part of Template:Infobox_Television_episode so the collapsible code probably needs to go into that template. Perhaps the episode list could be a table nested inside the infobox table, and it could be made to appear collapsed or expanded based on a parameter for the template? --Kudret abiTalk —Preceding comment was added at 01:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I am not sure what the question is, but it looks like you are trying to find out the changes made to the article Barry Sanders. For this you can click on the "history" tab on top of the page and view who made what changes. --Kudret abiTalk01:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I recently added a photo to an article, now text is squeezed between this image and an infobox, Ashford, New South Wales I would like to improve the appearance of the article, spacing works but I am sure there is a better way could someone direct me to an editing hints page, thanks --Matt (talk) 01:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You could change the image placement to put it on the right (below the info box) like this: [[Image:Ashford.JPG|thumb|right|The Main street of Ashford NSW]] or you could put it in the info box like this:
I hope this is the correct spot for asking a question
I cannot make any edits under my account name at all, due to some sort of blacklist for a URL I know nothing about. Can anybody help?Kitchawan (talk) 01:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am not clear what you are asking. You don't seem to be blocked at the moment. What is the error message that you are getting when you try to edit a page? Are you trying to edit without logging in, perhaps using an open proxy? (c.f. WP:PROXY). --Kudret abiTalk02:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You made an edit to post your question here and have made two article edits later so I guess you don't need help now. If you have a problem editing a specific page then please which it is. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Based on what you said, it seems you got hit by one of our spam filters. To help prevent the addition of disruptive spam links, certain external links are blacklisted, meaning nobody can save a page that contains the offending URL. As you've seen, however, this creates some problems when a page has a spam URL on it before the URL is blacklisted. When you get the error message, it *should* tell you which URL is causing the problem - all you have to do is go back to the editing window, find that URL, and delete it. Once all blacklisted links are removed from the page, you should be able to save your edits. WP:BLACKLIST can provide you with more information. Hersfold(t/a/c)02:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
random article options
I think this has been asked, but:
I specialize in geography. When I click random article, is there a way for me to filter only geography things coming through? I'd prefer not to have to click 10 times just to get to an article with relevant stuff I could do. S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s(Talk to Me)03:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there is (and I'm sure someone will be along promptly to correct me if I'm wrong). Even though it's one more step than if you could filter random in the desired manner, you can always click on random articles yourself in Category:Geography and its subcategories; maybe set the category as your homepage.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fuhghett is correct. The only guarantee you get with Special:Random is that you'll get an article and not a user or policy page. The only way you can change the results is by adding "/Namespace" to the end - for example, Special:Random/User will generate a random user page. I tried it with a subject and I got a disambiguation page that was completely unrelated. Sorry. Hersfold(t/a/c)03:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This question has come up before on the Help desk; try searching for previous discussions: Search Help desk for: random article from category. I remember trying to answer this question before, and not doing a very good job. This time I looked at the Editor's index, and I see an interesting entry under WP:EIW#Random:
I looked at the wikitext to see how the author generates random articles from a set. The method would be straightforward to adapt to another set of articles, but the template contains a hard-coded list of articles from which to select one randomly. Generating the list of articles would be somewhat tedious. I guess you would use Special:Export to generate a big list of page names from several categories; copy the list of page names to an external editor (i.e., just copy the titles, you don't need to actually export the page content to XML); sort the list of page names, remove duplicates, delete things that are not articles (such as things that start with namespace prefixes); do a big column edit to format the list of article titles the way the Middle-earth/Random-article page does; adjust the constant in the random number equation to account for the number of articles you have. Sounds like a bit of a chore, but completely straightforward. You could make it a subpage of Portal:Geography by analogy to the Portal:Middle-earth arrangement. --Teratornis (talk) 04:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Except that I don't especially like the hyphen in the subpage title: "Random-article". I would just call it "Random article". I might try making a page like this for Portal:Cycling because it looks like such a cool feature. --Teratornis (talk) 04:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Limit on number of times you can call a template?
I think I have exceeded the limit for the number of times I can call a template on this page:
But in the very next version when I added a large quantity of calls of Template:Museum to a completely different section, look what happened to Minnesota:
Minnesota was not changed from Version 1 to version 2, only more calls to Template:Museum were made before it.
Can anyone help me figure out exactly what is going on? Is this a bug or is this an intentional feature? What can I do about this? It was working out very well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Boldt (talk • contribs) 03:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Most people contribute under false names. You are allowed to use your real name. They can track you down by tracing the computer you are using so this is why you should avoid writing anything that you would be ashamed to see if your name was listed as the author. Congolese (talk) 07:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
free down load - Reg.
Dear Sir,
I want to down load wikipedia encylopedia. Any version is available for free down load?. Pl. inform me the details. How to down load and install.
A couple of notes: 1) Everything on Wikipedia is free. That's the whole point of the encyclopedia! 2) Wikipedia is really, really big; before downloading, make sure you have enough free space on your hard drive. I've heard some of the larger database downloads are over 100GB. Pyrospirit (talk·contribs) 05:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You can also use Google Calculator's wonderfully undocumented unit conversion feature, for example: 1 pound in kilograms =. Actually Google documents this somewhere, at least sketchily, but there aren't many clues on the largely blank Google search form that a sophisticated calculator is hiding right there. --Teratornis (talk) 17:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Page deletion because it was considered advertising
I want to add a page about Intellect publishing. It has been deleted as it said I was advertising the company. How have the company Future Publishing added
a page very similar to the one I tried to create and it still exists??
Melaniesharrison (talk) 10:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is absolutely the right place to ask that question. Deletion review is an option, yes; it is not a good place to ask questions, nor does it have a forum to do so. It's an all or nothing process. Melanie, please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. In short, the nature of Wikipedia means that you cannot make a convincing argument based on what other articles do or do not exist; because there is nothing stopping anyone from creating any article. Plenty of articles exist that probably should not. Equally, because articles must wait for someone who is interested in the subject to notice they are missing before they are created, a lot of articles do not exist that probably should. So just pointing out that an article on a similar subject exists does not prove that the article in question should also exist; it is quite possible that the other article should also be deleted but nobody has noticed it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I need to change the title of a page as the company name has now changed. How do I go about this? Also, if I change the name will the links to it still work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NatalieABC (talk • contribs) 12:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since you appear to be writing about your own company, I'd recommend against writing the article yourself. You would have a conflict of interest which may make the article appear as spam, whether that is your intention or not. If you go to Requested articles, experienced editors will research your company and determine if it's notable enough for an article. Hersfold(t/a/c)14:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Re Cottesloe band night - I marked this as prod yesterday (Dec 5) on the basis that, although I'm sure it's locally interesting, it doesn't appear to be notable enough for WP. On checking today, I find that the author of the article has removed the prod with no indication why. I've remarked it as prod, but rather than getting into a revert war, I'd appreciate an experienced editor to cast an eye over this and see if I'm being reasonable/unreasonable. The article MAY actually be a CSD, but I was being (I thought) considerate in marking it as prod to allow discussion. Thanks. CultureDrone (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
'If this template is removed, it should not be replaced'. Remember that WP:PROD is only for uncontested deletions. Removing the template presumably indicates contesting of the prod, so the correct next step is to take this to AFD. Algebraist14:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, the Algebraist is right, but it would make things a lot easier if people removing prods actually provided a reason. It's mentioned in the template! Then again, perhaps it's just another manifestation of people not reading instructions. - Mgm|(talk)18:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I don't like prods much. They don't leave a 'paper' trail like AFDs do and, to me, they look like an underhand way to delete an article. The entire process depends on the opinion of just two people, the prodder and the deleting admin. If at all possible, I prefer AFD. People use prod templates too much on articles that are clearly going to be controversial. - Mgm|(talk)18:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
When you donate, you are donating to the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikimedia covers a lot of great projects, including Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikisource, etc. (full list at www.wikimedia.org) tiZom(2¢)19:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
past tense or present
Which tense should be used, past or present. For example, the Boeing 737 is an airplane. the 737-200 is no longer made. The 737-800 is still being made. Should the article read:
The Boeing 737 is an airplane with 2 engines. In 1967, the first 737 flew (not flies). There are many models.
The 737-200 is (or was) a short, stubby plane (or was because it is no longer made?)
The 737-200 has 6 doors (not had because there are still 737-200 aircraft flying today?) Lufthansa German Airlines ordered some planes (not orders).
The 737-800 is a long, skinny plane that has 8 doors.
Delta Airlines ordered some 737-800 aircraft (not orders).
The only information about you that will appear on Wikipedia is your IP address (or username if logged in) and any personal information you yourself say in an edit. Since an IP address technically can reveal some details about your location and internet connection, I'd recommend creating an account under a pseudonym; this will allow you to edit with greater anonymity. Pyrospirit (talk·contribs) 20:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Welcome to Wikipedia. Your ability to post here with the account Hornli Ridge2 shows that it is already working. I don't know what happened with the Hornli Ridge password but you could try requesting a new password again. Accounts cannot be deleted, but if you want your currently working account to be called Hornli Ridge without "2" then somebody should be able to rename both accounts. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Images without linking to the image page
This may possibly be the wrong place to ask this question, as it is mainly about using the MediaWiki software, rather than actually using Wikipedia itself. However, I couldn't think of a better place to ask it.
Is it possible to include an image in a page without having the link to the image information page being created? A wiki that I frequently visit would benefit from the ability to have images load without the links. It's using MediaWiki 1.10.0, in case that information is important. --Lardarse (talk) 19:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I hope this is just a small technical problem I can't seem to figure out, but there is something wrong with the ref numbers in the Dickinson article. There are fifty-one references, but the reflist has only fifty listed because #34 is listed twice and each following number is therefore off by one. Could someone take a look and let me know what to do? Thanks! María(habla conmigo) 20:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
All you have to do is find the second place where the ref is in the article, and replace that ref with <ref name=""/>. In side the "" just put the name of the ref and it should work fine. ~ BellaSwan20:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Really? I bypassed and emptied my cache, looked again and there's still only fifty with a duplicate #34. Also, when I clicked the ^ next to the first #34, it disappeared, being replaced by a duplicated #44. When I refresh the page, it goes back to two 34s. Er...? María(habla conmigo) 20:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
All of the timestamps in Wikipedia (can't beleve it took me a year to notice this) are a month behind. It's December, not November. Can we get a tech from WikiMeda to fix this? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vistro (talk • contribs) 21:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My user page claims it was edited the 6th of November, but I edited it today. Also, if you look at the history for the community portal, the latest edit was November 6th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vistro (talk • contribs) 21:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On your userpage, I see one edit on November 7 and one on December 7 (UTC +11, hence the day difference). Have you got a screenshot or something showing the dates, or is that November one also meant to be December? Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect your contributions page is an old cached version. Have you tried to bypass your browser cache on the page that has the supposed error? - Mgm|(talk)22:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If that article doesn't have what you're looking for, you might try asking a more detailed question at the Reference Desk, which specializes in knowledge questions. We're only here to help you use Wikipedia. Hersfold(t/a/c)22:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
how to add a file to an article
I uploaded a jpg photo of a lava heron to be used in the article on lava herons. Unfortunately, the file seems to have gone into limbo - it is not linked to the article. How do I link it?
