Talk:Environmental effects on forensic entomology

I think that this article is great. I think though that you should add in a little bit more information. I think there needs to be more research done on this topic. I base this on the fact that I do not think others could get adequate information from this artcle. The idea is there it just needs to be expanded on a bit. I think you should use some of the information in class in this article as well. The topic is, however, interesting.Megalatta (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I enjoyed this article. It managed to condense a good amount of information into a readable article. There might be a few parts where a little more length would have improved it, however. I would have liked to have seen a longer intro possibly. Also, I'm not sure it's necessary to include a definition for forensic entomology, since most people will find this article as a link from the forensic entomology page. Then again, it won't hurt to keep it just in case. The other thing I saw was that you said "bodies exposed in open areas with large amounts of sunlight will heat up giving the insects a warmer area to develop, and increasing their development time." Maybe I'm misinterpreting that sentence, but shouldn't that result in a quicker development, and therefor a decrease in development time? Besides that, I saw a few awkward sentences but I cleaned most of them up. Just minor stuff. All in all, a good article. --Tipitow88 (talk) 07:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I would have liked to see more mention of which class of insects that preferred rainy and humid environments to those that liked dry warm environments in the topic of Moisture Levels. However, after reading on I did see it slightly covered in Geopgraphical distribution. So all in all, this was an interesting subject. Karmijo37, April 15th, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karmijo37 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC) This is a fantasic article. I feel as though that it should have a better introduction and a bit more information in the body paragraph. Good Luck with the assignment!!! Megan(talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Very nice, "too the point" article. The only qualms I have with it are that it's a little too concise, perhaps an inclusion under the first section of an example of how moisture or dryness affect growth. I'm sure there are several publications out there with these findings. Otherwise, good job! 165.91.58.67 (talk) 00:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This is a very "primitive" article... but I love it. It is important that there be information covering the basics. When I started studying Forensinc Entomology I wanted to know the basic parts and highlights of the field and could not find it. I just wish this article was up 3 months ago. Good job!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctmfc (talk • contribs) 14:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys -- just a suggestion, but you might consider changing your title to "Environmental Effects on Forensic Evidence" or something like that ... I had to read your outline before I could figure out what the topic was. Kayla foster (talk) 18:06, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree with changing the title, but I don't really know how to do that. Do I just change the title from the link?Sasquash128 (talk) 01:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)sasquash128

To change the title, use the move tab at the top. This will allow you to change the title and give a reason for the change. Also, you should fix your citations so that each resource gets listed only once. Look at some of the other pages to find out how this is done. Colstewart71639 (talk) 23:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Yall might want to consider linking threshold temperature description to the description from the group that did Insect development during morgue storage and autopsy procedures because its a little more detailed and would better help with the section on degree days. Mikearq (talk) 23:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys, I see that others have already suggested changing the title into something more environmental - I strongly agree. Also, regarding Threshold Temperatures under Degree days, the bold format with one line under it is awkward formatting. Perhaps just think about making it part of the previous paragraph - if not, add more information. One more thing, I really think that your article can be easily linked to other articles regarding evidence gathering and forensic entomology. Great job and good luck. --Gdespejo (talk) 04:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a great article. Here are some minor suggestions: Since we learned in class that climate has the GREATEST influence on insects, I think the reader should understand the magnitude of this external effect. Jbratz (talk) 22:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Also should you discuss the sunlight effect on feeding for certain species? Jbratz (talk) 22:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

You may want to revisit your Degree Day formula, because it assumes that the value for #days is 1, when it's possible that it may be less than one (e.g. A body found at noon has only acquired 12 hours rather than a full day, and the formula would change to

(average temperature - minimum threshold) 0.5 days = ADD

Just a thought. On the whole, you have a great article here. Good work. Noromaru (talk) 03:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Very nice article! Just one minor suggestion; under Moisture Levels you mention that "...there are exceptional species that prefer these conditions." -- I'd love to be able to see which species those are! --Moosenik (talk) 21:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I really liked the article, but the thing that stood out to me was that it seemed more like a collection of interesting facts than an article. It could use some transitions to help it flow together as a piece. In addition, there are some other factors that can be considered that affect the insect colonization. Ngjon87 (talk) 23:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

This is a well written article, but it seems to be very cut and dry. If you broke up your paragraphs a bit and included some images, that would really make this article stand out. Also there needs to be another reference. Foxracer11373 (talk) 02:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

This is a great article. It is very concise but informative. There are a lot of links which is good, so people can look at other pages that are somewhat related to the topic. Really good paper. Very easy to understand for people that may not know anything about the topic. (Medillar (talk) 22:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC))

