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Mass Deletion of articles for each indivual book

As a fan of the series from the past, I intend to fill in a lot of the pages with meaningful content. Right now, I am in the process of adding pictures of book covers as well as infoboxes to the books that I've owned since childhood. Eventually, I plan on re-reading the books and adding summaries to their prospective pages. My personal collection is limited to 26 books from the original series. If anyone else has information regarding these books that they'd like to add, I would encourage the use of the infobox book template. I have already completed the infobox for the first book in the series, Welcome To Dead House. I agree that some of the articles seem pointless, but this page would be far too long if summaries would be placed here. For the time being, I will concentrate on expanding the pages of the individual books. --Ravensfan5252 19:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the hard work, Raven. For the record, I think it'd be better for a scan or Amazon picture rather than a photograph.--CyberGhostface 20:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Me too, i have almost ALL the books i only need like 5 more to complete the first series that ran from 1992 to 1998 Ace Fighter.

I'll help you add the infoboxes and templates. Ok? Shindo9 Hikaru 22:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

well guys i have all of em so if u need help just leave a message and ill see if i can look it up.I am Paranoid 19:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, some of the book's articles are really short. Useight 16:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about the ghostwritten ones?

Is there a list of the ghostwritten ones? --mwazzap 02:40, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vague line

Some consider it the Harry Potter of the early 1990s. Who said that? I don't see how it resembles Harry Potter in any way. It wasn't near as popular (I know several other equally popular kids shows from the early 90's) and it was another genre, and another medium. Can someone clarify? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 15:27, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)

It was a series of books and its genre is essentially the same (fantastic fiction).

The line probably relates Goosebumps to Harry Potter's popularity and controversy. The Goosebumps series wasn't as popular, but kids in the United States really soaked them up. I remember my teacher (and others at my school) discouraged/banned them from reading assignments because these were the only books some kids would read. Similarly to Harry Potter, many bans were probably related to its subject matter. --Mrwojo 14:09, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Still it seems odd to compare it to Harry Potter when it has had nowhere near the impact as HP did. Besides, "Some" isn't really a reliable source. Does anyone have a suggestion for a somewhat more accurate line that could describe its popularity. We might want to add that it was primarily popular in the US, for example, although the TV show is quite popular in the Netherlands and Belgium. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 16:48, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

True; it should probably be removed unless fixed. The assertion that it's like HP must be more specific and should be supported by facts instead of weasel words. --Mrwojo 23:02, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Come on! "Goosebumps" was in the Guinness Book of World Records for the best selling children's series of all time (at least until Harry Potter), so you can't really say that it wasn't "that" popular.

HP's 6 or less books (forgot how many were written before they beat the record) outsold Goosebump's 62; also, as a "series" goes, they rarely had continuing characters or storylines, and were pretty much only a series due to an umbrella title "Goosebumps" and (reputedly) the same author. There is no comparison, really. 68.248.6.164 01:42, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other Goosebumps

I have got some other goosebumps books that don't fit into this, like Goosebumps Scaredy Caps Special, the Special Editions and Goosebumps Triple Header. Should they be mentioned or categorized etc.?--GingerM 18:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Someone probably should. I won't though, because this is something that I haven't had experience in for a while. Optichan 00:00, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

Night of the living dummy article created

Thought I'd let whoever edits this know that an article on Goosebumps:_Night_Of_The_Living_Dummy has been created. It's in a very poor state, and I tagged it for cleanup, as a stub, and so on. I thought if someone wants to clean it up, it might be appropriate to link it from here, since according to this article it was the author's favorite Goosebumps book. -- SCZenz 08:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

~~That article is redundant. We already have Night Of The Living Dummy. Any relevant info should be merged there.~~ Never mind. Goosebumps:_Night_Of_The_Living_Dummy actually predates Night Of The Living Dummy, and the latter is about the entire Slappy series. I suppose we can keep both articles, but I agree, they both need some cleanup. Zagalejo 00:38, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Night Of The Living Dummy

I created that night of the living dummy article and I am offended that you would say such things about it.

Don't take this stuff personally; it's just constructive criticism. Zagalejo 00:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Goosebumps in other languages

Not all spanish speaking countries translated Goosebumps as Escalofríos. In Spain it was translated as Pesadillas (that means Nightmares). The information in the article is inaccurate, but I don't know exactly how to write it propperly.--62.43.237.98 15:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about the Goldbook Goosebumps?