I am finding the process of adding photos to your articles so frustrating that I may not do so in future. The difficulty of the process may be putting off many other people as well as me. Please put up clear instructions on how to link the image one uploads to an article.
Purely quoting from policy pages: A ban is a formal revocation of editing privileges on all or part of Wikipedia. Blocking, by contrast, is the technical mechanism we use to prevent an account or IP address from editing Wikipedia. While blocks are one mechanism used to enforce bans, they are most often used to deal with vandalism and violations of the three-revert rule. Blocks are not the only mechanism used to enforce bans. A ban is a social construct and does not, in itself, disable a user's ability to edit any page. You will get much more in depth information and understanding if you read the policies themselves: Wikipedia:Banning policy; Wikipedia:Blocking policy.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean. This is the help desk for Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Maybe you saw one of our more than two million articles and thought we were the help desk for the subject of the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Someone who actually understands this stuff well may have a more elegant solution, but I fixed it by manually placing the code from {{userinfo}} and tweaking the right alignment. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. The first time you use a reference: <ref name="name">text</ref>; the next time you want to use the same reference, all you need to do is place <ref name="name" />. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, is it okay to for a biographical article to link to a site raising funds to help the person? I'm concerned I may have been wrong in taking the link out for Jammie Thomas. ThanksRich (talk) 04:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If Jammie Thomas has a pertinent (notable) case and there are reliably sourced published articles about the legal defense fund, then you might mention it. Mentioning it to raise money is not permitted.
Reading the article, the most I can think is to look for creditable news stories that mention that she established a legal defense fund and cite the source. Citing the legal defense fund website for the purposes of raising money is not permitted. Congolese (talk) 04:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I saw an election here. Someone mentioned WP space. I assume that this help page is one of the Wikipedia space because that's the name of the page, Wikipedia:Help desk. What is Projectspace? Some examples of those pages? Congolese (talk) 05:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, I am trying to rearrange sections in the article Kuala Lumpur but there seems to be a problem which i dont understand. Under a level-2 headline (Demographics) there are four sub-headlines. When try to edit the section to create just one sub-headline, the result was unexpected. The Demographic section merged with the next section (Geography), and the Geography headline dissapears. See this: before, and after. Any idea whats the problem? kawaputratorque06:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes i removed it because the geography level-2 headline is contained within the Demographic level-2 headline. Meaning, when i click edit to Demographic, how is it possible that Geography (a separate section) is also within the edit box for Demographics? So i removed it. But this was after where the problem started, ie: my original post. How is it possible this edit of mine resulted in some missing texts below. The text below does not appear in the article but appears in the edit box! Am i missing something? Hope i am clear.
==Geography==
{{main|Geography of Kuala Lumpur}}
The geography of Kuala Lumpur is characterized by a huge valley known as [[Klang Valley]]. The valley is bordered by the [[Titiwangsa Mountains]] in the east, several minor ranges in the north and the south and the [[Strait of Malacca]] in the west. The name Kuala Lumpur is a [[Malay language|Malay]] word which literally means "muddy confluence" as it is located at the [[Confluence (geography)|confluence]] of the [[Klang River|Klang]] and [[Gombak River|Gombak]] rivers.<ref>{{cite news|publisher=Asiaweek|work=Asia's Best Cities 2000|title=Kuala Lumpur: Growing Pains|url=http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/asiacities/kualalumpur.html|accessdate=2007-12-04}}</ref>
Hello,
I just logged on and spent three hours cleaning up, deleting repeated items, and putting everything in the correct sequence for the "Pete Sears" page. After I pressed save, it said in red letters I would have to try and submit the info again...even though my changes showed up underneath. I somehow lost the changes while attempting to get them to take. Is there anyway for me to retireive the changes that I made?
Thank you. Pemburyclose (talk) 07:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It looks to me like you haven't edited the article in many months, so is it possible that you used the preview, and did not use the "save page" button? Another possibility is that when you went to save, the database was temporarily locked, which happens from time to time, to allow the servers to catch up. Generally they don't stay locked for more than a minute or two at the most, so waiting it out isn't too difficult. Since I don't see any edits from today, it was not caused by an edit conflict, so I'm not sure what the red letters you saw were. Unfortunately, if you closed the window you were editing in, no, there is no way for you to get those changes back. Sorry :( Ariel♥Gold08:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest that you read the external links guideline. Generally there are very few reasons to add links to businesses, except in the articles about those businesses themselves. It would, of course, be easier to answer if you linked to the page you wanted to add it to, and gave the link to the site you want to add. Ariel♥Gold08:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I notice you've added a certain external link to a few articles and have been reverted, so I assume your company website is linked in this edit The website in question gives sale advertisements for a company; it does not provide the readers with any additional and helpful content, so I'm afraid your addition is considered spamming, see WP:SPAM#External link spamming for our guideline on this matter. Please don't add the same link to Wikipedia articles again. Thank you, PeaceNT (talk) 08:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Jewish customs & Sting
I'm writing a paper and I was wondering a couple of things: why do Jewish people rip their clothes when someone dies? and does any one know the name of the song that the artist Sting sings about in the song, Dancing for the dead? Any one have any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.13.107 (talk) 08:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You may be better off asking at the Reference desk (probably the Humanities and Entertainment desks, respectively) where general knowledge questions are answered. This page is for help using Wikipedia. However, the article Bereavement in Judaism may have some of the information you require. --Kateshortforbob09:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
After a long (and, frankly, rather unconstructive) discussion about conflicts of interest when helping a colleague in our copywriting team correct inaccurate and non-neutral statements on the article about my employers (uSwitch), we agreed that further edits would be placed on the Talk: page and left for another editor to make the change.
I posted, on behalf of my colleagues, such a requested change on October 25, 2007. Similarly, both I and another helpful editor listed it on the COI noticeboard, in the hope that someone there might help out and make the edit for us.
Since then, one editor has mentioned that he was unable to make the edit himself because he was about to go on holiday, which is entirely understandable. Other than that, absolutely nothing has happened.
I am still very disappointed about the way in which the original COI discussion took place — with my perception being that the only editor seeming to assume good faith being myself and everyone else involved assuming that, simply because I am employed by a company I must be incapable of being objective about edits to that article, without taking the time to look at the content of the edits being proposed and with little knowledge of the context of those edits. It was all the more frustrating given that I'd given up quite a bit of goodwill within the company explaining the concept of WP:NPOV and WP:COI, that we were entirely clear about the COI and that we actively invited review of the edits to ensure other, unconflicted editors were happy with the neutrality of the resulting wording.
What worries me more, however, is that following "the right process" to try to get edits made to an article simply doesn't seem to work — in this case, at least. Nearly 45 days after first proposing edits that would make the article more accurate and more neutral, absolutely nothing has happened. Frankly, we would have been better served going to a webcafé and making the edits ourselves and hiding the conflict.
It is my belief that the COI policy currently does not work. The principles behind it are sound and wise; I have no disagreement with the policy itself and agree that it's necessary to have such a policy on Wikipedia. In practice, however, there seem to be far more editors interested in looking for conflicted edits and making sure no evil companies or politicians try to whitewash criticism of themselves than there seem to be editors interested in ensuring that edits are indeed neutral and balanced — a situation I understand entirely, but not one I believe is conducive to the goals of Wikipedia. In short, the letter of the law seems to be treated as more important than its spirit — something which I believe damages Wikipedia and gives us less credibility as a "real" encyclopædia.
So I have two issues:
Could someone please take a look at the proposed changes to the article uSwitch and either make the edits or leave comments on the Talk: page so we can discuss them further;
How do we "fix" the implementation of the COI policy so that it works properly and other editors don't suffer similar frustrations?
All suggestions and help gratefully received and, obviously, I should disclaim that these words and my frustration are mine alone and are not necessarily representative of the views of my employers. For the record, I do not work in the marketing or PR department of the company, I am a software developer who got involved in this whole issue simply because I lose lots of my free time to this awesome project to create a good, Free encyclopædia, and thus was asked to advise on how to deal with inaccuracies within the article.
I will take a look in a minute, and meanwhile I will offer my perspective. :) COI edits are discouraged, but not disallowed. If you feel fully confident that your edits are neutral, not promotional and provide proper sourcing, you might choose to be bold. I'm not one to invoke "ignore all rules", but if your proposed edits will stand up to strict scrutiny then following process for the sake of process does no good for the encyclopedia. With your involvement announced on the talk page, no one can accuse you of being covert. As far as changing the policy, you begin to fix it by opening conversation at Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest or at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). (Personally, I'd open it at both.) Changing Wikipedia policy can require quite a lot of wheel-spinning, but if you are motivated, you may be able to make it happen. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk)14:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Evidently, the changes have already been implemented. Looking at the history of the article, I can see your hesitance to be bold in this regards. Good luck with the policy revision. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk)14:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Is there anyway to stop or slow down Sinebot...
Sinebot seems to think project talk subpages are also talk pages (not unreasonable), and is signing a subpage in the talk area that is being used to collect assessment information. For this purpose the edit history is sufficient documentation of who has done what (at least for now). Is there any way to tell the bot, don't auto-sign here?
A related problem. Sometimes on talk pages, there will be an edit conflict because Sinebot came and signed a previous post. On long talk pages this can be a real problem because the edit conflict causes the entire page to be loaded in the browser and memory is so clogged that editing is near impossible. Again is there any way to make Sinebot a little less aggressive?
For the first problem, you will want to check for Category:Non-talk pages that are automatically signed. That means that SineBot is monitoring it even if it is not a talk page. Then establish consensus on the project talkpage that SineBot is not needed then remove the category.
For the second problem, contact User:Slakr (the operator of SineBot) with your question.
Can you remember an article that you've edited? If you can track your log in name and if you had entered a valid e-mail which is still current, Wikipedia will be able to mail you your old password. Otherwise, I'm afraid that you may have no other option than to create a new account. --Moonriddengirl(talk)13:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
--212.38.136.250 (talk) 13:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)I just created an account for my company then I created a page. It is all about my company in Amman, Jordan. The name is PAUSE Business Center. But when I want to search for it in Wikipedia I cant find it. Why??? Please tell me the procedure. Thanks.[reply]
Adnan Hajjawi
Amman, Jordan
Hello. Personally, I don't see any record of an article having been created for PAUSE Business Center, and I do not find a record that an article has been deleted under that name. (There are three processes under which mainspace articles are deleted: 1) speedy deletion; 2) proposed deletion (prod) and 3) Articles for deletion (AfD). For more information, see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?) If you posted the question under your logged in name, we would be able to look at your contribution history to see if there's any indication of what might have happened there. If not, then I would presume something happened to disrupt the saving of the page, whether that might be a technical glitch or user error. Personally, I try to save material off wikipedia before creating articles just in case. If you can give more information--such as the log in name used to create the article--we may be able to help further. --Moonriddengirl(talk)13:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
help
I am new to Wikipedia. I updated Carnegie Corporation's profile and it says it needs to be cited and wikified. What does this mean? I am from the organization so all information inputed is correct.
Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.20.3.132 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 7 December 2007
Information provided in an article must have verifiable, reliable sources provided (usually as footnotes) so that the information can be checked by other editors and by users. To "wikify" an article means to put it into the proper Wikify format, with internal links to other Wikipedia articles, proper section and subsection headings, etc. Also: if you are from this organization, please be aware of our highly stringent conflict of interest standards. As a rule, with certain exceptions, you should generally not be editing this article at all. --Orange Mike | Talk13:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Page doesnt show up
Thanks for your reply.
My page log on name is PAUSE Business Center.
I created the account and I created a logo and I saved the page but whenever i make a search on PAUSE Business Center it wont show up the information.
Problem with a template calling itself (in the noinclude)
Create a template named A containing the text: <includeonly>inc1</includeonly><noinclude>noinc calling={{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}</noinclude>
Save. It will show: noinc calling=inc1
Call A from another page B, as in: {{:A}}
Page B will show: inc1
Edit page A, change the number in inc1 to inc2, change only the includeonly part, it should be: <includeonly>inc2</includeonly><noinclude>noinc calling={{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}</noinclude>
Save, here is the problem - page A will show: noinc calling=inc1
Refresh page A, nothing chages.
Refresh page B, it shows, as it should: inc2
Edit page A, save immediately with no changes at all, it will fix and show: noinc calling=inc2
If you change anything outside the includeonly part, this error will not occure.
This really looks like a bug.
If you want an example see in my user page, the template (which I refer to as A here): User:Itaj Sherman/sandbox/X0. You can edit in the template, change the number in inc## and save. You can also see that in User:Itaj Sherman/sandbox it will show the new number.
Hi Itaj Sherman, I have not been able to look deeply into your problem, but it seems like you are doing a lot of refreshing, saving with no changes etc. sort of things so maybe this could be some issue with the cache, have you tried bypassing it? (see WP:BYC) --Kudret abiTalk17:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is just the way the wiki engine is behaving now, and I think it's a bug. It happens on the hebrew wikipedia too. All the refreshing and saving I did here was in order to get a specific description of the problem, and I did. Anyway, as I said, the thing is that there was a problem already before refreshing, and even refreshing doesn't solve it. I think a programmer of wiki-engine needs to look at this, if you tell me where to report bugs, I will report it. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a bug but a deliberate feature. You may have to edit or purge a page transcluding a template in order for the page to "discover" that the template has been changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is not possible to require an edit for pages that transcluding a template, because when someone changes a template he cannot be required to go edit all the pages that already use it. Anyway, it is not where the problem happens. I am talking about a template transcluding itself. Which can be very common, because sometimes people give examples of how to use a template in its own noinclude section. Now, in this situation, the templates does not discover that it has been changed by refreshing (is this what you mean by purge?). And it makes no sense to have a feature that requires edit+save without changing anything just in order for a template to discover itself, it's not a teenage support site. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Let me explain specifically why it is important. Is also the way I found this bug. I was changing a template in the hebrew wikipedia. That template has in its noinclude section, an explanation of how to use it, with a few examples. After I saved it, I wanted to see that the shown examples changed and work correctly in the new way I planned them to. But they didn't change at all. I refreshed and they still didn't change. Then I went to another page that trascludes that template and there it seems good (in the new version). --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I got the purge thing. It fixes it. So I get it now, it may just be a known issue that won't be fixed. But calling it a deliberate feature doesn't do it, I don't think anyone would say it works better this way. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK no, I read the whole purge explanation, and it is not it. They specifically state that the page that has been changed is "touched" and should be recreated immediately. This does not happen in this case where the template is changed and saved but doesn't discover its change where transcluding itself. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 23:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to have discovered the link I gave to purge. If you dont like calling it a "deliberate feature" then call it a known and accepted consequence of a deliberate choice. For performance reasons, Wikipedia doesn't want to immediately rebuild every page transcluding a template each time the template is edited. And the person editing the template is not supposed to go through the transcluding pages and purge them. They will eventually be updated and no or very little harm is probably done by continuing to transclude the old template version for a while. Editing a template which transcludes itself may be a little tricky and the functionality is not mentioned directly at Wikipedia:Purge. I guess the saved page is only built once, based on what the transcluded page (itself) looked like before the save. I think the current functionality is OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WHAT DOES WIKIPEDIA SAY ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION?
Did you know that Wikipedia—the free online encyclopedia that anyone can write an article for—is the second most visited site on the web? And that if your organization isn't on it, it should be? Take a look at the entries for well-known organizations such as the NAACP and the American Cancer Society. You can edit an entry about your organization (or one you know) and you can create an entry for your organization if there isn't one already. It's an opportunity to let people know not only about your nonprofit, but about its constituency, clients, and cause. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SCIwoburn (talk • contribs) 18:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know where you got this from, but Wikipedia has strict guidelines about advertising (we don't allow it) and there's also a conflict of interest guideline that specifically discourages people to write about organizations they're connectioned with because it poses a risk to the Neutral point of view policy. In short: Just don't do it. - Mgm|(talk)19:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia isn't actually the second most-visited Web site, but the English Wikipedia does rank in the top ten most visited sites in the United States (depending on whose data we believe). In any case, Wikipedia is enormously visible, and any corporation that fails to grasp the value of exposure here doesn't deserve to stay in business. Thus as Wikipedia grows in popularity it can expect plenty of public relations people to come here and try to astroturf articles about their companies. Note that as a side effect of Wikipedia's notability guidelines, we probably end up inadvertently promoting well-established companies at the expense of startups that aren't notable yet, in a rich get richer kind of way. In any case, if billions of people really wanted to read pages about every single company in the world, then Wikicompany would be (or be on the way to becoming) a massively popular wiki. --Teratornis (talk) 01:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How to retrieve cite entire article
Hi, my article was deleted last week because of copyright issues (copied straight from the website). However, I am in fact writing on behalf of that organization, who owns both the content and website, but i failed to cite properly. I've tried reading all the help articles, but i'm still kind of confused (even my post on the deleted page's usertalk page was deleted). So first off, how would i go about 'undeleting' my article. Then, how would i properly cite my article? (since everything was copied off the website, would i just note that one website as my reference?). I still have the source code for my original entry, but i don't think it's too wise to try to repost the same article before coming here for help. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcbroadway (talk • contribs) 18:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You've got a few problems here. First, the deleted talk page said, "We..."! Each individual account on Wikipedia is assigned to an individual editor. We don't permit any kind of corporate or organizational accounts (what are called "role accounts") where multiple persons may be sharing the editorial responsibilities. Each Wikipedia editor is uniquely responsible for his or her edits. Second, the article was created and edited by someone connected to the subject of the article, in violation of our conflict of interest guidelines which seek to preserve our neutral point of view and avoid the insertion of advertisement, biased statements, etc. Third, the question of whether the subject organization is even notable (in the Wikipedia sense of the term. Read our guidelines on that topic for more information as to whether the group would even qualify for a Wikipedia article. If it does qualify, you will need to provide sources for the article from a more impartial set of sources, not from the organization's own website. --Orange Mike | Talk19:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You're better off writing something in your own words anyway. Corporate websites rarely write in an style that fits in an encyclopedia. - Mgm|(talk)19:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good friend of mine is huge Wikipedia addict. For birthday, I'd like to have an article in Wikipedia about that person. I know it is not compliant with Wiki rules & guidelines and would expect it to be deleted, but would like permission/approval for one-day gift article. No inappropriate or negative information, just short bio. Is this ever allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.91.34.33 (talk) 20:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
With a potential amount of editors of 6 billion people, multiple people would be having their birthday each day. Allowing each of them such a gift would lead to massive amounts of work for administrators, so to avoid the hassle, there's no exceptions. Sorry! - Mgm|(talk)23:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I see the comment by PrimeHunter regarding Hornli Ridge account as
Accounts cannot be deleted, but if you want your currently working
account to be called Hornli Ridge without "2" then somebody should
be able to rename both accounts.
Hi there I am terribly sorry for the 'copyright infringement' problem. I was just trying to get my husband on Wikipedia and get his name out there and his work, he is the sculptor. I had his permission to write anything from his own personal webpage, and he asked me to get his Shows and commisioned pieces in there. So I changed a few things so that it is not verbatim what his website says. I was wondering if you can please take a look at what I have edited and please consider putting this back up. It is my Christmas present to him. But if I must redo it if given the oppurtunity I will do so. Thank you for taking the time to re-read or allow the changes to be placed up for others to read, or asking me to redo it all together.
Sincerely,
Carolyn Faunce
e-mail removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fcarolyn (talk • contribs) 23:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid writing about your husband would violate the conflict of interest guidelines. "Get his name and his work out there" is usually another phrase for "advertise" which is not allowed in Wikipedia. Unless he had his work exhibited in a major gallery or something like that, I doubt he meets the guideline for inclusion (WP:BIO). - Mgm|(talk)23:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok - so i tried to register as 'viqles' and it said i needed to get an admin to approve it (as its 'very similar to ...') can someone do this for me please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.138.83 (talk) 09:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
We generally don't delete article because the subject wants it. He appears to be at least slightly noteworthy. Can you expand on the reasons for his opinion? - Mgm|(talk)08:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Huh? A registered user is defined as a user with an account, and somebody with an account name clearly has an account. I don't know whether you are thinking of autoconfirmed accounts (happens after 4 days), but that doesn't change the user page link. The link was red because it went to a page which had not been created at the time. See Wikipedia:Red link. This goes for all pages and is nothing specific to user pages. The only way to avoid a red user page link in the signature, without somebody creating the user page, is to change the signature away from the default. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The custom on the help desk is to strike our errors, like this: Oops, my bad (and yes, I've had practice at this - but note, because of the way the brain forms memories, it turns out the more embarrassing our gaffes, the more firmly we will remember the accompanying lesson. I can still remember at least one word definition I missed on the Scholastic Aptitude Test decades ago). While we're on the subject of user pages, it's interesting to scroll around in Special:Listusers and note the low percentage of users who have them. Most user names appear as red links on Wikipedia. This suggests the majority of users who have created accounts have not yet gotten very far with editing on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 00:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Could some of the experienced editors please review the recent changes to this article ? I'm having a hard time working out if this is vandalism, a violation of WP:NOR or simply a good faith (but confusing) rewrite. Thanks. CultureDrone (talk) 00:42, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok - that's the last time I try and sort our user pages ! Can someone please look at Arsen Salsa - I believe this is supposed to be the userpage for Arsensalsa (the user renamed the page back on 5th December, but in trying to rename it as a user page, I renamed it (incorrectly) as User:Arsen Salsa, rather than User:Arsensalsa, and now I can't move it to the correct page. Aaarrgghhh - help !! CultureDrone (talk) 01:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I think I've messed it up. I tried to fix this and got in a right old mess. It looks like there is a double redirect sending you to the wrong page. The Arsen Salsa article in the main namespace redirects to the correct place User:Arsensalsa, but that page includes a redirect to the wrong place User:Arsen Salsa. I tried to move it, but the Wiki software stopped me, saying a page of that name already existed. I think it now needs the intervention of an experienced administrator. Astronaut (talk) 01:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well thanks for trying anyway ! If it's that difficult, I know it's not just me being a thicko...well, no more than usual ! Ok then ....Takes deep breath... one... two... three... "Administrators...HEELLPPP!" CultureDrone (talk) 10:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I need some advice rather quickly. I may -- or may not -- have started an edit war in the "Controversy" section of the Joe Klein article. An anonymous editor believes that the section is biased/unbalanced. I believe (quite firmly, I might add) otherwise. I would really appreciate input from experienced editors/administrators A.S.A.P.<br. />
--Nbahn (talk) 04:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you want any sort of a meaningful response, you're better off writing a full sentence. If you want to type that word in a search engine, use google or the search box on the left of your screen. - Mgm|(talk)08:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded image to en and commons, now want to get rid of en version.
