Talk:Tales (video game series)

ToS2: Other Games?

Why has the sequel to Tales of Symphonia: Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk been moved to "Other Games"? Isn't it apart of the Main series, if it's a direct sequel to ToS, then technicially it should, since ToS was apart of the main series, be apart of the main Series?

I was wondering about its classification too. It hasn't been confirmed as main or spin-off so until that time, it should be assumed as main.

What the bloody **** do you mean?! It hasn't been "confirmed". The NAMCO Tales Channel clearly stated that it's a sequel, plus look at the plot, it takes two years after the game, and Kratos is gone, the other characters are back, etc, etc...

Hell, of course it's a main game! Unless some new info comes out that for some odd reason states that it is not, it should be in the main game section.

Yeah, someone put it into a spinoff again, so I'll just go ahead and put it back, k'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.243.126.208 (talk) 15:09, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Game themes

I think this page should summarize the usual themes used within the Tales series, such as the discrimination against half-elves, ambuigity, and all of the mythology it normally draws inspiritation from.

Page Reorganization

I would like to overhaul this page. Much of the discussion about the battle system ought to be on the dedicated Linear Motion Battle System page, while the battle system description here will be reduced to a generic description. In its place there should be a description of the general concept and typical attributes of Tales games (may include details of evolution). Also the games list will be extended with the full release dates (what date scheme should I use? yyyy-mm-dd?) and the developers. Any objections? 82.135.65.150 14:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Whether it was you or not, the page was "overhaul"ed. I think it looks great, but where's Sword of Legendia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.243.126.208 (talk) 17:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I was the one who reorganized the game list, I had always thought that the one from Japanese Wikipedia looked great, and had much more information, so I went ahead and copied the code for the game list from Japanese Wikipedia, and translated it to English. I also added in the "Regions" section myself to show which regions the games were released in. As for Sword of Legendia, as far as I know Namco still hasn't released any information, or even officially stated whether or not it's part of the Tales series. The Tales series Navigation Box doesn't include it, nor does Japanese Wikipedia's game list or Navigation Box, and Namco's Tales Channel doesn't even list it, so I decided not to re-add it to the game list until Namco releases more information. But, if you want me to re-add it, I could put it at the bottom of the list, with a note next to it, saying that it hasn't been officially confirmed to be part of the Tales series yet. Aoimusha (talk) 05:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay I like to know how everyone is deciding what is part of the Main series or independant. I'm not understanding the logic of calling Tempest on it's own just because it has it's own 'world' unique from the rest of the games. Uh, most of the games are like that. --74.132.94.122 (talk) 17:14, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Because Tales series producer Makoto Yoshizumi changed Tales of the Tempest's status to Escort Title, and decided that the first Mothership Title for the Nintendo DS should be Tales of Innocence instead. http://touch-ds.jp/crv/vol7/005.html (In Japanese)
He stated that all the main games at that time upto Tales of the Abyss would stay Mothership Titles, Tales of the Tempest would be changed to an Escort Title, and Tales of Innocence would be a Mothership Title. However he made no mention of Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk in either way.
It's exclusion from the titles he listed could mean that it's an Escort Title, but since Namco hasn't officially stated it's status, there's still the possibility it's a Mothership Title, time will tell which one it is. Aoimusha (talk) 05:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Concerning Sword of Legendia, I believe there should be at least a note of it, since there is a decent probability that it is related to Tales of Legendia. I, however, am far too newbish to make a change like that without ruining the entire page, so I, (and probably others,) would appreciate it if someone can put that in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.243.126.208 (talk) 22:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Older Discussion

What about the Narikiri Dungeon games for "Tales of the World"? The first was a GB game.. it was kinda weak, IMO. But ND2 (for the GBA) had most of the party characters from ToP/ToE and I think ToD (haven't played this, so I'm not sure) making cameo appearances... I think it was somewhere about 20 or 25 different characters in total.

Since the game was based on collecting different suits to turn into different characters (think transformation masks in LoZ:Majora's Mask.. there were approx 200 suits, "gotta catch 'em all"-style), and you could earn the suits of all the cameos and play as them (the battle music even changed to the same as from the game the character came form, and you got to use their trademark moves).

Those games should be added to this list, but I don't really know their release dates or much about them (I had to play only a partially-translated ND2, but it still quite fun; recommended). alexpenev 13:49, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I've added those games, but they go in the Spin off group. As I don't have much information about these games, I can't really add anything more than the titles and dates. Its unlikely that English wikipedia pages for all the games would be created or have enough information in them to justify creating them. I was wondering though about the italics. Why was that added? I'm sure its some thing that you do in writing, but I just don't know. (Edit 2: found out why it's done - hurrah)

Sometime, I'll be adding more information about the series in general and hopefully to get big enough for an automatic Table of Contents and to justify removing the stub :) (Edit: Sorry for not signing this.. just found out now how to :P) PKFC

So I put in tables because I don't know how to indent... With Wiki code, I don't think tables are that complicated or bloated in the entry's text. I figure <nowiki>s and &nbsp;s are more complicated than the tables... But I'm a bad person for not knowing how to indent. If you feel up to the task of improving the page, go for it. :P PKFC 12:31, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

So March 3 is the release date for the Eternia PSP port and Tales of Legendia IS Tales of Melfes. First dawned on me when reading magic-box's summary talking about an ancient race in Legendia called Melfes and confirmed it elsewhere. The PSP preorder disc that came with Rebirth was just an ad for a PS2 game, not for a PSP game :P PKFC 00:36, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Symphonia is missing from the "Tales series" navigation menu at the bottom of this page and all of the individual games' pages.

