Talk:Animal welfare in Nazi Germany
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Do you have any other sources for this claim? Jammy Simpson | Talk | 16:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, you can see there are source in the article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- For the record, you added those after my request, but thank you. Jammy Simpson | Talk | 17:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- This article has serious issues with respect to reliable sources and WP:NPOV. Please explain how [1] , cited as a reference for many of the claims, is a reliable source. Edison (talk) 23:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Why Kaltio is not RS? It is used as source in the article Nazi Germany also. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 00:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't find a problem with Kaltio's reliability in this aspect. If you feel there is a problem with a particular citation, please point it out. Herunar (talk) 15:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Why Kaltio is not RS? It is used as source in the article Nazi Germany also. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 00:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- This article has serious issues with respect to reliable sources and WP:NPOV. Please explain how [1] , cited as a reference for many of the claims, is a reliable source. Edison (talk) 23:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- For the record, you added those after my request, but thank you. Jammy Simpson | Talk | 17:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Influence after WW2
This whole paragraph is hogwash. Principally, the whole bundle of laws for animal and nature protection was never abolished after WW2, at least in west Germany. The three laws (Reichsnaturschutzgesetz, Tierschutzgesetz, Reichsjagdgesetz) were taken over by the federal republic with only minor changes, like making it easier to claim compensation for environmental measures. Same goes for the cruelty to animals paragraph in the criminal code (StGB). In fact, laws made between 1933 and 45 were generally only changed as far as they contained nazi ideology. The fact that the Wolf is extinct in Germany is because the areas were wolves live were no longer german territory. In the present day borders of Germany, the Wolf has been extinct at least 150 years, even though occasional packs move in from Poland in cold winters and some might have taken up permanent residence recently.JCRitter (talk) 16:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not the whole paragraph. Only the following:
“ | After the defeat of Nazi Germany in World War II, most of the animal protection laws enacted by the Nazis were dissolved in Germany. The wolf became extinct and nature preservation areas were turned into agricultural lands. Until the beginning of the 1970s, everything related to nature preservation were wiped out in Germany. | ” |
Per the above argument, the following sentences can be removed:
- "After the defeat of Nazi Germany in World War II, most of the animal protection laws enacted by the Nazis were dissolved in Germany"
- "The wolf became extinct"
- "Until the beginning of the 1970s, everything related to nature preservation were wiped out in Germany"
I am removing these sentences per above argument. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Error in final section?
"In the United Kingdom, few neo-Nazi groups who read Nazi Germany's effort for protection of animal rights, tried to join the animal liberation movement.[3]"
Should this actually say "a few" rather than "few" - the addition of "a" more-or-less reverses the sense of the sentence! 87.113.49.73 (talk) 18:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- OK. Done. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Photo Removed?
What was the purpose of removing the photo of Adolf Hitler with his dog? The comment associated with that edit suggests to me that the editor felt that this was may have been painting Hitler in too positive a light, but is it not also true that Hitler was indeed an animal lover and this should not be concealed? The photo was appropriate and illustrative of this and seemed like an excellent companion to the article. Just my opinion, it made the article better and was a service by breaking the assumption that Hitler or Nazis were unmitigated evil (not to say they were acceptable or defensible, only that they were human).