Is there a way to delete an image I uploaded in error? Basically I have uploaded a newer version in commons and I'm not sure how to reference it specifically - the en version seems to take precedence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeoligny (talk • contribs) 10:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I edit mainly Malaysian related articles, and i notice a lot of articles on places talk about two things in one article. Eg: Muar is a town in Johor state, and is also an administrative district (named after the town/capital). Many other articles are also like this: Sandakan, Kudat, Kuantan, Raub, etc. I think there should be separate articles for the town and districts. Should i proceed to create separate articles? kawaputratorque10:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is no requirement to do this as a policy, but there is no prohibition against doing this either, so you must use common sense. The articles are not so large that a split is justified by the article size guideline. However, I think you should split them. As you say, each article is really about two distinct entities, and we generally prefer not to do that. When two governmental divisions are co-extensive, we generally do have a single article, but this is not the case here. If there is an appropriate wikiproject, please discuss this at the project first. -Arch dude (talk) 15:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm...after checking out the talk page, it seems it's been discussed what is should be redirected to. But seen as there is no clear cut consensus, I'd undo the edit, and contact WLU further. — Rudgetspeak.work17:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say no. There is no benefit from deleting the page and you haven't shared any reason that would fit the deletion policy. If you incorporated any of the text from the redirected page in the redirect target, deletion would even be illegal. --Mgm|(talk)10:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
New User
I want to make a new account to expirience what a new user experiences on WIki. Is there any way that I can do this without being considered a sock puppet? ♠♦♣♥16:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
An alternative account is a sockpuppet, so there's no way to avoid it. An account like that is allowed, I believe, though I can't find it at WP:SOCK#LEGIT any more. But if an account isn't creating problems, then it will not be scrutinised. The same goes for sockpuppets. x42bn6TalkMess17:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've noticed that you if edit certain controversial articles, there is a chance people will call you a "sock" if they disagree with you (like evolution/creation, Israel, etc.). You can also be called a "sock" if you write extremist material. If you write on obscure topics, you will probably be ok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spevw (talk • contribs) 00:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's okay to have a sockpuppet account as long as you don't abuse it by voting twice, or fake more support for an idea or viewpoint than there really is. Using an alternate account to see how newbies are treated is perfectly fine. - Mgm|(talk)10:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Click on the button to the left, "Upload file". Once you filled in all the boxes, it should upload. If you have any other troubles, I could upload it for you. :) — Rudgetspeak.work17:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
the other day i asked the problem which is as followed:
Hello, this is one poor guy, need your help badly....! coz the format of all the audio and video files is some kid "ogg" and on simple windows media player it doesnot run... we are here for study in cuba, and here the internet is fully restricted' except some sites like wikipedia... now i yearn to learn spanish, there is enough material for begginers in wikibooks' learn french catagory, but the main problem with the french is its pronunciation. here i cant download the extra codecs to listen the audio files given in content. plz do change the format,compatible to simple windows media player so that this poor guy could be able to fullfill his innocent wish. Please.....!
and i was suggested to download VLC players... and this i tried to do by every mean here.... but COULDN'T!
the other one was:
You should check the file info page. There is a Java program that allows playing such files directly from your browser.
plz explain this, because i didnt understand where can i catch that "file info page". and how it can help me....
Media:Example.ogg, a sample sound file that you can use to test. If the sound file you're trying to listen to is called "Example.ogg", then the info page for that file is at Image:Example.ogg. If you go to that page, you'll see a button similar to the one at right, which you can click on to play the sound file. For your convenience, I've included that button here for you to see what I'm talking about. If you click on the little blue "i" logo beneath the play button, you'll be brought to the info page for this file. I hope that helps, but please come back if you are still having trouble. Hersfold(t/a/c)18:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Abortion in Russia
According to the Basic Law of the Russian Federation on Citizens’ Healthcare ( July 22, 1993), every woman has a right to make decisions regarding her motherhood. Abortion on demand can be performed up to 12 weeks of pregnancy, due to social reasons - up to 22 weeks, and due to medical necessity and upon the woman’s consent – at any point during pregnancy. Abortion can only be performed in licensed institutions (typically hospitals or women’s clinics) and by physicians who have specialized training.
According to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (article 123) performing abortion by a person who does not have a medical degree and specialized training, is punishable by fine up to 80,000 RU, or by fine up to 6 months income of the convicted, or by community service from 100h to 240h, or a jail term from 1 to 2 years. In cases when the illegal abortion resulted in the death of the mother or significant harm to her health, the convicted faces a jail term up to 5 years.
Despite a significant reduction of the abortion to birth ratio since mid 1990s, the countries of the former USSR maintain the highest rate of abortions in the world. In 2001, in Russia 1,320,000 children were born, while 1,800,000 abortions were performed. [2] In 2005, 1,600,00 abortions were registered in Russia; and 20% of them involved underage mothers. [3]
History
Prior to the October Revolution of 1917 the Russian law considered abortion a homicide and was punishable by a 4 to 5 year jail term with the loss of civil rights. In 1903 the punishment was reduced to 3 years. Since then a popular demand to eliminate the punishment of the mothers, and to punish only the doctors, was growing. However, the old law effectively remained in force until November 18, 1920, when the Bolshevik’s government issued a Decree on Women’s Healthcare, which provided for free and on demand abortions for the first time in the world. The legalization reduced the fatality of abortions from 4% to 0.28%. [8]
On June 27, 1936 the Stalin’s government issued a decree that prohibited abortions, while increasing financial help to mothers, families with multiple children, expanding the availability of obstetrician services and childcare facilities, more strictly enforcing child support obligations, and providing for minor changes in the divorce law. Abortion was allowed only in exceptional cases, such as a severe threat to a mother’s life or health, or upon indication of debilitating hereditary diseases of the parents. Some studies show that the rate of criminal abortions and the number of fatalities skyrocketed during this time.
After the Stalin’s death, the prosecution of women for abortions was terminated on August 5, 1954. On November 23, 1955, the ban on abortions was lifted and on demand abortions in medical institution were legalized. This resulted in a significant reduction of women’s deaths during the abortion. Other consequences of this change were a significant growth of the number of abortions and what was widely perceived as discrimination against the reproductive and parental rights of fathers who had no right to interfere with the abortion decision. The new law gave women the leading position in parenthood planning, which changed the gender roles in the family and affected the Soviet society as a whole. [9]
The abortion statistic in the USSR was classified until the end of the 1980s. [10] During this period the USSR had one of the highest abortion rates in the world. The abortion rate in the USSR peaked in 1964 when 5.6 mln. abortions were performed, the highest number in Russia’s history. [11] Nevertheless, the legalization of abortions did not fully eliminate criminal abortions [E.A. Sadvokasova].
i have been watching your program and have noticed that you are looking for people to come and work for you but can not find any info on your web site could you please tell me where to find this info?
Hi. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were affiliated with the organization the article was about, and comcomitantly thought this help desk was attached to that organization. If I am right, please note that this place is Wikipedia, an online free encyclopedia, and this desk is for questions about using the encyclopedia, so we have no specific information about work opportunities at a particular organization. You might try searching Google for the homesite of the organization. We do have a reference desk for asking knowledge questions, though I donlt think they will be able to help you much with a general employment inquiry at a specific company.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Very few people get paid at Wikipedia. Most people who write here do it so that they can see what they write appear on the internet. Spevw (talk) 00:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
weight a baggage
hello for plane air asia what is the weigt of baggage ? and for more 15 kg by baggage for price for 1 kilo one more please? email <removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.83.242.123 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The best answer might be from asking Air Asia. Usually if your suitcase is even 1 kg too heavy, they could force you to check it in. If checked luggage is too heavy, you have to pay a fee (most airlines). Spevw (talk) 00:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Archive size
Greetings, anonymous help desk employee whose assistance I request. I should like to know whether there is any suggested or preferred size for talk page archives. I am under the impression that my archives are too short, and I shouldn't like to have overly numerous subpages; the only existing guidelines about archives that I am aware of provide general tips about breaking archives up thematically. Waltham, The Duke of20:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe that there is a recommended size for archives. It really depends on the amount of discussion you get; maybe 32K is enough for normal users, while a quick canvass of several admin's talkpages shows a preferred archive size of about 100K. It's really up to you. NF24(radio me!)21:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Article size", I've written? I'd better change this. Anyway, my first two archives are 114K and 125K respectively; pretty longer than I remembered, actually.
Nothing particularly useful there. I guess I shall try and keep the size of my archives around 100-125K, as they are not supposed to be edited (so there will be no size problem there) and it seems to me to be a good size for research purposes.
In any case, this Index I had barely noticed before. It is, to use a word I do not utter often, awesome. I am certain that it will help me find information about various things more easily.
The Editor's index is still under construction. The author will move it to the project (Wikipedia:) namespace when he "finishes," and we will also add links to it from various entry points into the Wikipedia help, to make it more obvious. I agree that the Editor's index deserves superlatives, both for its own usefulness, and for the underlying body of information it represents. That body of information, by the way, is the continuously mutating answer to the question: "How do we recruit millions of volunteers from every nation, background, and point of view, persuade them to work together to produce the largest encyclopedia in history, and make sure they know what to do in every editing situation that comes up more than once?" --Teratornis (talk) 07:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I archive my talk page by month. Some people do it every 50 discussions, some do it every x kb. There is no right or wrong answer, but if you are worried about creating too much subpages, just use the method that uses least of them. - Mgm|(talk)10:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that it is only to be expected that all these thousands of editors archive their talk pages differently, so it is hard for a unified standard to exist (even between bots). The problem is, Mgm, that if I do follow your advice, I shall have to create a single archive that will probably reach a Megabyte in size if given enough time, as few very long discussions have been held in my talk page so far (a situation that is now changing, nonetheless, with many new short messages).
And thinking of it in terms of numbers, I don't think I shall end up with that many archives after all, even in the long run, at the current rate: 2.5 archives per year. I hope.
Interesting background on the Index, Teratornis; I had been wondering why it was in User namespace, even though there are a couple of other useful pages linked to from official tutorials and introductions that are also located in user space. I couldn't agree more, of course, as far as its usefulness and documenting value are concerned. The Wikipedia community is truly vast, and more or less chaotic, and after at least two years of plain observation and one year of direct involvement (including several months of active exploring), there are still several dark nooks and crannies that I know nothing about.
Still, I believe it should be noted that the Index's role is supplementary; the Department directory is more than capable of giving a good overview of the community's organisation, as well as directing editors to the places they are most often looking for (even if sometimes indirectly). My only concern is that it also lists a couple of inactive pages, like the FA Help Desk, which I think had better be removed—if a page serves no purpose, why on Earth send editors there? Waltham, The Duke of22:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
screwed up on posting info
Hi Wikipedia,
I updated an entry for Nicholas Longworth but I screwed up and entered my name in the entry. Can you please tell me how to get my name off of the page?