I definetly agree with some of our fellow classmates that this is a great article but it could be more cohesive. The body of the article doesn't flow together quite as well, which makes it confusing and hard to understand the relationship between variables for non-entomology people. But the information present is very helpful in understanding how forensic entomology affects the world around us!--Cal101387 (talk) 06:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

This article is a difficult read. It seems fairly disorganized, which makes it not flow very well. It would be great to have some specific insect references in the climate section. Without them, the article does not seem much like an entomology article. Pictures would also be great. This is the perfect article for some gruesome environmentally effected bodies. Lastly the sentence, "Rain and humidity levels can affect the time for insect development depending on the amount of rainfall and humidity in the area where the body is found," sounds a little off to me. Maybe it's just me, but is it necessary to have rainfall and humidity twice in that sentence? Pinksugar85 (talk) 02:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

The article was well written and informative. One aspect of the enviornment we noticed that was required in forensics is that the weather data used for a crime scene must be from a certified weather station or a certified independent satation. Not only would this be a good additional section to your article but it would also tie it into the fornsic part more. cinco0513 —Preceding comment was added at 16:12, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review

Really liked this article because it was different and showed another aspect to forensic entomology, not just the bug and death side. I did notice that the degree day formula odesn't have multilication by a unit of time at te end so you'll probably want to correct that. Other than that I enjoyed this article and alos liked how it was to the point. -Lauren —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runwild2006 (talk • contribs) 17:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Howdy! After reading over your article, I wanted to tell you all that it was very helpful and informative on an extensive range of topics within forensic entomology. It was short, concise, and to the point, which is ideal for this sort of writing. However, I felt that I should remind you that it also never hurts to elaborate on some of your broader topics (for instance, go into further detail about why/how climate factors influence insect development). I also have a few other suggestions that I think will really help bring your article together: You might want to consider changing, in the first sentence of the sub-section titled, "Moisture levels," the second use of the words "rainfall and humidity" to either "each" or "both" as this would make the sentence sound much less repetitive. Also, at the end of the third sentence of that sub-section, I would think about adding the words "which is often typically the case in the warmer southern United States." Doing so would greatly smooth out the transition from that sentence to the next one. In the section labeled, "Degree Days" you might want to change the words, "...calculation of a degree day," to "calculation of the number of accumulated degree days," and then since you've done that, I'd then add "x (multiplied by) # of days" to the end of your degree day calculation. Also, you should really add a sub-section under "Degree Days" on degree hours since that is among the most used increments of time in P.M.I. determination. Lastly, I'd like to suggest that the first paragraph of your "Geographic distribution" section be turned into its own sub-section or even full section labeled "Faunal Succession" since it has very little to do with the section it's currently located in. Well that's all I have for you as of now, but I hope you find my comments of some help. Thanks and Gig'em! Lancecameron (talk) 17:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This is a good, fairly easy to read article. There were some grammatical errors, so I changed all of the ones I picked up on (mainly missing commas). You might also check on the usages of affect and effect. I felt that they were switched back and forth, and I'm not sure they were always used in the correct context (but I'm not certain). I noticed that the ADD formula didn't have unit of time. If it was for more than one day, the formula won't work, so I would suggest changing that. Annemarye (talk) 17:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Quite informative article! One possible enhancement that I noticed would be to provide the degree day formula in a graphic (perhaps with a chart-based example) to make it more readable. Also, our assignment article says that “For this assignment, you will need to include AT LEAST three (3) primary and three (3) secondary articles." This one seems to only have 4 sources overall so you may use that opportunity to expand the document.Catgirl357 (talk) 17:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Good topic, but there seemed to be a lack in information. A little more information about each category would have helped, such as formulas, and tables.§Cellimj (talk) 21:18, 16 April 2008 (UTC) cellimj

I think the article was well written. It was easy to read and comprehend for the most part, but I feel that a couple of the topics could have been elaborated on more making it a little easier to understand the concepts of the topics. Pns2010 (talk) 22:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This article is very short and choppy. I think that as a group you tried to stretch things out by adding spaces so you could reach the ten paragraphs minimum requirement. I also think that the article is not necessarily a real importance to Forensic Entomology and I think it would be better if it were merged with another article. By merging it with something else it will make each aspect of your article more important and easier to find for someone who may be looking for these specific topics.Thom2577 (talk) 00:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the article is kind of choppy. It seems sporadic and there isn't a lot of elaboration. For degree days maybe you could put some examples, like we had to do for our test and homework. You could show how entomologists actually use calculations of degree days. Good job so far but I feel like it still needs some more work. Kjw15 (talk) 06:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)