Talk:SY Gondola

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Previous edits to this article can be seen in the article Coniston Water's History. PiP (talk) 06:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Boiler's water supply.

Does anyone know the name of the system where pressure in the boiler is used to draw water out of the lake and into the boiler? ~~- - -~~ BigglesPiP ^{- Talk | Contribs -} 17:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name of article

In accordance with WP:NC-S the name of the artice should be "SY Gondola". Mjroots (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily, can you provide sources first that indicate that the prefix SY was used in connection with this boat? Benea (talk) 18:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Prefix "Steam Yacht" isn't used to identify the boat outside Wikipedia IIRC, it's simply called Gondola. I have no objections to the title being changed to "SY Gondola". ~~- - -~~ BigglesPiP ^{- Talk | Contribs -} 18:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly used as a descriptive term - 'The steam yacht Gondola was originally commissioned...'. Gondola (steam yacht) might be an alternative. Benea (talk) 19:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The National Trust have "Steam yacht Gondola" as a title on their site, but simply call her "Gondola" throughout other text. The bulk of the article, including the section you quoted was contributed by one editor (whom I suspect is actually Roger Mallinson looking at his other contribs.) without references. ~~- - -~~ BigglesPiP ^{- Talk | Contribs -} 19:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gondola (steam yacht) seems like the most appropriate then, to fit with our conventions. viz,

"If a ship is best known in combination with a ship prefix, use the prefix as part of the name" - It doesn't appear to be known as SY Gondola (and I'm not sure how legitimate SY is as a prefix anyway) - so the next step is:
"A ship not known by a prefix should appear under its name only, if that is unambiguous" - Gondola is ambiguous, so we end up with -
"when the name is ambiguous, append disambiguation information in parentheses as usual."

Any objections to Gondola (steam yacht)? Benea (talk) 19:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me, will need to remove "SY" from several places in the article itself too. I don't know the best way to move an article myself, would we also need to edit the DYK nominations page to correct the name? ~~- - -~~ BigglesPiP ^{- Talk | Contribs -} 19:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]