Tales Popularity

When it says that it is among the top 5 most popular games in Japan, where exactly do you get that information from? Can we cite a source here please?

- not "top 5 games", "top 5 RPG series". If you count the number of RPG series there are, it is sort of logical that it must be within the top 5, since there are not that many RPG series that are that long-running (Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Shin Megami Tensei come to mind). It's sort of logical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.166.214.136 (talk) 16:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Story line

I added a new section of the story line of Tales. I've never played this game before, so it would be nice if someone checked it for accuracy and completeness. I would really like this article to include information on how the stories are related. I came to this article wanting to know how related the stories of the games are so I would know whether or not it's important to play them in any particular order. 69.92.144.74 15:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I just finished Tales of the Abyss and there are numerous refrences to the planet it is on is Aselia. Would someone investigate this it might be between symphonia and phantasia because the latest date is n.d. 2017 if i remember correctly. Alice 03.14.07 9:09

What? Abyss is NOT related to Phantasia/Symphonia in any way. There aren't any hints that it takes place on Aselia at all! Especially considering the planet is named Auldrant... -Kawnhr 10:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

How in the world could ANYONE think it was related to the Aselia universe!//// It clearly states multiple times that the planet is named "Auldrant". Now let's stop imagining stupid nonexistant "references". Not only this, but Abyss STARTS in n.d. 2017, it ends in n.d. 2020. That means 2020 years after the dawn age, a.k.a. when Yulia raised the outerlands. In the Aselian calender, 2020 would be 2020 years after the combining of the worlds. Unless, of course, your saying that Yulia existed when the Great Karlahn War happened and raised the outer lands before Mithos split the world?//// How can anyone be so idiotic??....

Recurrence, we can make a better job than that

For example, the repetitive use of Nordic Mythology Names.

Slash/Trust: I dont have a source, but does anyone knows of any other game that implements this feature? i think ToP might have been the first.

Cooking Skills: There's always a character that sucks at cooking so badly the main character almost literally dies, and one wich is extremelly good at cooking, and often adds more bonuses at cooking than the rest.

Personalities: Recicled personalities, thought more than slightly reformated each time, for example Raine-Kurtis, in a skit Kurtis claims (on a side note) that he doesnt believes in reincarnation, being obviously a joke about how extremelly similar each character in the Tales Series is to one another.

Elfs: Like in most rpgs that intend in providing a small depth into the cultures inside themselves. The Tales Series's Elfs are a racist race, blindly believing in their superiority above the human race, and calling humans selfish while secluding themselves...

Acients: Trought the series there are many mentions and appearances of ancient tecnology, of civilisations/races long past gone, examples are time travel machines, flying crafts, magical devices or magically fueled machinery.

Tecnology?: A Weird mix of magic and tecnology, where instead of normal fuels, magic is used to fuel machinery, and due to this there never are any aircraft no matter how advanced, except those left behind by ancient civilisations.

I mean come on! there are many more recurrances to the tale series. >3<

(of wich i thought btw that airfread was useless to mention, and maybe one or two more) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Klyern (talk • contribs) 13:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

I think the Thrust/Slash thing refers to the sword motions, not the stats in ToP. - Alex 'phoenix' Wing 15:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Help

I'm new at this editing thing, and I just wanted to update the dates of the Tales of Symphonia: OVA releases, and put it in the Spin-off section, since it technically is out. But I kinda screwed the page up, so could someone fix it, I'm a noob, and I'm sorry, but I didn't mean to.

Aselia is wrong.

I'm surprised no one noticed this but the ToS, ToP, ToP:ND and TotW:SL world is not Aselia but is Aseria. (officially confirmed in the English ToP OVA) I realize most people are more familiar with the "fanslation" Aselia but shouldn't Wikipedia be more about accuracy than recognization? I think it should be changed to its official English name.

Both are correct translations, so we will most likely have to wait for ToS:KoR to get the final say on the matter.--Drkirby (talk) 18:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Is an OVA considered the "official English name" when the OVA itself isn't even canon to the games? I've seen several instances where OVAs based on video games can have different spellings or pronunciations for characters and places simply because two different teams are handling the localizations and have nothing to do with each other.--Claude (talk) 07:06, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the previous statement for the sole reason of thinking that aselia sounds cooler than aseria