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Wikifying

Hi. I noticed you keep add various links about to the same article in Indianapolis 500. It really isn't necessary to have links to Jim Clark, or Al Unser, or Bill Vukovich, or Roger Penske more than once in the same page. Some of these had three or four links in the Indy page, which I've removed. I've also removed all those flags from the Indy article. The flags were designed for use in tables, not in the middle of text. --Pc13 15:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"==" is used for create headers in a page. They're more like different chapters in the same page. I agree, the Indy 500 article is becoming increasingly bulky. When I originally expanded the article I tried to avoid being specific about years and drivers, and preferred to point out defining events in the history of the Indy 500. Then other people started adding trivia and lists. Some of these have been spun into their own pages, and right now I believe the same should happen to the "Year by year" section. It would probably be good to create Indianapolis 500 history, and transfer the "Year by year" to it. Flags in the middle of the text are not a good idea, visually wise. Besides, not all flags are instantly recognizable. If people want to know the drivers' nationality, they can simply click on the link, it's mentioned in their articles. --Pc13 17:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Star Tiger source

Hello! I noticed you added a section on the Star Tiger to Bermuda Triangle. However, you didn't add any additional sources. Could you please somehow indicate what sources you used? Thanks! --AySz88^-^ 16:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

co-winner

Hi. I noticed that you recorded Corum as a "co-winner". I'm not sure that this is necessary. Members of a team are usually all referred to as winners, while people who tie are usually co-winners. For example, Ben Roethlisberger is a winner of Super Bowl XL, as is Jerrome Bettis, but Peyton Manning and Steve McNair are co-winners of the 2003 NFL MVP award. --Brian G 03:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, but I've known necessity in the modern racing world to explain the nature of the 500, wherein the car is winning entry, rather than, necessarily, the driver. If one starts and the other finishes the race, they would be co-winners...instead of just one or the other, and then edits coming in due to people thinking they know the "true winner, instead of this being incorrect," etc. A lot of that could be possible on wikipedia, at least so far as I've seen on several pages. --Chr.K. 06:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That context helps some, thanks. I thought that I had addressed it in the body of the article (if that stub I created can be called a body), but I can see how your note makes it more clear than I had done. To be consistent, do you want to make any similar changes to Joe Boyer, Floyd Davis and Mauri Rose? --Brian G 13:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hope Diamond

Hey, I wanted to discuss your adding of the Hope Diamond to the project. I was working on a list of "what isn't under the scope of the project", and curses were one of the things I was planning on adding. While I understand that the circumstances of a curse could be considered paranormal, the usage of the word is so wide as to suggest the inclusion of some stuff that more clearly doesn't seem like our department, like the Curse of the Billy Goat or the Curse of the Bambino. What do you think? --InShaneee 16:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discount the phenomina of curses at all; I'm simply saying that the modern usage has become synonimous with Bad Luck, and thus it can make objectively deciding when a curse is truly paranormal extremely difficult. Was the Curse of the Bambino a curse? If not, how do we explain our criteria for inclusion in the project? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the topic of curses has little coverage on wikipedia (perhaps due to a lack of recognition), hence why I think we should hesitate before trying to include them. --InShaneee 18:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And also, there's the issue of whether it would be more suited to our sister project, Wikipedia:WikiProject Occult, instead. --InShaneee 18:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That still brings us to the original problem of articles such as Curse of the Bambino. And while I considered bringing this to the Project, that smacks of original research (having us, the editors, decide which curses are 'real'). Curse itself sounds like a good addition, though, barring my second comment above. While I'm thinking about it, too, love the Eerie, Indiana quote on your userpage. :) --InShaneee 18:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just don't see it as being that simple. For example, if you look at this section, people did treat the Curse of the Bambino as a real curse, and that is verifiable. So here, we're getting down into some real dirty, ugly semantics. Do you see what I'm getting at? --InShaneee 21:38, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I guess. Curse doesn't go so far as to detail effects/scope. --InShaneee 22:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On a different note, thanks for helping me finish classing the unassessed Paranormal articles. I was beginning to think I'd have to do all 465 myself! :) --InShaneee 15:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the first time I've got that complaint, either. I've kind of been ignoring them for the most part, simply because I figure that once we get a large number of members, we'll want to create some subProjects, and they very first one on the list will be WikiProject Cryptozoology. But until there's enough people to handle that, it's really best if we be the hub for it. --InShaneee 15:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with that is simply a practical one. While WikiProject Parapsychology seems like a logical division, we wouldn't have enough editors to get it started. Even WP:PARA right now is very much an infant project (compare to the 400+ member WP:MILHIST). A Wikiproject needs a large amount of support to be founded and continue functioning, and right now, we've barely got that. I'm sure it will exist in the future (as a matter of fact, as soon as this business of the new icon gets cleared up, I'm going on a canvassing run for new members), but until then, it's really best to keep the topics where the interest is. When we start getting large, this should be brought up again, although even then, I'm going to suggest that perhaps a Taskforce structure like in WP:MILHIST might be more prudent. --InShaneee 15:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, without a large body of support, WikiProjects by logical division will simply fail. Best to keep subjects together in a large lump, then split off as subcats become sustainable. For example, WP:PARA was essentially inactive when I found it. It's logical structure was completely correct, but it had little to no editorial support. --InShaneee 15:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that's true. All of the complaints I've recieved have been placated once it was pointed out that we aren't claiming these things as paranormal, we're simply taking care of Cryptozoology articles as part of our project's scope. Besides, better to have an imperfect name than several largely unsupported projects. --InShaneee 15:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I created a Wiki Category

