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scarne and card counting
I won't revert what you added, as it appears to be more complete (and cited) than what was there before. That said, the reference that you pulled did indicate that there was a falling out of Scarne with the gambling community at the time over that comment. With respect to keeping WP fair and balanced, is removing that citation proper? SpikeJones (talk) 04:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The only reference in the deleted citation to Scarne was that he criticized Thorp's system. Since this is already covered in Scarne's books, and in the "The History of Card Counting" web site in a later reference, I do not believe the citation is still required. Isaac Lin (talk) 04:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I recognize your comment, but the text you removed indicated Scarne's *motivation* to offer the challenge, and there were *two* citations presented. The first one referenced that Scarne contradicted himself by first saying that he could count cards while also saying that Thorpe's strategy was flawed. It may be something that is implied in the wp article, but the inclusion of this specific observation was cited in an article by a knowledgeable writer. As for the second item, it refered to Scarne's loss of credibility (not just the "nobody took him up on the offer" part of the sentence). I'm just saying that you removed two cited items and in rewriting the paragraph changed the tone from a neutral point of view to one that doesn't necessarily address Scarne's flaws. I can certainly understand your rewrite if there were no citations in the original text, but that was not the case here. As to your other point is that while the info on Scarne's criticism of Thorpe may be in the Scarne book, it is certainly allowable here as well. SpikeJones (talk) 05:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