Good day, I am a newly appointed admin in the Tagalog Wikibooks which has a very great community - none! Our community their is dead that's why I am going to ask this here. How do you change the text special pages so that I can translate them to the local langauge? Thanks a lot! -- FelipeAira 23:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
LaTeX (produced with <math> tags), depending on your preferences, usually produces images containing mathematical symbols, but not the characters of the mathematical symbols. Since headers contain text (and not images), the symbol is excluded from the section title in the TOC. To make phi visible in the TOC, I replaced the math tags with φ, the typographical symbol. Similarly, you'd want to replace with α, with δ, etc. Since the typographical representation of these symbols is not as pretty as LaTeX, may I suggest not including the symbols in the section headers (based on that reason)? If you do want them included, however, using characters is the way to do it. GracenotesT§00:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A question about what constitutes 'promotion'
My name is Ian Rowland. There is a Wikipedia page about me. I did not create this, ask for this to be created, or have anything to do with the fact that it exists. At the moment it is a stub, and some of the information on it is out of date. Is it all right for me to add extra information and also correct factual or out of date errors? I am concerned that someone might consider this to be self-promotion, which I do understand is not allowed. Although I do have a website that has one trading section, I am not seeking to promote it or to advertise anything. I just thought that since someone has created a site about me, I would like it to be more than a stub and to have accurate, up to date information. Is this allowed? ManYossasarian22 (talk) 00:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Autobiography, and particularly this section. Basically, add and correct the really uncontroversial facts, note the rest on the discussion page, and be sure to engage in discussion with any other editors - hopefully you'll be able to provide the facts, they can provide the neutrality, and you won't have to stay a stub. :) - IMSoP (talk) 01:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your replies. 'IMSoP'suggests I should 'note the rest on the discussion page'. So I went and looked up how to get to the discussion page, and it said I click on the 'Discussion' tab. I went back to the page about me and did this, and I got to a page that told me the page about me was a Stub, twice, and didn't seem to provide any input field or any space where I could type anything - at least as far as I could see. IMSoP also says, 'be sure to engage in discussion with any other editors', but I haven't the faintest idea how to 'be sure' of this, or how to comply with this suggestion or directive. How would I know if this discussion were taking place? And where?
I don't know if this is the sort of arena where anything less than a glowing encomium meets with splenetic invective, but I have to say this, my first taste of trying to deal with Wikipedia and its community, has not been a very happy one. Consider the simplicity of my aim: to correct some out of date misinformation that someone has posted about me. I am as web-savvy as the next guy, but it took me half an hour just to find out the designated appropriate place to raise my initial question. Does nobody think that a simple 'Ask your question here' link or tab would be a nice idea? As opposed to page after linked page after linked page of 'Rules about things you can't do' and 'Things you can't ask about at least not here'. Aslo, although I'm grateful that two people have replied, I don't think I'm really any further forward. (a) the advice I've been given doesn't seem to work unless further gnostic secrets are disclosed unto me [the discussion tab I'm told to use doesn't take me to an input field] and (b) I'm just referred to even more rules and regulations. I've no wish to complain or make unwelcome noises, and I'm prepared for the typical 'Hey, if you don't like the way we do things here, get lost' response that characterises some areas of the internet. Nonetheless, in case anyone cares, that's been my initial taste of Wikipedia. Perhaps future experience will be happier for all parties. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ManYossasarian22 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You can click the '+' tab (best for a new section) or "edit this page" at top of Talk:Ian Rowland. Wikipedia has a lot of bad experiences with people who write inappropriately about themselves, so there are rules about that. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Little green and red numbers on your watchlist?
I was looking at my watchlist the other day and saw a little green number with a plus beside it (something like a +2,134) then further on I saw a another number, except in red with a minus beside it (-123 etc). My question is what they are for? Thanks! Fattyjwoods (talk) 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's an indication of how much text was added or removed from the article. The number corresponds to the number of bytes - usually the number of characters, but not always, particularly when a template is involved. This page provides more explanation, as well as directions on how to change it if you like. Hersfold(t/a/c)05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Sorry. I'm sure this must be a common problem, but I can't seem to find the solution.
I uploaded a photo provided to me by Dr. Edwin D Kilbourne for a biographical page which I am writing. (I've been gradually extending it as I get more facts of interest.)
Dr Kilbourne provided me with the photo with the understanding that it would be uploaded onto wikipedia, and I have done so. It seems that I must now get further permission from him, either putting it in the public domain or else allowing its use under GNU or related licensing scheme. I will do so.
But how do I get the info box reference to image:EdwinDKilbourne.png to actually link to the photo......???????
RighterofWrongs 06:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
See Help:Image for examples. However, rather than make a plain link to the image, you should use one of the infoboxes for people, such as {{infobox person}} (or something more specific). You could study similar biography articles about people in the same field as your subject. --Teratornis (talk) 07:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can I ask your rationale for wanting to move it back? Anecdotally, bad trip is the common name for the phenomenon, while psychedelic crisis is not. Google seems to confirm in spades, returning 968 results for the latter and 136,000 results for the former (other searches limited usage to drugs to avoid sentences about traveling, still return massive results). Accordingly, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), bad trip seems to be the better title. In any event, you can request a move at Wikipedia:Requested moves. --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If I am going against the naming convention than I will drop the matter. My intention is to use the formal rather than the colloquial term for the experience, just like we list a certain city as "New York" rather than "The Big Apple". Haiduc (talk) 21:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. When rendered in my browser (Opera 9.02) using the 'Recommended for modern browsers' Math setting (Special:Preferences), the last three pis look identical and are rendered as .png images. The first is a text (Unicode?) pi. (Note that it is not the standard HTML π character: π.) To clarify the question for subsequent readers, we're at the difference between the following (LaTeX code → rendered pi):
For the lazy, I'll just mention that these are spaces of different sizes. Since they are at the end of the formula, they have no effect TeX-wise, but since MediaWiki is not too eager to compile them in unicode, they can be used to force PNG rendering. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 22:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we are missing something. On my system, the one with the \, (small space) is thinner and lower. I have no idea why. This is clearer if you put it, say, like this: . -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Editing Wikipedia page about my father, Alexander Ulanovsky. Tried to edit it, but my corrections disappeared together with the original text. (Maya Ulanovskaya, E-mail address: <email removed>)
For your own protection, please do not post your email address on highly visible pages such as this. The text you attempted to add to the article is already in its history so there is no need to post it here. Normally, one would not add the text of a rewrite below the existing article as you did, but replace the existing text with the new. In your case, however, you should suggest the text of any changes to the article's talk page, (which is here), because you have a conflict of interest in editing the article. Every suggestion should be backed up by identification of reliable sources which verify the change (your rewrite contained no sources whatever). I do not know what happened on your second edit, but somehow you blanked the article's text entirely. I have reverted the article back to its preexisting state.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was trying to place the hiding div for my userboxes on my userpage, but there is one section that refuses to work. I would appreciate it if someone had a look at it.
Here is the code that has broken:
<div class="NavFrame" style="padding:0;border-style:none;">
<div class="NavFrame" style="border-style:none;padding:0;">
<div class="NavHead" style="background:#EDF1F1;text-align:left;text-style:normal">
About my [[house|location]] and [[Time zones|time]]
</div><div class="NavContent" style="display:none;">
{{User EU}}
{{User EU citizen}}
{{Proud EU}}
{{User UK}}
{{user United Kingdom}}
{{user British citizen}}
{{User England}}
{{User Essex}}
{{User Wivenhoe}}
{{User time zone|UTC|clock}}
{{User dst 1}}
{{user date}}
{{User:HokieRNB/userboxes/visit|Chile}}
{{User:UserBox/User Earthling}}
{{User Earthling3}}
{{User:EVula/Userboxes/countries visited|8}}
</div></div></div>
can't edit page to include uploaded image thumbnail
I uploaded a photo of brian cherney no problem Brian-Cherney_in_2007.jpg (200 × 240 pixels, file size: 18 KB, MIME type: image/jpeg)
I have not been able to edit his page to include my photo as a thumbnail.
The page now looks like this below. instead of the image there is this text followed by the original article.
I have a lot of images of Canadian composers. Help me here please, and I can contribute a lot.
Thanks.
Stingdin
Brian Cherney (born 1942, Peterborough, Ontario) is a Canadian composer currently residing in Montréal, Quebec. He studied at the University of Toronto where he was a pupil of John Weinzweig. In 1972 he joined the Faculty of Music at McGill University, where he has taught analysis and composition for over thirty years. His pieces, often characterized by carefully calculated formal trajectories and a rich harmonic language, give the impression of a quiet intensity, usually featuring "stillness" in some manner. His works have been played throughout North America, Europe, and elsewhere. Cherney maintains an active career as a composer, teacher and author; his book Harry Somers (1975, U of T Press) remains one of the most important and detailed works of reference on this composer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stingdin (talk • contribs) 13:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm in a helpful mood today, so instead of shuttling you over to the Reference Desk, I'll answer here. You really should ask these questions over there, though.
In a question just below, the unstated nation turned out to be India. Many people who ask questions on the Help desk do not follow the suggestions in How To Ask Questions The Smart Way by Eric Steven Raymond, such as to include all information necessary to disambiguate the question. Then again, most of these reference-type questions are answerable from a search of Wikipedia and/or the Web, and Mr. Raymond of course urges would-be questioners to search before asking. While Mr. Raymond's general tone is a bit more hectoring than we strive for on Wikipedia, a critical thinker would overlook the tone and grasp the valuable lessons Mr. Raymond has to offer. Knowing how to get answers to tough questions does, in fact, have substantial value, both practical and (often) monetary. --Teratornis (talk) 17:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Now a days in disposal of solid wastes we use four of five boxes for sorting various type of the wates. What are these colours and what are there use, I mean how these different colour boxes are used? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.2.93.140 (talk) 17:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You might find what you are looking for in the article about India. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try and answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. --Moonriddengirl(talk)17:26, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I volunteered in the 1992 campaign of Boxer for Senate. The reason I did was the book she co-authored with Nicole Boxer, "Strangers in the Senate." It was a heart rending story of how women from the House wanted to meet and confer with Senators on the Clarence Thomas nomination during Anita Hill testimony.
The Congresswomen from the House of Representatives were refused entrance. The book describes the event from Boxer's perspective.
Our article mentions this briefly in the section U.S. Representative. If you think there should be more information there, just click the 'edit' link at the top of the section and add your own text. See WP:EDIT for more information on editing Wikipedia. Algebraist18:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please, Help Me.
