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  • /Archive:West Indies (21 November 2004 - 14 April 2006) archive of several past discussions on Talk:African American about people in the U.S. of African ancestry via the West Indies and whether the label "African American" would apply to them
  • /Archive:White South Africans (creation - 21 January 2005) archive of several past discussions on Talk:African American about White South Africans on and whether the label "African American" would apply to them
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Regions of significant population

The info on this table (on the right of the page) seems misleading - yes, most African Americans live in the South, but there are substantial populations in urban areas in the Northeast, Midwest and West. The fact that they are concentrated in urban areas in those regions doesn't mean they are not significant in those regions.--Parkwells (talk) 01:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

White African Americans

Why aren't there references to White African Americans...I mean what is the South African portion of Americans that are white classified? South African Americans? Blacks are negros..that isn't offensive- since when is Black or White racist? Im called white I am not offended. Add South African Americans or South Africans who live in America to the list of peoples. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.166.108.50 (talk) 16:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of what you call them, this article is about African Americans who are descendants of free Negros and slaves. The title of the article is African American because that's the most common name used in the United States. The article African immigration to the United States is about more recent African immigrants. That's the agreed upon but still contentious breakdown. CJ (talk) 20:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the intromission, but in my objective look over the theme, i think the difference between "afroamerican people" and "white people" is pure politic tube-looking. The thing is that you have to look around and to not see black and white; take a look around and see that the things, the people, the plants and the animals have many colours and the colour is irrelevant on what they are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.166.108.50 (talk)

Well think what you like but there are differences. They exist in shared historical and cultural experiences. To deny that is the same as trying to say that we're all clones of one another. Identifying a historical or cultural distinction is only a division if you make it one. It's easy to be "colorblind" if you're pretending that everyone is the same. It's much harder to be multicultural and accept everyone for who they are without making them be you. But unless you have a suggestion for improving this article this topic is over.CJ (talk) 17:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is a response to the first commenter who wanted to be anonymous. There is nothing offensive about the term black. I'm black and proud. The term negro is offensive and no longer used. If you or anybody else, regardless of race, called me a negro, you will have a bloody lip and a black eye. The term African American applies to American blacks, like me, who are descendants of freed black American slaves or American slavery. If you don't want to use it, fine. But don't tell people what they should or should not be called. Now, a person's nationality refers to there country/nation of origin/birth. Africa is a continent, not a country/nation, just like Europe is a continent, not a country/nation. American is my nationality because I was born, raised, and bred in the United States of America. A person (white or black) from South Africa, a country/nation, is South African. That's there nationality. I could go on, but I don't have time to educate dumb people. Have a nice day. Fclass (talk) 21:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

I noticed that all six of the people in the picture were political activists. Do you think that is a good thing? Steve Dufour (talk) 12:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you suggesting that all African-Americans aren't political activists?!? Brooke was a politician, not an activist, but you raise a good point. I'm not sure whether this or Template talk:African American ethnicity is the appropriate forum for this discussion, but we should try to balance the photos. There has been a similar discussion at Template talk:Infobox Jew#Emma Lazarus v Rabbi Lau; that template has four photos: two women and two men; a rabbi, a political leader, a scientist, and a poet. We might want to consider the same concept: African-Americans from all fields, not just the political. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 21:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'd like to nominate Stevie Wonder. :-) Steve Dufour (talk) 03:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All black people in america are not african americans

Identity is everything. Without it one ceases to exit. It seems to be a popular thing now days to be called an african american, when not long ago, all of the other factions of the black race all over the globe didn't even want to be associated with the term african american, or negro. Now the the term is used loosely to describe any, and every black person that sets foot here in america, distorting and stripping us african americans of what little identity we do have. So, this is to set the record straight. I can't help but be passionate about this issue, my ancestors were "ENSLAVED" in "THIS" country. They fought and died in "THIS" country trying to protect, and preserve what little identity they had left after having most of it beat out of them. Thus trying to set up a system where our future generations would be proudly recognized with our own unique identity. "MY" ancestors fought for civil rights in this country, that other blacks from all across the globe come here to enjoy, without giving any respect or thanks. ie, west indies, africa, south america etc. All black people in america are not african americans. An african american is a person who's "FAMILY" ancestors were enslaved, and suffered through that slavery here in america. Not in jamaica, or trinidad, etc. The term african american comes from a long lineage of ugly muttated descriptions attributed to the slave and their ancestry here in america. We've come a long way From being known as coons, niggas, jiggaboos, monkeys, etc. Anything that one could think of that was bad or negative, that's what we were called in this country. My ancestors fought, fought, fought, fought, and shed their blood, and gave their lives, for the right to be called AFRICAN AMERICAN. That is why those of us who are african americans should always be passionately selfish when it comes to our identity, our culture, and traditions protecting and guarding it with our very lives,and never letting anyone, anywhere define, or defile it. Identity is everything, without it one don't exist. Therefore, I am proud to say, I am "AFRICAN AMERICAN". Who are you? James jr.24.47.233.26 (talk) 05:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]