Talk:Pie menu

Image fair use?

Would that image be considered fair usage? --Dante Alighieri

Well it's just cropped from http://www.piemenus.com/

I guess it would be fair use...

Another meaning

I guess pie menu can also mean the menu at a restaurant that lists the pies available. lol FLaRN2005 02:18, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how serious you are, but... a quick Google for "pie menu" (with the quotes) seems to only give information about what the article is about, so I don't think your meaning is used very often, and there doesn't need to be a disambiguation link on top or anything like that. Retodon8 23:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how serious you are, but... this is why people make fun of Wikipedia contributors ... --69.139.198.89 05:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.mcpies.com/famous_pies/pie_menu.php Pie Menu?

Front row?

The caption says "Mac OS X's Front Row uses a pie menu". Does it? I haven't used it, but that doesn't look like a pie menu to me. As the article points out, pie menus are designed to be used with a mouse, i.e., all items are equidistant from the cursor when first displayed.

F.R. is designed to be used with the Apple Remote, which isn't a mouse (or pointing device) at all. The first advantage of pie menus is listed as "size and proximity of menu items" -- does this apply to F.R. at all, if it isn't used with a mouse?

F.R. is cool, but it doesn't look like a pie menu to me.

Ersatz Pie Menus

I agree: the caption "Mac OS X's Front Row uses a pie menu" is wrong. The "Front Row" has none of the advantages of pie menus, which flow from Fitts' Law. A circular layout does not a pie menu make. It has to do with the way the input device operates, not how the screen looks. Pie menus can be used with other input devices than the mouse (like a touch screen "finger pie"), but the important thing is that the pointing device starts out in the center of the menu, and the direction of movement selects the item. So for example, the dial of an iPod is definitely not a pie menu, just because it's round. -Don Hopkins (pie menu developer since 1986).

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Palm keyboard based on pie menu principles

I think I remember seeing a third-party software keyboard for Palm PDA's that used the principles of a pie menu to present a full keyboard. It was a lot more complex than the examples on the page, it looked kind of square, and I admit I never used it, but I was just wondering if anyone knows what I'm talking about and could add it to the page.

Is Don Hopkins the inventor of pie menus?

There needs to be a citation to prove that Don Hopkins invented pie menus because reading the literature this statement appears false. See this academic paper on the history of pie menus written by Dr. Gordon Kurtenbach at Alias: [1]. Note especially that the above referenced paper mentions that the first implementation of pie menus is attributed to a system called PIXIE in 1969. If this true it then follows that Don Hopkins is not the inventor of pie menus. --Kristensson 02:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the initial inventor part, for rationale see my above comment. --Kristensson 23:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]