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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by SummerPhD (talk | contribs) at 20:38, 27 February 2008 (Peacock: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Much of this article is cited as being from Santos' myspace page. Myspace is not a reliable source and needs to be replaced. The obvious choice, since the article borders on copyvio, is the real source http://www.imnworld.com/matthewsantos. (e.g. "Santos has won appreciation from a host of industry veterans and critics...", "The reincarnation will be featured on ...", etc.) This site, though, is only reliable for bare, uncontested facts, not the peacock stuff detailed below.

I'll give it a few days for "whoever" (heh) is editing this page to clean some of it up before I start to take it apart. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Peacock

Clearly page is being maintained by a very devoted fan, Santos' label or Santos. Much of what is here has to go. Here are a few of the more glaring problems:

fancruft, at best: "His musical influences range..." , "older brother (in a non-notable band), and a younger sister...studying abroad", open-mic hosting while in college, etc.

peacock: "...he developed an international following surrounding his intimate video performances on YouTube." (The near copyvio says "developed a following surrounding his intimate video performances that made the rounds on YouTube."[1] "International" sounds better, though.)

Etc. It goes on and on. One of the more troubling aspects is the sourcing. Some cites seem to be randomly placed. "featured on Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor album on the song 'American Terrorist.'" The cited source [2] does not mention Fiasco, the next source, a sentance or so later says "featured singing on Lupe Fiasco's debut album 'Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor' on the politically abrasive track 'American Terrorist.'" is clearly the source.

Actually, that brings up the next problem. Many of the sources are either entirely useless (blogs, myspace and such) or cannot be used for what they are citing (interviews can be cited for bare facts but not opinions, the labels site is similar). Applying verifiability and the demand for reliable sources will make this article a lot shorter.

Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]