I remember reading up on a few things and I noticed that R.L.Stine was going to make a Goosebumps goldbook. Once again those were also banned. Shouldn't there be a section for that here? ~*~Punk18~*~

I don't recall the Goldbooks ever being published???--CyberGhostface 00:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I mean, they stopped those books from being published----Punk18

I don't think it was 'banned', its just that Goosebumps was no longer profitable...if you recall ,near the end, the sales had seriously plummeted. Goosebumps has been been banned in schools before, but never by Scholastic itself.--CyberGhostface 00:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I heard about the sales figures. Pretty sad really. It really looked like R.L.Stine was trying to bring back Goosebumps. I wonder what'd happy if he did.--Punk18

Why it ended?

Shouldn't there be a section for why Goosebumps was suddenly stopped?----Punk18

Nothing major...R. L. Stine's contract ended, and they decided not to renew it. Interesting factoid is that the sales plummeted yet they were obligated to keep on publishing it, so when the series was finally over Scholastic was doing pretty poor financially. If it wasn't for Harry Potter it'd be off a lot worse.--CyberGhostface 02:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it was because of the parents, who made libraries ban it.Punk18

Considering the amount that libraries pay to authors, I'd imagine that it wouldn't have made any significant difference --82.44.114.101 01:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sales

How many copies of these books were sold worldwide?

Banned

Why was this banned? KinseyLOL 19:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  because some stupid people thought it was too scary Sir Robert Castellano 16:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this not explained in the article? ~ Hibana 18:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

no information about goosebumps gold?

i know it was cancelled but ive seen on amazon that some are in production. any information where they are or anything?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.154.78 (talk • contribs)

None were made.--CyberGhostface 13:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

but i read that some people have them because they were made before they were cancelled and than they never got released again.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.154.78 (talk • contribs)

Really? Sources?--CyberGhostface 00:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

well amazon had a page about slappy new year and the haunted mask lives with reviews from people and they arent there anymore so i cant give sources sorry :( crap i wanna read them http://www.thebookplace.co.uk/bookplace/display.asp?ISB=0007104634 and http://www.whsmith.co.uk/whs/Go.asp?isbn=0007104634&shop=26985&tduid=d5310bfc393326c21d25a847ccfae216&affId=935910 dont know if they are true but maybe.

any comments?

Try ordering a book if you want. But I noticed of how both of them have are out of stock.--CyberGhostface 14:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good Fan Sites?

Are there any good fan sites for the Goosebumps series?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Terry 4k (talk • contribs)

Not really.--CyberGhostface 20:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How Many?

I'm not quite sure how many Goosebumps books there were. I know its a very high number, and considering each book was roughly 100 pages, Stein must've been busy. Also it didn't seem to follow any series, but were random horror stories under the same title. FinalWish 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of Goosebumps books

Would it be a good idea to merge that article here? Neither one is that big. Madman Marz 06:55, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's an idea, granted, but I don't think it's a good one. It's just that people seem to like it better with both separated, not to mention the many people who have protested the merge. Mack-the-random 01:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Goosebumps Series 2000

Goosebumps Series 2000 links to this page. Doesn't it have its own article?

No it doesnt have an article of it'sown.it would be great if someone were to write one.-Vmrgrsergr 05:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Font Title

What font did R.L. Stine used to make the title of the logo? -- Boogster Go! 04:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

French Title

In Canadian French, the translation is Chair de Poule (literally "hen flesh", the French phrase for goose bumps). I think we should remove the word Canadian because it is also known under the same title in France/Belgium. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.181.59 (talk) 18:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Scholarly Review"

This section is very dubious. First it is added by an IP user and deleted. Then User: Jonamatt‎, most likly the same IP user that added the section in the first place, reverts the deletion, with the edit summary: Overrulled edit because article was not infact an infringment upon copyright. Submitted by origonal writer; hence, no copyright infringment. It was then removed again because it was unreferenced and original research. It has been added back, deleted, and added back again. The "cited" sources only refer to Goosebumps page numbers and do not support any of the claims in the text. User: Jonamatt‎ can't or doesn't want to understand that this original research doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Please discuss. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 19:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Natureboy, I understand why you have deleted this post over and over. I must say that when the article was first posted it was done so by a member of the Swain Goosebumps Appreciation Society (SGAS). I, the author of the writing, reposted it from my account. I have included a citation for the article. In my defence, the guidelines to posting research do state "This policy does not prohibit editors with specialist knowledge from adding their knowledge to Wikipedia, but it does prohibit them from drawing on their personal knowledge without citing their sources. If an editor has published the results of his or her research in a reliable publication, the editor may cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our NPOV policy." I think that the citation I included should make this review appropriate, but if it is not let me know and I will be glad to fix it once again.

Sincerely, Jonathan Mattox President of the Swain Goosebumps Appreciation Society —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonamatt (talk • contribs) 19:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What citation? The only citations you have included are for pages to the original books. They don't support anything that is said in the article. It also uses a number of dubious/weasel words. For instance, the series is "respected by notable critics." What critics? In other words, prove it. The entier section sounds like a joke (no offence, if it is sincere). It also uses the first person: "I say children's writing not out of my own opinion but out of other's", which is not suitable for an encyclopedia. Your opinion (OR) and other's... WHO?