Hello. I want to create many articles of Chinese famous people but the references that I have are in Spanish or in Chinese. What must I do? I'm awaiting your orders. Merry Christmas. Frankedjsjs (talk) 18:03, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merry Christmas to you to! Chinese and Spanish references are acceptable, make sure to use {{Zh icon}} and {{Es icon}} for Chinese and Spanish links, respectively. However please try to include as many English links as possible, and make sure they are reliable and can verify and claims. Best, — Rudgetspeak.work18:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This question has come up before on the Help desk; to look for past discussions, try this search: Search Help desk for: censoring images. Wikipedia claims to be not censored, which is true in some contexts, but the cynic in me can't help pointing out that for an uncensored project, Wikipedia deletes an awful lot of material. Evidently Wikipedia is not censored, except when it decides to be. In any case, those who wish to censor material from Wikipedia differently than Wikipedia does should look into organizing their own Collaborative filtering project. Wikipedia's vast trove of information is spawning a number of third-party projects to search, filter, and otherwise process Wikipedia's content to meet special needs. --Teratornis (talk) 21:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
He's rumoured to live in Lapland, in the United Kingdom and the United States. But please make sure next time you ask a question here, it's about using Wikipedia. Best, — Rudgetspeak.work18:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to create a page for wikipedia on a publishing company that have been in business for 12 years. How can i make a page?... so that when it is searched for it is able to display their information —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mastersunny6 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of articles for failing to comply with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I don't mean to be harsh, but if you need to ask how to create a new article, the odds are that you don't yet know enough about Wikipedia to know how to write an article which will "stick." This does not mean you should not try, but the more you know about Wikipedia editing, the more chance your article has of surviving. Whatever you do, be sure to save a copy of your article on your own computer. We don't want you to end up like this. You might want to try writing about this company first on Wikicompany, which has far more lenient policies for articles about corporations (Wikicompany wants an article about every legally incorporated company in the world, whereas Wikipedia only wants articles about companies notable enough to have been already written about in several reliable sources that are independent of the companies themselves). --Teratornis (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Changing userpage & talk page background and border colour
How do you change your user page & talk page background colour and border colour, to a blue background below.
I've copied the text which you've placed onto my talk page both pages are displaying a Blue background which i want, thank you Rudget and PrimeHunter for the help. SKYNET X5000 (talk) 20:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm traveling to San Perdo Sula on Dec. 18th and will be traveling via bus to Managua and Granada. I'm interested in a map that shows the towns/cities in Honduras and Nicaragua. I like to sports fish and would like to learn about sport fishing. I'm also interested is retiring in Nicaragua - I like to be around the water close to fishing opportunities. My girl friend is from San Perdo Sula and her daughter lives in Granda and is getting married on January 5th. How do I find a map and any info on sport fishing and where I should look for property and retirement would be appreciated.
Unfortunately, Wikipedia isn't really a travel guide, so we don't have maps of the kind you're looking for. All of our maps are strictly encyclopedic and generally show only the location of the country in relation to the rest of the world. You can try looking at our articles on San Pedro Sula, Managua, Granada, Honduras, and Nicaragua, but I'm afraid you won't find much. I'd suggest talking to a travel agent, tour guide, or a realtor in one of those areas. Hersfold(t/a/c)21:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is minor but disturbing, and I would have changed it myself if I could have.
The Stub states that Xavier House Publishing was Established in Feb 2007. This is a false statement. Xavier House Publishing has been around since 2004. I'm not sure where the author got 2007 from. If they had done a minimum of research (by checking bn.com or amazon.com) they would have discovered Xavier House's first book, Free Kentucky, was released in October-2006, a full 5 months before they state that Xavier House Publishing came into existence.
I would appreciate if this was corrected. I would have been more than happy to do it myself, but I could not get the editing page to work.
I recently changed my email address associated with my user name and while waiting for a confirmation email, which I didn't receive, I attempted to get a password retrieval email. I have requested it twice with no such luck. I am assuming it is because of my changing the email address associated. How can I resolve this issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.51.96 (talk) 23:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It could be that changing the email address takes a few minutes to 'stick', but quite often failure to receive confirmation is due to to strict spam filters. Some spam filters don't just drop the email in the trash bin, but just not pass it on at all. What email provider do you use? - Mgm|(talk)23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Would linking to some of my own articles be an appropriate edit?
Hello. I am a freelance journalist in the metro D.C. area, and I published several articles on Halliburton and its work in Iraq starting back in 2002-2003, reporting accurately that HAL had rebuilt Saddam's oil fields after two wars and that the company would profit again after Saddam fell.
Would it be appropriate for me to submit links to my own articles?
It sounds like those articles support a viewpoint that could be contentious. It depends on what paper published the articles and what experience you have on the subject. To avoid any accusations of being non-neutral, I'd recommend mentioning this on the article talk page and contacting the editors who've edited the article recently to see what they think. Please read: WP:COI (conflict of interest) and WP:RS (reliable sources). - Mgm|(talk)23:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You've got two options: 1) you print it out and stick it in an envelope addressed to your friend. 2) you send them the URL in an email. - Mgm|(talk)23:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I just created an account and received an emailed link to authorize, but have tried it three times now and always get a response message stating the code is wrong. I tried it both with and without the firewall active... what can I do? It is NOT due to a SPAM filter.
Thanks
Suedid (talk) 01:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Is the link on one line? Some mail programs may break it by splitting it in two lines. If that happened then copy the parts together into your browser address bar. Note that email confirmation is only needed to use email features. Your ability to post the above message shows that your account is working and can edit normally. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, thanks for the inquiry, Wikipedias in all languages are under free licenses so you can use anything you wish from the German Wikipedia article to develop the article here. In fact, a lot of articles are built through translation from other wikis. (see also WP:TRANSLATE) --Kudret abiTalk02:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just add the name of the category anywhere on your userpage (though the bottom is probably best), formatted like a link ([[Category:Wikipedian paratroopers]], or whatever). Of course, many wikipedians add categories indirectly, using userboxes. Algebraist03:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:COI if you are the subject of the article, related to her, or associated with her. Also see WP:RS - Wikipedia requires reliable sources to support any potentially controversial claims in an article. --Teratornis (talk) 07:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And since the Lita Llewellyn article does not yet exist, be aware that new articles by new users have a large chance of getting deleted, for violating any of the vast number of policies and guidelines you probably have not heard of yet. We don't want you to end up like this. See: WP:EIW#Biogra for information about biography articles on Wikipedia. Be sure to save a copy on your computer's hard drive of whatever you contribute here. --Teratornis (talk) 08:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am a long-time user of Wikipedia, and I recently decided to create an account as an editor. I had hoped to use my real name, and found that it is already in use! I would like to point out that no one else has my name (I am certain of it), so some one is using it as a username on Wikipedia without permission. I feel as if my identity has been stolen. What should I do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.156.172 (talk) 04:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Without knowing the username in question, we cannot navigate the conditional branches that determine your options. For example, does the user who has this username appear to be active? If that user has not made any edits, you may have a chance with WP:USURP. To see all possibilities, go to: WP:EIW#Username. --Teratornis (talk) 06:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Need a little help customizing my signature
Hi guys, I need a little bit of help. Is it possible to make a signature, that's like fat in the middle and thin around the outside – like a roughly shaped oval ball? It dosent have to be very big but just like the size of a normal signature, just thin around the outside and fat in the middle.
Need a little help customizing my signature
So it’ll be like a normal signature (the user page bit and the talk bit) but the Username will be a little customized – the fat and thin bit. Thank you very much! Fattyjwoods (talk) 04:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
i need to apply for working visa in italy by useing www.interno.it, but the above website is in italian lanugage.how can i apply ? can i get a application in english ? my e.mail is <removed to protect privacy> , pls let me if u you guys know anything about it.
On behalf of whoever you might be thanking, I will say you are welcome. If there is some particular part of Wikipedia that you especially like, you may be able to identify the user(s) who worked on that part. See: Help:History and Help:Contributions. Then you can thank those users specifically on their talk pages, perhaps even giving them a barnstar. Another possibility is that you are thanking us for something we did not do - Wikipedia has 6,934,238 articles, on many different subjects, and some visitors mistakenly think Wikipedia is affiliated with the subject of our articles. --Teratornis (talk) 07:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Shan Foods (Pvt) Ltd, is the leading spice manafacture of Pakistan, Exporting to more than 56 coutries across globe.
Shan foods has the edge of delivering authentic eastern recipes cusine for our consumers around the world.
We would like to take the oppurtunity to add our website at your portal. When ever the member or no member search for recipes, spices, eastern foods, indian food.
We will also forward complete write up for our brand and products
See WP:CORP and Wikipedia:Business' FAQ for our guidelines on articles about corporations. WP:COI advises against writing about subjects you are personally involved with. However, you may write about your company on Wikicompany, which wants to have articles about every legally incorporated business in the world. Also, Wikipedia is a wiki rather than a forum, although some portions of Wikipedia function something like a forum (such as this Help desk). --Teratornis (talk) 07:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Help - none of my js is working anymore
Up until yesterday evening, I was wikiing happily along with things like Voice of All's script and Twinkle in my monobook.js. For no reason that I can fathom, at some point it all just stopped working. I've verified each script and sure enough, not a single one is functioning. I started with the normal clearing cache, trying a purge, checking that none of the scripts had been updated or moved, checking that other people weren't having the same problem -- nothing helped so I went so far as to completely remove firefox and java (including cleanup afterwards of the tidbits they leave around) and doing a fresh reinstall. That didn't change anything either. I've checked my settings in Firefox (v 2.0.11 btw), tried without any plugins installed to make sure something wasn't malfunctioning, checked preferences on Wikipedia to make sure there wasn't anything new I missed out on...