I created a new Wiki Category: "Category:Bermuda Triangle". I would appreciate it if you looked it over and would help me to expand it. Thank you. ProfessorPaul 03:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Indy pole sitters

Keeping the kmh should be fine...I hadn't gotten very far, anyway...a quick look at the "history" should recover the old values. Doctorindy 20:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This edit: [1] is OK. Thank you for finding nice solution. Przepla 23:03, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Original Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
I award you this barnstar for your excellent contributions to Wikipedia:WikiProject Paranormal and for your work towards assessing unrated articles within the project. It's that kind of "plugging along" getting the little things done type of work that help move articles onwards and upwards in quality. THANKS! Lisapollison 22:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POGO 22, et al

I haven't been able to get anything more than the newspapers in question, and even then this is limited to old copies of the Washington Post, New York Times, and Atlanta Constitution. I have not been able to get a copy of the report from the Air Force Historical Society (I believe they would supply it) as of yet. It does get frustrating when dealing with a governmental entity. Carajou 14:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou

Thankyou, kind sir. Oh yes! -- Definately!--R.A Huston 10:07, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Afd/AFOL

Hey, just wondering if you could clarify the comments you made on the AFOL AfD page. Thanks! mcr616 Speak! 22:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tenses

Please be aware that creative works "are", not "were", unless, for example: lost or destroyed. See also WP:TENSE. Matthew 07:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Taskforce You May Be Interested In

Hi Chr.k.,

From seeing one of your userboxes, which states that you are interested in the Salem Witch Trials, you may want to join a new task force another Wikipedian, Cocoaguy, and I created which is devoted to the Trials: Salem Witch Trials task force.

So please check it out.

Thanks,

Psdubow 20:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to EVP

I'm inviting you to offer your perspective on the EVP article and to join us in making that article one of the 'good articles' here at Wikipedia. Right now we are working on the lead or opening. My thoughts are to bring consensus for the article top - down (starting with the opening as that sumarizes the article and topic). I'm interested in any editors from ProjectParanormal who would like to join in as a group effort to improve this article. Your involvement with this group; I recently found due to EVP and joined; would help in organizing members towards the positive goal of improving this article. The article needs some help especially with structure - grammar - references - and overall neutrality. --Northmeister 13:20, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Are you sure that the article belongs in WP:AOWR? Lots of types of vehicles raced on board tracks. I have not reverted your adding the article to the WikiProject, but I request that you explain the genre's relevance to American Open Wheel racing on the article's talk page. Royalbroil 00:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits to the board track racing make it clear why it should be part of WP:AOWR. I worked on the article a few days ago. I'm about ready to start an article on Eddie Hasha in my sandbox. His death was very influential in the decline of board tracks. Please watch for any references to him in your research. I have two solid sources right now: the front page article about the accident in the New York Times, and one of the references in the Board track racing article. I hope to make a Did You Know article on Hasha. Royalbroil 01:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry I if I screwed up and caused you an edit conflict by editing WT:AOWR. I'll wait until you're done. Royalbroil 14:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Template:American Open Wheel driver results legend requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

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It seems this template isn't actually transcluded anywhere. From what I can tell, it's just a key or legend. Would you have any objection to moving it to a subpage of the American Open Wheel Racing WikiProject? Seems more appropriate to have it the Wikipedia: namespace rather than the Template: namespace if it isn't going to be used as a template. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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