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Purge the cache to refresh this page Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For information on retitling files, categories, and other items, see § When not to use this page.

Before moving a page or requesting a move, please review the article titling policy and the guidelines on primary topics.

Any autoconfirmed user can move a page using the "Move" option in the editing toolbar; see how to move a page for more information. If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. In such cases, see § Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
  • A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
  • Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are typically processed after seven days. If consensus supports the move at or after this time, a reviewer will perform it. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved." When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time, or closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.

If you object to a proposal listed here, please relist it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

Incomplete and contested proposals

Yes, but did it cease to be indep., I'm not convinced it did...--Counter-revolutionary (talk) 23:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I guess it depends on whether it was still considered an independant and sovereign state when it became a British protectorate in 1888. I don't know enough about British law to determine that. TJ Spyke 00:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support: I would prefer it to to read Charles Brooke, Rajah of Sarawak, which would be absolutely correct. No-one would ever go to an encyclopaedia seeking Charles Anthony Johnson Brooke. This one of the many problems with Wikipedia. The politically correct are keeping it from being user-friendly. As for protectorates, nominally the country is still independent, but 'accepting' the protection of another country which, in return, has a certain amount of sway in the protectorate. Egypt, for instance, was a British Protectorate until Nasser, but remained an 'independent' kingdom with an enthoned monarch. Christchurch (talk) 15:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's certainly an accurate summation. --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 15:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Christchurch's solution seems reasonable. Orderinchaos 13:01, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other proposals

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  • Did the Admin. advise you to ignore proceedure for contested moves , ignore aquiring a consenses on the articles talk page from all involved ?? ........ for some reason I thought all the rules and guides that are written about Wiki. proceedures were meant to be followed by taking appropriate steps , not to simply make your own rules and blaze new trails ........ Pilotwingz (talk) 04:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Dreamafter 16:26, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Duchy of OświęcimDuchy of Auschwitz —(Discuss)— Google Scholar and Google Book Searches of "Duchy of Auschwitz" -wikipedia, "Duchy of Oświęcim" -wikipedia, and "Duchy of Oswiecim" -wikipedia clearly show that "Duchy of Auschwitz" is the form most commonly used in English scholarly literature. Auschwitz is also the historical English name for the entity and it doesn't matter if it is the same as the German name, it is the English form nonetheless. Polonization is just as bad as Germanization for English Wikipedia and Auschwitz is just as English as it is German. Same cannot be said for Oświęcim. The page was moved back to the Polish, non-English name on the "belief" of an administrator who always does this. —Charles 02:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed.

  • Plame affairCIA leak scandal — Move to the (previous) name consistent with CIA leak scandal timeline (renamed from Plame affair timeline earlier and redirected): for both consistency in Wikipedia and for greater neutrality: please see previous discussions (highly controversial) of earlier requests for the same or similar name changes via Talk: Plame affair and its archived discussions; there appear to have been more editors supporting the move earlier than a summary of the earlier discussion (in green) suggests. Since previous move request was acted on (May 2007), there have been additional editors calling for this name change and continuing editing disputes concerning the article (lack of neutrality, length, number of quotations, need for splitting and/or merging w/ other existing articles, and so on). --NYScholar (talk) 23:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I feel strongly that the Ta-Hia page should be moved to Daxia and appropriate adjustments made throughout the article (which I am happy to do - if you wish), for the following reasons: Daxia is the proper spelling according to the Pinyin system of romanising Chinese - the system used by far more people today than any other - including just about everyone in mainland China and people studying Chinese today. It has also become the standard for articles in the Wikipedia (often with the Wade-Giles version included as an alternative). Ta-hsia is the name according to the Wade-Giles system which is an old English system still in use in Taiwan and by older Western scholars, while Ta-hia is from the French E.F.E.O. system and, therefore, not appropriate at all in an English-language article (and even in that system "Ta-Hia" is incorrect). A link to the Daxia River can be inserted at the top of the page. By the way - this article used to be listed under Daxia - but was moved to its present position under the old French name. Also note the present Talk page is still headed with Daxia (Talk:Ta-hsia) - as it was before the move. John Hill (talk) 22:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dari (Persian)Eastern Farsi —(Discuss)— Proposed move was because of ambiguity problems with Dari (Afghanistan). Moving to the name that linguists use for the language might help get away from those problems. Unfortunately, instead of discussing the move, an editor simply moved it to Dari (Persian) which introduces new ambiguities. There is an RFC begun on 25 Nov 2007, consensus seems unlikely. Admin supervision seems indicated. —Bejnar (talk) 05:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]