Ok, I figured out something I had forgotten. I logged in from a different computer and I'm still having the same problem, so its apparently not my laptop doing something funny. Just for fun I've tried IE7 too, though I know some of the scripts don't work there. :( Shellbabelfish10:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are at least two problems with your monobook.js that I can see; the category at the bottom wasn't commented out in JavaScript (I've fixed that for you), and you're trying to include a Special:Mypage subpage; I don't think that works (and I just tested it, and didn't get the results that would be expected if it did work), but I haven't fixed that as it shouldn't be causing the problem. Is anything working now? You could also try disabling the scripts one at a time to see if a change to any of those is causing the problem. --ais523 10:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Believe it or not your change made that special pages one start working again. :) Should have thought to test each by itself -- sure enough, twinkle by itself works, I'll test each and see if I can figure out where the problem is. Thank you so much! Shellbabelfish11:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Another hint that may help: on Firefox, typing javascript: into the address bar will pop up a dialog box showing you all the problems it's found with websites you've been browsing. This includes JavaScript errors; scroll right down to the bottom, as there are likely to be many irrelevant warnings (even Wikipedia causes a few) clogging it up. --ais523 11:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Search searches for the term you entered in the body of articles (and the search page gives more options for searching specific sections of Wikipedia). Go takes you to an article which matches the term you entered if one exists, or to a search results page if there is no exact match to an article title.--Kateshortforbob10:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Submitting an article for deletion / review
Could someone please look at my last few edits (about the Chris Moxon page, (which just seems like a vanity page that is only linked to the page of a local club he is a member of and his own user page. Even though I consider myself a strict inclusionist I found this to be a bit much. I wanted to do all the right things, inform Chris Moxon and make the little discussion group to argue over the article's merits, but every time I thought I was following directions something went wrong. So could an editor that really knows their stuff advise me or fix it? Obviously I am such an inclusionist I have never done this once since I first started editing in 2002. Thanks. Saudade712:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Apparently I nominated a non-existent template for deletion and not the article for which I tried to create a deletion template. Saudade712:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You've confused the Articles for deletion and Templates for deletion processes. You can submit an article for deletion by writing {{subst:afd}} (also known as {{subst:afd1}}) at the top of the article, and following the instructions at AfD in 3 steps from there. In cases of obviously deletable pages, the speedy deletion process is a lot more streamlined, so it's worth checking that first, but I don't quite think it applies here. I've reverted the mistakes you made trying to file the article for deletion, so you'll have a clean slate for your next try. Hope that helps! --ais523 12:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks ais523, I will give it another shot. I always have the hardest time finding the templates I need on here. When I do find the right page I "watch" it because I know otherwise I might never find it again! Thanks so much! (Also I didn't erase things myself because it seemed so deep in the system by then and also because I thought that maybe the templates needed time to magically cretaed some kind of network. Totally counter-intuitive to the way I know Wiki works, but...So thank's for the clean slate! Saudade712:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I share your pain. :) Have you considered creating a subpage or a section on your userpage to outline the templates you expect to use more frequently? I find mine essential. :D --Moonriddengirl(talk)12:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good idea Moonriddengirl, alas, each time I am doing something new! This is the first time I ever ran across something I thought should probably be deleted! Since 2002! (I was using that Random Article thing for the first time) alas. Thanks, Saudade715:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Template Help
I would like to add a new section to a template. The template is Template:South Carolina. I want to add Unincorporated areas. I tried to do this yesterday, but when I was done, the last section did not appear. The code for the last section was still there, it just did not appear when you viewed the template. When I was adding the new section I copied the code for the other section and changed the "Title#" and "body#" of the sections that came after the section so there were no same numbers. What did I do wrong? Can I added another section? Or is the number of sections allowed controlled by other template? (NOTE: I reverted my edit so that the template is back to where it was before I added the new section) Thanks Rocketmaniac (talk) 12:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at the {{US state navigation box}} and it said "There are a total of 7 group/list pairs, so you can use up to group7 and list7. Additional items can easily be added add to the template if needed." So, that is why I thought I could add another section. Thanks Rocketmaniac (talk) 13:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've just added a new article about a newspaper under The Journal (Edinburgh). At the moment, The Journal refers to the Canadian current affairs program, and it includes a disambiguation link to The Journal (newspaper). I'm trying to work out how to disambiguate these now that there's a new page; it seems the two options are changing either The Journal or The Journal (newspaper) to a disambiguation page, but I'm not sure what the best option is or exactly how to go about doing it (though I've read through WP:DAB). Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. Scottishmatt (talk) 13:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The current article at The Journal is a Canadian current affairs television program which ended in 1992 and is probably unknown in other countries. It doesn't need the main title so I would move it and create a disambiguation page for all articles there. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How do I publish my article?
Dear Sir/Madam,
I wrote an article in my account. It appears on "my talk", I saved the pages but I cannot see it on the wikipedia. It doesn't appear like an article. What is the problem?
As I happen to be knowledgeable in the subject, in the interests of journalistic fairness and balance yesterday I attempted to improve the Wiki article on clairvoyance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance, by adding three concise, well-referenced paragraphs, and three or four sentences, being careful not to delete any text by other editors. Then I left a message to that effect on the Discussion page. Today, however, I found that within one hour someone by the user name of Antelan deleted all my added material, and my Discussion page message, apparently by clicking on the Undo icon, while making such comments as "Must be kidding me" and "Weasel much?". This article is already preceded with the warning "Neutrality and factual accuracy of this article are disputed." Would someone be able to reinsert my material and place this article under closer supervision, or lock it from malicious deletions and valdalism, to allow me and other knowledgeable people who are in good faith to insert qualified text?RAmesbury (talk) 13:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't see where anyone wrote e.g. "weasel much?" I did look at your contributions and I think the problem is with the tone of your insertions. They seem to act rhetorically as a defence of the existence of clairvoyance rather than just an explaination of what clairvoyance is claimed to be. Hence it doesn't meet NPOV. You could say that "so and so makes claims for the existence of X with argument Y" But you can't say that "X exists because Y's argument against its existence is a bad one." Or, again, you cannot claim that lack of proof that something doesn't exist proves existence. I have no proof that Unicorns do not exist but that doesn't prove that they exist.
That said, I am not one of those Rational Skepticism deletists, I even defended the Mel's Hole article here. And it is true that the Wikipedia is about Verifiability and not about Truth. But I did think that your contributions were a little one-sided POV wise and needed to be cited with sources outside those making the claims.
But not to get discouraged! Just try to re-write so that you are not making a claim about whether or not clairvoyance exists, but just about the nature of experiements / research done on the subject. Good luck! Saudade719:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As someone who aspires to be a rational skeptic, or at least someone who tries to practice rationality in occasional short bursts, I'm wondering how a clairvoyant would need to ask questions on the Help desk. Perhaps I misunderstand what clairvoyance is all about, but doesn't it somehow involve a way to get answers to tough questions at much lower cost than answering questions by the tedious unglamorous ways? (E.g. the Scientific method, RTFM, etc.) Granted, this is no reason for User:Antelan to abbreviate WP:WEASEL into an overly terse comment such as "Weasel much?" which probably would require clairvoyance for someone new to Wikipedia to decode. --Teratornis (talk) 23:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ha ha! That's pretty funny Teratornis! But I don't think the OP was claiming to *be* clairvoyant! If s/he was, s/he'd be better off getting that fat check from the Amazing Randi! I'm all for rational skeptics, I just remember when there was a vigilante brigade of them on here trying to delete articles about paranormal subjects. That's no good because what if you are watching the The X-Files some night and don't know what a Chupacabra is!? I think that if the rational skeptics want to delete articles, they have to prove themselves able and gallant first by deleting the article for God. Slay that dragon and they can delete the Leprechauns after. Saudade703:20, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I need....
Can you create the Category 'Chinese mass murderers'??.... I have 8 of them and if I don't find Chinese mass murderers I will put them in Chinese serial killers.... and it isn't so.Thannks! Ahmed987147 (talk) 14:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC) .[reply]
I believe I once read somewhere in Wikipedia that the text of one Wikipedia article should not be used as a reference for another Wikipedia article. I've looked, but haven't found that Guideline or Policy. If it exists, can you direct me to it, or offer any "expert advice" on the issue? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonFB (talk • contribs) 17:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Clarification: What I said is completely right, not partially right. If you quote information from an article that is backed up by reliable in text citations then you can quote this fact in any article. Of course common sense dictates that you don't write/read an unsourced statement in one article and then quote the exact same unsourced statement in another article as a fact. This is what Wikipedia:V#SELF tries to avoid. On the other hand if you quote the definition of Engineering and the exact same definition is backed up by an inline citation to Britannica you can use this definition all across Wikipedia (always accompanied by the same in text citation leading to the Britannica source). Dr.K. (talk) 20:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Lynne Freed entry
1. The current entry for Lynn Freed has misspelled her first name. It should be Lynn Freed.
2. The content displayed under Lynn Freed should be in regular normal Wikipedia format, not in "stub" form.
Robert Kerwin
LYNN FREED
LYNN FREED was born and grew up in Durban, South Africa. She came to New York as a graduate student, receiving her M.A. and Ph.D. in English Literature from Columbia University.
Ms. Freed has published a collection of essay, READING, WRITING & LEAVING HOME: LIFE ON THE PAGE (Harcourt, 2005), a collection of stories, THE CURSE OF THE APPROPRIATE MAN (Harcourt, 2004), and five novels: HOUSE OF WOMEN (Little, Brown & Co., 2002), THE MIRROR (Crown Publishers, 1997), THE BUNGALOW (Poseidon/Simon & Schuster, 1993), HOME GROUND (William Heinemann Ltd., London; Summit Books/Simon & Schuster, 1986) and HEART CHANGE (New American Library, 1982; republished by Story Line Press in 2000 as FRIENDS OF THE FAMILY.) Five of her books have appeared on The New York Times "Notable Books of the Year" list.
Ms Freed's short fiction, memoirs and essays have appeared in The New Yorker, Harper's, The Atlantic Monthly, Southwest Review, The Georgia Review, the Michigan Quarterly Review, Tin House Magazine, The Santa Monica Review, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Newsday, Mirabella, Elle, House Beautiful, House & Garden, and Vogue, among others. Her stories have been recommended in Best American Short Stories (1992) and in The O’ Henry Awards: Prize Stories (2003). Her work is widely translated, and is included in a number of anthologies.
In 2002, Ms. Freed received the inaugural Katherine Anne Porter Award from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. She has received fellowships, grants and support from the National Endowment for the Arts, The Guggenheim Foundation, The Rockefeller Foundation, and the Lannan Foundation. In 1986, she won the Bay Area Book Reviewers' Award for Fiction for HOME GROUND. THE BUNGALOW, THE MIRROR and HOUSE OF WOMEN were nominated for the award. FRIENDS OF THE FAMILY was short-listed for the 2000 Western States Book Award.
Greetings, I have been using your encyclopedia on & off for a few years. I have been browsing the web for a long time. I have however, never done anything with a blog or any other such on-line posting. I want to add a citation to your article of tacticity, but I cannot figure out how to do it. I have searched for about 30 minutes, read many FAQs, tried to edit but was unsure how to add a citation, I AM LOST. here is my edit for the article on tacticity -a citation for isotactic polypropylene by the Ziegler Natta catalyst process - this is mentioned on P 63 of a book called Organic Polymer Chemistry, written by K. J. Saunders in 1973. I have the second edition (1988), published by Chapman & Hall, NY, New York. ISBN 0-412-27570-8.
I would think there are more than a few people in my shoes, those who are unfamiliar with uploading information onto the web. The whole process was confusing enough to make me want to give up. A set of simple instructions, tested by dummies like me, would be helpful to those who might wish to help improve the encyclopedia. Thanks for listening Richard Breakem (talk) 19:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. Have you been to Wikipedia:Citation templates? There are a number of templates there that you can insert into text to create a citation, and I think they're about as simple as it gets, but if things are still as clear as mud ask another question here or drop a note on my talk page and we'll see what we can do. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Dispute resolution with intransigent editors
I'm unsure of the next step to take in resolving a content dispute, and I'm hoping someone here can give me pointers. Briefly, the situation is this:
A content dispute arose over a linguistic issue, with two editors contesting some changes I made to an article. After some discussion, and before we got to examining the content in question, the two editors declared unwillingness to discuss the issue further. However, they continued to revert changes to the article. An RfC produced no input, and we're ineligible for WP:THIRD. Assuming they're unwilling to mediate, what's the next step? Thanks. Ilkali (talk) 20:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
note
you just sent me a conformation request in my <e-mail deleted for privacy> account. When I clicked on the sight location to conferm my registering,it failed to go through.I am comferming it here.
What web site did you sign up for an account with? This is the Help Desk of Wikipedia, and Wikipedia does not use email confirmation before you can use a new account. --teb728tc21:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your account has been created [9] and can be used for editing without email. Try copying the full confirmation URL from the mail to your browser address bar. Maybe your mail program split it in two lines. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On the left-hand side of any page (in the "toolbox", below the search box), there is a "printable version" link. It will bring up the text and images of the article only. NF24(radio me!)20:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contacting administrator using the talk: page
Hi,
Sorry to trouble you. I posted an article earlier which was deleted, and wished to discuss the reasons with the administrator. Afraid I'm having a little difficulty following the guidelines. I have located the talk: page for TeaDrinker, but cannot find an area where I can open a new discussion.