Also, don't forget to sign your posts with -~~~~ -NatureBoyMD (talk) 20:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any notion whatsoever that the Goosebumps series has any merit other than a quick scare has to be one of the most laughable things I have ever heard. There is no citation in this "scholarly" part because there is no scholar to support it. This section should be continuously deleted. Good luck NatureBoyMD. Macman202 (talk) 20:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the section; it was heavily weighted towards praise for the books, which failed to meet neutral point of view, and as a synthesis of information that appeared to be based on an article in a publication that does not appear to be notable (it receives no Google hits when I look for it, which a notable publication would be rather likely to do), appeared to be original research which is not allowable. Tony Fox (arf!) 04:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TonyFox,

It is quite obvious to me that you do not have much of an understanding of the components of literary review, if any at all. If you think that an analysis of a book is "weighted towards praise" by definition, you are seriously mistaken. Adressing the themes and symbols of a book does not mean the writing is slanted. If there were any "peackcock" words, they were replaced before you deleted the article. I will review this article again to make sure I did not miss any words that you could construe as "praise." If you delete this article again, I will submit a vandalism report to Wikipedia.

--Jonamatt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonamatt (talk • contribs) 16:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phrases such as "Serious viewers observe Goosebumps to enjoy it's complex themes and masterfully formulated plots," "There are many amazing Goosebumps episodes," and others are rife with peacock phrases; they were present in the version I removed. The entire section was a distillation of personal viewpoints, and is unsuitable for an encyclopedic article; as I state above, the section was inadequately sourced, as well. If you have properly sourced information that may be of use to the article, you're more than free to add it in; however, I'd advise against continuing to insert personal opinions. Tony Fox (arf!) 23:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've come to the conclusion that user Jonamatt isn't serious. There's absolutely no way. Macman202 (talk) 00:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NatureBoyMD, Macman202, Tony Fox:

I have considered your disrespectful comments towards my Scholarly Review article and, now that the Christmas holidays are over, I am obliged to let my anger with your remarks be known. I shall start with you, NatureBoyMD. NatureBoyMD, you reffered to my article as dubious. This is ironic, considering that you as a person are quite dubious. When I read your opinions of my article, I scoff at you. Your argument is so ill founded that I cannot even take you seriously. It is quite obvious to me, and all the memembers of the SGAS, that your dissatisfaction with the page citations is not an indication of the article's "dubiousness", but rather an indication of your ignorance of Goosebumps and literature in general. If you think people need a citation as to where the camera in Say Cheese and Die came from,, then you need to understand what is common knowledge and not. For instance, If i were to write that the sky is blue, or that the earth is round, or that MACman202 has no idea what he is talking about, most reasonably intelligent humans would agree with such widely known facts. Such is the same for Goosebumps and R.L. Stine. When I say that the plots "are masterfully formulated" or imply that R.L. Stine is brilliant, the majority of people recognize that the two statements are widely known facts. As for you MACman202, any notion what so ever that you have the ability to recognize fine literature "has to be one of the most laughable things I have ever heard" (NatureBoy, I included quotations in the last quote so that you, always one to want a citation for the obvious, will know that I quote this MACman202 himself). MacMan, it is quite bold of you to assume that there is so scholar behind my article. Perhaps you should stick to editing the Simon and Garfunkel page on wikipedia. I am sure you are quite familiar with it already. Tony Fox, you and NatureBoyMD seem to be on the same page as far as your inability to recognize common knowledge is concerned. To me it seems that you label anything you do not agree with as a "peacock term." I find this most repulsive, as I, like most free thinking, intelligent people believe that speech should not be censored because someone does not agree with it. You can take comfort in the fact that you are not the only one guilty of this unjust censorhip. MACman202 and NatureBoy are just as guilty. Each of you should devote, as I have, your mind to understanding the beauty and brilliance of Goosebumps. When you feel that you have researched Goosebumps as much as I have (it is very unlikely that you ever will) then you may suggest alterations to my scholarly review. Until then, your comments are not welcome, and they certainly will not be tolerated any longer.

Sincerely,

The Swain Goosebumps Appreciation Society

Goosebumps Horrorland article

I just discovered Wikipedia had this article, which I don't believe is linked anywhere on the other Goosebumps pages. Do you think it should be merged, or will the HorrorLand books be notable enough to have their own page? (At any rate, I'll go expand it to include the information recently dug up on the series.) Note: It should be HorrorLand, though, with a capital L - that's how it appears on the covers.