Talk:Natalie Gauci

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There is too much vandalism on this page, Jealous fans are posting un-sourced and un-true negative statements on this page. Any unsourced negative comments will be deleted. 144.139.29.18 (talk) 03:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

can we please change the picture. i think an actual photo of natalie would be better and look better than a single cover —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.210.38 (talk) 10:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC) Can you change the current picture to a better pic, that is not the best picture of natalie.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.138.47.208 (talk) 23:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC) I know the picture has been changed, but this still isnt a good picture. u can hardly see her face. can it be changed. if possible —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.210.38 (talk) 09:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC) WELL SUX 4 U :@ (Violetion (talk) 03:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC))lol u picked an awesome pic!!!!!!!![reply]

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Song and album comments

In both the Here I Am (Natalie Gauci song) and The Winner's Journey (Natalie Gauci album) there is comment about the lack of popularity of the song and album, yet these facts have been censored from the article on Natalie Gauci here, primary by User:Violetion. I do not completely understand why this is, as the unpopularity of the song and album, in comparison to prior Idol winners, is relevant, factual, provable, sourced, and important to the topic. Whether people from Malta might have liked one of Natalie Gauci's performances, or what one newspaper might have said is borderline relevant, but a large factor, such as the fact that both her debut album and debut single are the least popular debut releases by an Idol winner in its 5 year history is quite significant. This omission is especially confusing given that in the articles on both the song and album they lack of popularity is listed. It appears to me that there is a violation of WP:OWN going on here. Dyinghappy (talk) 20:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The members of the Natalie Gauci Official Forum would appreciate if people stop vandalizing this webpage with negative material. If you have something to include please source the information adequately. And stop deleting the informative material which has been included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.73.35 (talk) 10:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sourced material seems to have been wiped quite a lot of times from this article. Now it seems that this is no longer just being done by Violetion, now it is by a group of people orchestrating it from a forum. Dyinghappy (talk) 02:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dyinghappy, why are you so determined to add all this BS to Natalie's Wikipedia article? It's very obvious you don't like her, we get the point, but why waste your time trying to vandalize her Wikipedia article? It's like a part of your daily ritual. It really makes no sense to me. Do you have something against Natalie? Did she deny you an autograph or something? (Violetion (talk) 12:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC))[reply]

If it was sourced and relevant to Natalie Gauci it would not have been edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samie47 (talk • contribs) 11:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you can call it vandalism when it is adding sourced, neutral text. It is disappointing to see such bias exist, where true and important things are being removed. Everyone has two sides, and both should be presented. Dyinghappy (talk) 13:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even though you are now sourcing your information, it is from an unreliable source. Contact Sony/BMG or Aria and they will tell you, as they have told us, that there was never any unit figures released to the public about the sales. As for the continuous edit about Natalie rearranging popular songs – how does that exactly make her fake? And who else bar you has ever said it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samie47 (talk • contribs) 09:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a comment ¨To others, it was a reason to consider Gauci to be fake.¨ there is no source and should be removed as it is offensive!

I'm not sure "fake" is the best word, but the plain truth is those allegations did take place, even if you disagree with them. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 12:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When and where did they take place? Name it, show it? Where? Those allegations were made towards Tarasi but not towards Natalie.

A note to future contributors

I have tried my best to remove some of the WP:NPOV issues in this article, only to have all of my efforts reverted. User:Violetion seems to think that he owns this article, in violation of WP:OWN and has now petitioned on a Natalie Gauci fan forum for an orchestrated effort to control this article.

I am giving up here. This article is never going to be accurate or neutral whilst this is going on, and I am just one person and don't care enough to want to fight it.

Anyone future who might stumble upon this article should be aware of the control and nastiness associated with this article, alongside people who are vandalising the article with messages like "SUX 4 U" who at the same time make false accusations of vandalism against people who try to get rid of them. See WP:VANDAL for what vandalism actually is.

Thankfully other articles on this topic are more accurate, but this may change in time. Just be aware when coming across this, as it seems to be a warzone.

I will leave this article now, as I don't care enough to fight, and I have better things to do. Just a warning for anyone else. Dyinghappy (talk) 14:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2 BAD 2 SAD (Violetion (talk) 09:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC))[reply]

To others, it was a reason to consider Gauci to be fake.??? what is that? u get protection after posting that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.73.35 (talk) 11:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We need to present the information in a neutral manner and present all points of view, even if we disagree with them. See WP:NPOV please. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 11:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It’s ok we will gladly now contribute to this article, without having to fix it up everyday because of your negativity. Go wreck someone else’s page!! Bye!!!

That's pathetic, Violetion, and you should be ashamed. I've requested proection of this article, so you'll need to discuss further changes here. Sorry, no more POV pushing. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 10:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fake? WZF

Natalie was known to significantly alter songs when covering them, such as Rihanna's Umbrella, Michael Jacksons Man In The Mirror and even on the winner's single "Here I Am". To her fans this is one of the many reasons Gauci became so popular. To others, it was a reason to consider Gauci to be fake.

Umm... please get rid of this BS. Why would rearranging popular songs make someone look "fake"? Eh? That makes no sense. Unsourced and completely untrue.