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Can we please get our facts straight

Yet again the integrity of Wikipedia could be called into question by ill researched information regarding emergency services other than the Police, Fire and Ambulance Services. The Coastguard for instance is not a "SECONDARY" emergency service as stated and this could be interpreted as a derogatory offensive and inflamatory term. Can we please ensure in furture we use correct terminology that reflects the good work of all agencies throughout the globe who's prime objective is to save life. Im afraid alot of authors out there whilst well intentioned havent the first clue about emergency services around the world. If you are not well versed about the work of emergency services, dont write about them. Its a simple as that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.81.117 (talk) 01:10, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Coast guard

I wanted to change what now says "coastguard" to Coast Guard but I don't know if that would be Americocentric of me. Can any foreigners enlighten me? Tokerboy 01:41 Nov 16, 2002 (UTC)

The Coast Guard is a United states specific service. While it has a maritime Search and Rescue function I would see this as a sepecialised emergency service such as the Lifeboats run by the Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RLBI) around the coast of Britain or, for example, the Surf Lifesaving Clubs and volunteer Coastguards in Australasia. kiwiinapanic 23:58 Jan 19, 2003 (UTC)

What a silly debate "Coastguards" are called "Coastguards". Thats right Coastguards not Coast (space) Guards. Whoever started the debate about this is very very immature and seriously misinformed - stop wasting peoples time for goodness sake by picking hairs over silly irrelevant and stupid little quarms you may have. Im going to now report you to wikipedia admin staff. I am absolutely disgusted you felt it necessary to bring this up.


Those comments just there are near enough false. Coastguards have been around for quite a while, here and there in the world, and stemmed from revenue services. I don't know off hand if the function that the US Coastguard performed, that was also performed earlier in the UK, was ever formally called a "Coastguard" in the UK - but it existed.

But that function is not an emergency service, though aspects of that may have been hung on it later (after all, the US Navy was an offshoot of its Coastguard, formally speaking). And there have never been "coast" guards in Australia, though they have been suggested - what is being described are Lifeguards, and it is misleading to hang the name Coastguard on them. PML.

While not wishing to engage in a huge argument I see a distinction between the "Coast Guard" as a military force and the "Coastguard" as a lifesaving service. In both Australia and New Zealand Surf lifesaving clubs do operate lifeguards. However in New Zealand, boat owners also operate a volunteer Coastguard, with its own rescue boats, like the Lifeboats in Britain, whose prime function is maritime search and rescue. My - perhaps ill phrased - reference to Australasia (not just Australia) was intended to include that type of organisation that operates in New Zealand. It is obviously called something else in Australia, if it exists. Can anyone advise? kiwiinapanic 02:08 Jan 20, 2003 (UTC)

This page really needs cleanup work. There are so many things floating around out there. Everything emergency services related needs to be brought pack to one place. Jantman 21:17, 12 June 2006 (UTC)Jantman[reply]

Hi Gunnar

I added a link to the emergency services page and some other pages related to emergency services, which you have since deleted as a spam or commerical link.

The link takes people to the international index of emergency service site which allows emergency service worker share expertise. I realise on reflection that I should have put my added article in a bit more context although I feel the link was as relevant as the NREMT which appears within wilkipedia on a number of pages and is as relevant to the link I inserted. The only difference between many of the link are they are American based and the other is not, this is the case of the Index link, which caters to a broader population than the US.

There was no intent to spam. I will re-think about how I should write an additonal piece so it can not be view as an "advert".

I am happy to discuss this further and comply to your rules. I am sorry if this has caused some distress.

In conclusion I think my addition to Emergency Services should be re-considered and the link is relevant to all who work in emergency services. If the link I proposed is considered inappropriate, then organisations such as commerical builders of ambulances (which appear on the ambulance page) and the National Register of EMTs should also be removed to ensure equity.

Look forward to further discussion

Andrew McDonell —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.150.122.57 (talk • contribs) .

The NREMT is an established registry established by the American Medical Association, and many other established organizations, founded after recommendation by a presidential commission. If you have a comparable international association link, feel free to link it, but discuss link inclusion on the talk pages of the relevant articles, and I suggest trying to get your link accepted to Paramedic first, without trying in other articles.
Your website seems like one of many catalogue services, and it is not scheduled for publication untill 2007. I did a search for some selected high-population countries without finding any people. On closer inspection, I see that sending an application costs 100 USD minimum, which is expensive for what is only a resume database — a service that is usually free of charge for resume-holders. First-year membership in the AMA, for example, is 210 USD, but that is a full proffesional association, with lobbyists and lots of member activities.
If you can find a better international site, I'd be happy to see it included. Thank you. --GunnarRene 09:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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