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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Jack Merridew (talk | contribs) at 10:06, 4 February 2008 (Azure Bonds etc). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Help with Eastbourne

I am trying to gather a small group of people to improve the Eastbourne article and writing to you as you have edited that page recently. I have set up a what needs to be done section on the talk page, and I am hoping that I will get a few people to start a discussion. It would be wonderful if you could spare a few minutes just to look at the current Eastbourne article and give your opinion. It would be evern more wonderful if you could join in with this small project as well. Thank you MortimerCat 12:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Strand Magazine..co.uk

I went ahead and nominated the article for deletion. Just wanted to let you know. Cheers. -- Seed 2.0 01:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Preview

Jim, it is possible to preview your changes before saving them and thus avoid producing dozens of versions. Xxanthippe 22:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know. I often preview my changes five or six times between each save. Infuriatingly, my keyboard has a "back" button next to the arrow keys that sometimes causes me to lose my work, so I like to save every few minutes. Because I save so many times, I usually copy an article to my user page and edit a draft there, which avoids cluttering up the history of the main article.
Thanks for the tip, though. Aside from cluttering up history pages (which I try to avoid), is there any reason saving so often would cause trouble? Jim 22:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know not apart from that. I agree that it is a good idea to do most of the editing off-line. Xxanthippe 03:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are on wikipedia, thus they are notable. I'm not even a fan of the band, but I think that is some noteworthy information, and the revision I made does not violate any wikipedia guidelines. In fact, it upholds them. I decided not to start a Trivia section because they are discouraged, so I included it in the influence section. Even as we speak, there is an AfD discussion on this article, so that type of information will soon be included in the influence section based on how things are going now. Your revision will be undone. --Pwnage8 (talk) 22:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by Xxanthippe (talk) 01:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC): The above concerned a proposal by Pwnage8 to place a reference to a popular music band Protest the Hero in the article on the Russian novelist Dostoevsky.[reply]

I think the best form of defense is attack. If the articles do not have proper referencing, citation, critical comment, assertions of notability and verifiability, then find the material and add it. If these things cannot be found then "maybe" the article is not actually supportable. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your words are wise ones. The problem is that the subjects of this genre, although having a vast fan base and being a significant manifestation of popular culture (and what is wrong with that?), get little exposure in authoritative venues. Few D&D novels, no matter how good they are, are likely to be reviewed by the Times Literary Supplement. So it can take some effort to find sources that give ironclad protection against the scattergun approach of quibblers, such as those active in this area at present. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC).[reply]

While I don't like the attack metaphor, Kevin is spot-on that sources should be found — if they exist. And if they don't, articles here are not warranted. If authoritative sources do not comment on a subject, then it is not notable --Jack Merridew 10:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please cease and desist from removing the Notability template without reasonable justification

Please cease and desist from removing the Notability template (and other cleanup templates) from Azure Bonds, an article which does not have any reliable secondary sources. There is no reasonable justification for removing the template which was put there to address this problem. The reason why I ask you to do this in the strongest possible terms is that you appear to be POV pushing, as the explanations for removing the template are not supported by a rational interpretation of the notability guideline WP:BK and WP:RS which applies to this topic.--Gavin Collins (talk) 09:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]