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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by MiszaBot I (talk | contribs) at 01:07, 3 March 2008 (Archiving 4 thread(s) (older than 45d) to Talk:High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection/Archive 2006, Talk:High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection/Archive 2007.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

HDCP will ultimately promote pirating

With windows vista having HD out, all current computer monitors will not be able to support HDCP. Furthurmore, since the HDCP standard is not backwards compatible, they device you buy today will be useless tomorrow.

For example if you buy a new 3000 DLP HD tv, you will probably not be able to buy a blue-ray HD-DVD next year because the HDCP version will be newer than your TV. And I garantee DVD manufacturers are not going to start making multiple HDCP version of their products.

When they told me that I could not watch any of my original bought DVD's thru the analogue component. Why bother ever buying another movie again, I'll just rent them for 3 Bucks and make prfect 1:1 copies with my DL DVD-RW.

Article Quality

I'm fairly uninformed about this topic, which is why I was browsing this article, but this article is horrible. It does not present a neutral point of view, which is obvious by the bold text in the intro. It also uses frequent weasel words and makes unsubstantiated claims, again in the intro. This article needs serious clean-up and an admin should ban shodaddy from editing; it's clear he does not represent and informed, non-biased opinion of the topic. I would try to clean the article up, but I don't know enough. I only know that by reading the article it's obvious this is not a reputable article. I'm going to add a "clean-up" tag, although, I'm almost certain shodaddy will remove it before clean-up is done. 204.155.56.3 (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I second that motion. "Furthering the gap between the rich and poor?" That belongs in an article about marxism, not one about digital technology. Cheezmeister (talk) 19:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. I just stripped out all the political bollocks, Undoubtedly some anti-copyright zealot will be along shortly to add it back in again, but there you go - one can but try. Ianbetteridge (talk) 15:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Addition?

I think it should be added that "The vulnerability shown by Crosby et al requires knowing 40 linearly independent private keys." Thus (in a realistic case), more than 40 keys (HDCP devices) need to be compromised to disable the key revocation scheme, cf. http://www.angelfire.com/realm/keithirwin/HDCPAttacks.html .

Started cleaning up

Took a look at the DRM issue, content or stream protection is more accurate. Also did a lot of searching in the license agreement and corrected entry to reflect language present in that document.

Moved cryptanalysis down for readability.

I plan to tackle the spec and use scenarios next, upon first look they also have some factual errors.

Dcpexpert (talk) 23:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One of the references (Niels Ferguson bit towards the end) says it's a dead link, but it actually redirects to an unsavory site now. What's the best way of removing the link without removing the information about when and where the site was accessed for use in the article? --W0lfie (talk) 17:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More cleaning

I moved some items around for browsability. There were a lot of major chunks of text, trying to add some structure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcpexpert (talk • contribs) 23:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Destructive edits by Shodaddy

I have been working to clean up this entry and get it up to Wiki standards. Moving Shodaddy's criticisms to appropriate sections and cleaning up the language and attempting to cite his claims. Each time I move things around and clean it up he simply pastes the same thing in again once I have already moved it to where it belongs and polished it up some. What is the next course of action? Dcpexpert (talk) 16:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try reporting abuse with the wikipedia editors? This article is one of the worst I have ever seen on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.104.160.81 (talk) 22:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked Shodaddy to cease the edits via their Talk page. I'm hoping they will discuss the issue, either here or there, but if they refuse to do so I'd suggest we treat the comments as vandalism: they're so clearly outside NPOV, and the campaign of reverts is so clear, that unless there's discussion I can only assume the edits are destructive. Ianbetteridge (talk) 15:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hdcp stripper for what appears to be the standard edits from User:Shodaddy. -- KelleyCook (talk) 18:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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