Talk:Microsoft Minesweeper

The content of this article was split from Minesweeper_(computer_game)#Windows. Darksun 15:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Board IS Generated Before First Click

(Note: Refers to XP SP2 version, I can't comment on other builds) If you attach to the game with a debugger and watch the memory where the board is saved you see that the mines are placed in new random positions every time the program starts, the smiley face button is pressed, or the difficulty is changed. If you click on one of the mines as your first click, a new mine is placed somewhere else and the square you clicked on is treated as if it were not a mine. So it's true that you can't lose on the first click, but it is technically inaccurate to claim that the board is not generated until the first click. Latkin 07:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative cheat code

xyzzy <ENTER>,<SHIFT> or xyzzy <SHIFT>,<ENTER> also works. It's for a long time as far as I remember. --Apoc2400 19:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure? When I try it nothing special happens! 99.230.152.143 (talk) 14:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It works for me on Windows XP SP2. At first, I thought it was the pixel in the game window. It's actually the top left pixel of your monitor. Which is kind of strange... 72.226.136.116 (talk) 22:55, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oberon = Bogus

I'm removing the claim that the game is being developped by "Oberon", because it feels bogus:

safe from minor details, the game development has been freezed from eons now, so why would MS delegate development to another company;
a company called Oberon is actually selling a "minesweeper-like" game (see below); "like" imples "not the same";
google "minesweeper oberon" yields nothing relevant; first results are:
- this wikipedia article
- "Betrapped", a "minesweeper game by Oberon Media", unrelated (only remotely "minesweeper-like")
- "oberon system 3 games" (where Oberon is an O.S.)
- (followed by other Oberon-OS-related links)
my XP version makes no mention of "Oberon Software" in its about box
there is no Minesweeper clone in Oberon Games's catalog

and there was no reference given in the article to support the claim.

--FvdP 19:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The version of Minesweeper included in Windows Vista was developed by Oberon Games. Themodernizer 21:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where is there evidence for that ? Does the Vista version of Minesweeper mention it ? --FvdP 22:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, after a bit of searching I've found this (search for "MineSweeper"). --FvdP 23:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Minimal size is 9x9

I just observed that the minimal size is 9x9 on XP. This probably means that:

the beginners board is 9x9 instead of 8x8 for (mostly) that very reason, other reasons being secundary;
the probable one real reason for the minimal size change is that Windows controls changed and the minimal size had to be increased to accomodate them;
most other proposed reasons for the 9x9 beginners board are irrelevant.

If other people could confirm that the minimal size is 9x9 since W2000 onward, we could edit the article to reflect these new conclusions.

--FvdP (talk) 19:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

...but it might be the other way round (minimum size increased so as not to be smaller than beginner size), only Microsoft insiders could definitely tell... --FvdP (talk) 19:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]