Talk:Andrew Baron
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This article was nominated for deletion on 5 June 2006. The result of the discussion was Keep. |
Requested info added. Pepso 09:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Some NPOV please?
My god, this entry reads like Baron wrote it himself. Far too flacky. --Nick Douglas 05:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- I can't agree. Baron and Rocketboom got a huge amount of press coverage. Those were the sources, and all sentences are factual, based on those sources, including direct quotes from CBS News, Rolling Stone and others. Pepso 13:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
This really is unbelievable, this completely reads as though Baron created it. Delete.
- I agree it reads like Baron wrote it himself, which is unfortunate. Baron's work is noteworthy, but this piece is largely about what he and others have said, rather than anything he's done. I'd expect better from a celebrity gossip vlog. Certainly don't delete, but please get some meat in the thing. Danja 23:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Keep it
Andrew Baron is a not a well known name, but Rocketboom is! Gordo 10:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- No reason why he should be a well known name. How many people know the name Jennifer Bermon... the producer of NBC Nightly News? How many people can name the inventor of OCR or the mouse? What Baron created is a significant turning point for the Internet, and I've tried to add the requested items of importance and reference. Pepso 13:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- I am sure that this page will stay, now: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Andrew_Baron Gordo 08:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed the importance tag when I closed the AfD per that discussion.--Chaser T 09:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Considering the impact that Andrew Baron has had on new media, its ludicrous to me that this page would even be considered for removal. There are so many less relevant people on wikipedia than Andrew Baron. I suspect foul play...maybe from Amanda Congdon?
RFC for NPOV
Recent edits by Sarahmeyers seems insistent on restoring a much older version on top of recent edits made by a large number of users. This article needs quite a bit of work (and I invite others to help) but I take specific issue with including large amounts of uncited viewership/popularity statistics yet deleting an independent analysis by BusinessWeek that provides a different yet interesting viewpoint. Cleanr 02:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- I support changing the article but I reverted it to the last state before a troll (not Cleanr) revamped the article based on their apparent dislike for Andrew Baron and Rocketboom. SarahMeyers
SarahMeyers is his girlfriend, does that make her edits a conflict of interest? --User:Species5618 02:57, 21 December 2007 (EST)
Merge/Delete
Can anyone tell me why a Baron article should be in Wikipedia, rather than moving the info to the Rocketboom article? Mpublius 18:55, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- The article was nominated for deletion previously [1]. The AfD is a bit odd in that people seem to be taking the approach that Baron will become notable in the future. Pepso goes so far as to state that Rocketboom is "busy making their first million." The most recent and most credible reference in the article indicates that Baron is losing money on Rocketboom [2] which contradicts much of the earlier material in the article as well. Although he's working on a notable project I guess I'm coming to the conclusion that there aren't enough verifiable sources to build a proper NPOV article around Baron himself. If someone wants to propose a merge/delete I'll support it. Cleanr 05:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Referred here while perusing the AN backlogs. My initial take, knowing nothing of the history of this article and the related Rocketboom article: Notability here looks to be ok to me, though the tone of the article itself has some deep POV issues. Also, a lot of what is here is contained almost word-for-word on the Rocketboom article. Thus, I do not think I would support a delete of this article, though it seems like an ideal Merge candidate, as much of the content is already in the RB article; merging the material facts of Mr. Baron into that article would be easily done, and would only serve to further improve the Rocketboom article. Arakunem 00:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm going to merge with Rocketboom. Andrew Baron blanked the page (see personal blog at http://dembot.com/post/28380458). After being restored, anonymous edits started. Cleanr (talk) 21:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- Referred here while perusing the AN backlogs. My initial take, knowing nothing of the history of this article and the related Rocketboom article: Notability here looks to be ok to me, though the tone of the article itself has some deep POV issues. Also, a lot of what is here is contained almost word-for-word on the Rocketboom article. Thus, I do not think I would support a delete of this article, though it seems like an ideal Merge candidate, as much of the content is already in the RB article; merging the material facts of Mr. Baron into that article would be easily done, and would only serve to further improve the Rocketboom article. Arakunem 00:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Wrong Age
There is no way he is 27 years old, and linking to his Facebook profile isn't a reliable source. --User:Species5618 02:55, 21 December 2007 (EST)
I have been looking at this page as Baron claimed on his blog that naysayers have owned this article.
Baron and Congdon have been fighting for some time and if you look at the changes user: Cleanr has made to Barons article as well as the Rocketboom article, and also note that the article for Amanda Congdon which is overly fluffly has never been touched by Cleanr, you will note that Cleanr is very likey part of Congdons camp, if not Congdon herslef.
I would like for Wikipedia to open an investigation and ban Cleanr from touching any of the articles.
One perfect example is that Cleanrs justification for her most recent edits had to do with removing info from Barons article that was duplicate to Rocketbooms article but the negitive points were left in tact. Ie, Cleanr only removed the positive duplicate information.
The above example is just one of many so I will revert Cleanrs edits and ask that Wikipedia lock down this article for some time.