There are a number of topic 'conversations' on the page, with the 'edit' link at top right, but I'm wary of 'butting in' on another conversation.
Can you tell me the correct procedure to open the discussion please?
Sure go to the page, User talk:TeaDrinker and do one of two things: 1) click on the "+" sign at the top of the page (right next to "edit this page"), fill in a subject and then type your message below; hit save page; or 2) Go to the talk page, click on edit this page at the top; go to the very bottom of the page; place a subject name there and surround it with two equal signs on either side (like this: ==subject==), type your message below that, click save. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There has been some vandalism on my "My Page" page that doesn't show up in the editor. Someone has an issue with me, apparently, and decided the best way to discuss this issue was to put an anatomical picture that covers up my page. A sneaky way, and creative, since there isn't a direct trace, but apparently cowardly nonetheless.
I have previewed the page in the editing stage, and the picture does not show up.
Apparently cutting the code, saving, and repasting did the trick. Still curious about why there was no editing shown in putting it there in the first place. (Possible this was somebody's idea of a European regional flag?) --Paploo (talk) 00:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since it didn't show up in edit mode or in the page's history, this is likely the result of template vandalism—a template you have on your page that is transcluded was vandalized and what you saw was not targeted at you at all, but was seen in all places that template is used. It would disappear not because of any change you made to your page, but because the vandalism to the template was reverted.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) It sounds like somebody vandalized one of the images or templates on User:Paploo. It's unlikely it was aimed at you. Somebody must have reverted the vandalism elsewhere. Your blanking and reversion had no effect on the source since the diff shows no change. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's a few days that when I click on the signature tab or put four tildes at the end of my comments, my username (Omidinist) does not appear. Is there something wrong? Thanks.--217.11.17.251 (talk) 04:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You are not logged in with your account. Click "Log in" at the top right of the page, enter your username and password, and then you will be logged in. Cheers! Ariel♥Gold04:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh it’s working fine now. I deleted temp browser files and cleaned up browser cookies. resolved issue. but this this the first time I am facing like this.--Avinesh Jose (talk) 06:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
logging on
I tottally forgot my user name, and password. As such I cannot log in. I tried about seven differnt usernames and password, and I even ued the index card where I keep such information, anddifferent case sensetive ways of eritting it. Please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.206.21.124 (talk) 07:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you remember a page you have edited while logged in then you may be able to find your username by clicking "history" at the top and looking for your edit. If your account gave an e-mail address then you can click a button at login to e-mail a new password to it. If you are unable to access your old account then create a new. If you figure out your old username then you could write it on your new user page. Note that each Wikipedia language has separate accounts so a username from another language would not work. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
login problem
i cannot login or sign in your site by using my password
regards
Seyed Hasan Waheed
on page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulk_email_software
the user Kashirin seems to like only its company links and removes other companies links.
Tried to remove every link in the page to make it NPOW but he reverts.
Sorry to bug you guys. I recently added the Infobox user template to my User page. I'm curious what the "{{{data1}}}" codes are all about. I see similar ones on other templates. I've read some of the documentation and help pages, but I'm still confused. Please help. Thanks - NGC6254 (talk) 09:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As PrimeHunter mentioned, things in triple braces are arguments to templates. So if you called {{Infobox user|data1=Hello world!}}, then {{{data1}}} would show "Hello world!".
Part of your problem might be that you subst'ed the template into the page, rather than just putting {{Infobox user}} in with some arguments, which might have been clearer to you. If you look at any article with an infobox on, you should be able to see what I mean. What you prolly want to do is add something like this:
{{Infobox user
| name = John Doe
| image = NGC6254 WikiUser.jpg
| caption = My mugshot
| pictures = 50
| pages = 800
| status = Active Wikipedian
| hobbies = Webmaster for [http://www.sealth85.com/ sealth85.com], [[photography]], [[astronomy]], [[karaoke]], [[chess]] and almost anything that ends in "[[-ology]]"
| reading = [[Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]]
}}
, which would imply you've uploaded 50 images and made 800 pages, giving you a userbox like the one to the right here:
(Note I've changed the template some, partly to give the arguments more meaningful names, hence none of them is called {{{data1}}} in my example.)
Gimme a yell if you need any further help (though if you specifically want my help, please post to my talk page, as I might not notice an update here.
(edit conflict) I don't know a good way. A problematic way is to create an image and insert it in the cell. I just made Image:Dimensionality of Organic.png and here it is in the table:
Classification of hybrid materials based on dimensionality [1]
I want to add an image to an existing page (Mikhail Prokhorov). I have successfully uploaded the image onto the site but I don't know how to get it onto the page I want it to be on.
Please advise
RLFPartnership (talk) 12:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your account has no sandbox edits so I cannot see what went wrong. See Help:Images and other uploaded files. You can upload a new logo (if it isn't uploaded already) to a new file name, and click "edit this page" at International Boxing Association. Or you can try to replace the existing logo at Image:Aiba logo.JPG. Come back if you still have problems, and try to be more specific about the problem. If you give a link to the logo and possibly copyright information for it then maybe somebody else will upload and add it for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll reply anyway. You have to transclude the entry on today's list by enclosing the entire name of the nomination page in template brackets, like this: {{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rayuan Pulau Kelapa}}. Certain automated scripts like Twinkle will do this for you. Hersfold(t/a/c)15:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot for your relply. In fact, I thought I had done just that! However, I will be very careful in the future, and certainly bear your advice in mind. Bessel Dekker (talk) 15:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, i recently started making the Barry hawkes page, and then Movedgood renamed it to Barry Hawkes, which i was trying to do. So i then tried to delete the old page but im sure how that can be done as im new to this. Both pages are the same but the good one is the one called Barry Hawkes. If you could help me i would be very grateful. thanks lee —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leeironmonger1987 (talk • contribs) 15:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I know that you explain how to post on wikipedia but It was unclear on how to directly do it. If you could help me that would be great. I am trying to put a form of core exercise on here called core fusion. It is trademarked but I dont see any reaosn why it shouldnt be on wikipedia. It deserves to be on here!! If you could ust explain step by step to me how to do it that would help me out tremendously.
thank you,
I would like to contribute my theory about creation on the first page
Here is a summery of my book
Mr. Travis Smiley and associates, I am a Black author from Indianapolis, Indiana. I have spent the last seven years doing research about the first book of the bible, Genesis. I have composed a substantial amount of evidence to support the fact that Genesis is the true story of an ancient African Ruler in Ethiopia.
The book of Genesis has been retranslated by the controversial Black author Kevin A. Lee. Kevin uses dictionaries from over one hundred years old and from over seas to destroy what he calls lies and deception. He states that Genesis was indeed the story of an ancient African Ruler who built a historical dam in order to feed a nation in a time of famine. It was a worthless piece of land, equivalent to a dry desert. The dam miraculously turned the dry land into a farm equipped with a high tech irrigation system that later became known as the Garden of Eden.
Mr. Lee also states this wonderful story never would have been told had not he discovered who wrote the book of Genesis and his purpose. This dam was not only used to feed a nation, it was also used to control the only world in which they lived. You see, this dam sent water down four rivers; one of them was the Nile. The Rulers famous saying was, “Whosoever controls the water rules the world.”
In Mr. Lee’s book, he states that Genesis was written by Joseph, son of Abraham. He makes this claim based on the reoccurring ending of old testament books of the bible; the person who dies at the end of the Hebrew books were usually the author. Joseph died at the end of Genesis.
The story begins with Joseph running for a political office to become the second head of Egypt. He is soon placed in prison when his opponents reveal his adulterous sins as an adolescent. On the witness stand Joseph diverts the conversation and testifies about his greatest ancestor who was considered a god and how he turned a dry wasted desert into a wonderful paradise called, The Garden of Eden. This story fascinated the King of Egypt because famine plagued the land. Joseph then took seven days to tell this story, knowing the laws stated that any perpetrator who remains free for seven days was a free man. Here Joseph makes plans to not only escape the charges against him; he secretly orchestrated a plan to become elected the second head of Egypt. Mr. Lee states in his book that it did not take seven days to create the world, it took seven days for Joseph to tell the story you are about to hear.
On the first day of creation, the bible said God created heaven, earth and light. Mr. Lee says that earth could not have been created because the word earth back then was defined as topsoil, otherwise dust, dirt or mud. Heaven could not have been created because back then the word heaven was defined as up or something far away. Mr. Lee says that Joseph was narrating the book of Genesis and in this introduction he was giving credit to whom credit is due. Mr. Lee said the ruler started a fire on the mountain to call thousands of workers to build a dam to reserve water for the dry season. The fire was on the side of a mountain could be seen for miles.
On the second day the bible said God separated the water above from the water below with a firmament. In the book Joseph tells the king of Egypt and the senate that the water above was separated from the water below with a firmament, which Mr. Lee believes was in all reality a dam.
On the third day the bible said God made grass and the trees. Mr. Lee said Joseph was telling the King of Egypt and the senate how the dam made it possible to grow fruit trees and a garden that before now they could never grow due to a lack of a continuous supply of water.
On the fourth day the bible said God made the two lights. Mr. Lee states that Joseph was explaining time and how they used the stars, sun and moon to tell the seasons. Joseph said the celestial bodies were the time clock in the sky was used to tell them when to plant seeds and when to harvest. Mr. Lee also states that the light on the mountain was used as a warning system for invading armies that may want to invade the land for food and water.
On the fifth day the bible said God created animals. Mr. Lee believes that Joseph told the King of Egypt the predicament of having a garden was all the birds and animals that came from the wilderness to eat the food in their garden. The wild animals also ate the fish in the streams for food.
On the sixth day the bible said God created humans, both male and female. Mr. Lee states that Joseph was simply telling the King of Egypt that the solution to the problem of the birds and animals eating their garden was scarecrows. So they reached into the ground to pick up sticks, sand and clay to build statues of people to scare away the animals. The statues were scarecrows in the garden. They also built beautiful statues of females to make their garden beautiful.
On the seventh day the bible said God rested. Mr. Lee states Joseph was the one that rested, knowing the laws his plan worked well. Joseph had been out of the dungeon for seven days. Never again would he have to endure the dungeon full of dead bodies, rats and snakes again. On the seventh day Joseph was elected second head of Egypt, the only person Joseph bowed to was the King himself. Dressed in royalty, Joseph was endowed with titles magnifying his deity. If that did not make for a good ending, Joseph also got the girl.
For thousands of years this story was told around the world in all language, by word of mouth. When it was made possible to record this story, the myths of Egypt and other countries destroyed the truth, definition of words changed, and the story was lost forever. Now after seven thousand years, the memories of a dead Ruler has resurrected. What you are about to read is the true account of what occurred in a garden called Eden.
Now without further ado I give this book to the world free of charge. Log on to www.damcreation.com and read the most powerful story on earth from beginning to end.
If you have comments you can reach Mr. Lee at klee@damcreation.com
Thank You,
Kevin A. Lee
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Done I think? :) Regards, — Rudget speak.work 19:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
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