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December 27

Template:Sudetenland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete. Extremely divisive and non-NPOV template created for unkown purposes. No one denies the fact that the area of Sudetenland was inhabited mainly by the German population and no one tries to whitewash it. Problem is the template includes almost only the articles relating to World War II and also shows a Nazi swastika. User who created it adds this template to articles about towns and villages of that region. Well, there were hundreds of municipalities in that area, it is then pointless to add it to every single one. Inclusion of all municipalities to this template isn't also possible, it would create a monstrous template. I believe this template may be changed somewhat but in its current state and behaviour of its creator it should be deleted. — Darwinek (talk) 13:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, I definitely agree, it brings nothing less than a hot blood and extremely controversial content-disputes. Its placement into the current towns and villages, historical persons in the area of the Czech Republic with all its flags and historical background of this region is very frustrating. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 13:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. JPG-GR (talk) 18:05, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, as creator. And what does "behaviour of its creator" suppose to mean? WP:NPA! This template serves the purpose to raise awareness of the history of the Sudetenland which "No one denies" and "no one tries to whitewash" - apart from trying to get the template deleted, that is. Its use reduces the need to repeat the same phrases in countless articles on places, persons, events. The content of the template, articles, flags etc. can be discussed, its in need of improvement anyway, as I've set it up quickly. Its helpfulness in general is self-evident, I'm tired of stating the same over and over again when a template can easily present an overview. -- Matthead  DisOuß   01:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is a region that no longer exists. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 01:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Centuries of history still exist, buildings still exist, etc. -- Matthead  DisOuß   10:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete-placing Nazi flag all over Czech towns, and placing template with German nationalist and Nazi claims over modern Czech Republic seems disruptive.--Molobo (talk) 01:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - there are POV issues with this template, and particularly with its current usage. It could possibly be used as a navigation template between articles about the history of this area, but adding it to every geographical location in the area is definitely a bad idea, and it looks like that's its main purpose. Terraxos (talk) 05:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If there are issues with this template, they should be discussed, with good arguments other than WP:IDONTLIKEIT. I've already altered it significantly, and there's more constructive work needed, not destructive deletion. Regarding the use, there are countless templates describing something "former" or "historical", e.g. Template:Ukrainian historical regions, Template:Romanian historical regions, or Template:Former German colonies, which can be found on dozen of articles all over the world (e.g. Tanzania), and these were only colonies for decades, not integral part of German settlement and states for centuries, until a sudden end in 1945. I do not plan to stick it on every village, but it should be found on relevant pages, and it is vital for articles covering historical context. -- Matthead  DisOuß   10:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And how are Volksdeutsche and Ústí massacre connected to Klinovec? This is an extreme form of POV pushing. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 10:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also it is not true that sudetenland was only german-speaking area. There were Czechs in huge numbers too. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 10:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Template:User Australia1 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) unused template, the creator agrees[1]. VartanM (talk) 09:03, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Template:User blank-10 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Unused template. — 172.134.115.82 (talk) 03:39, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Doesn't matter, as the template should be substituted in the creation of a new userbox. There shouldn't be a level 10 for languages, and this may still be used for other purposes, but there are more generic ways to create a userbox with these colours. –Pomte 15:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Outside of current scheme of UBX for this type. Use as a "template" for userbox creation is unnecessary in this form. JPG-GR (talk) 18:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Template:St. Thomas roads (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is not necessary, is a large template, and there is a precedent to delete these, as seen at WP:USRD/P. — Rschen7754 (T C) 00:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]