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That went quick. Thanks. Squash Racket (talk) 03:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Luck of the draw. You're welcome. —EncMstr (talk) 03:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Centering timelines

I noticed your work and wondered if you could help me with centering a timeline. User:Dhatfield/Sandbox Dhatfield (talk) 13:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Adams

I note that Sam Adams redirects to Samuel Adams, the revolutionary guy. But he went by Samuel, whereas the mayor-elect (and the beer, for that matter) are really known as Sam. I had a hard time seeing the mayor in the list of Samuels. Any suggestions there, oh admin guy? Maybe a separate Sam Adams dab page? I was wary of stepping on toes there. --Esprqii (talk) 18:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a tricky one. Every Sam I know is a nickname for Samuel, so a redirect is appropriate for navigating to the right one. Making Sam Adams into a dab of people known as Sam interlinked with the Samuels is likely just as, if not more, confusing as a single list of Samuels. I kinda think Sam Adams should redirect to Samuel Adams (disambiguation) for the reason you give. The dab list isn't that long, but it could be structured better—maybe like John Adams (disambiguation) is broken down. —EncMstr (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think your solution of having Sam Adams go to a better organized Samuel Adams dab page is the right idea. I think someone searching for "Sam Adams" is more likely than not searching for someone other than the rev war guy. Maybe I'll be bold on that later, unless you have the itch now... --Esprqii (talk) 20:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RTOS list

Thanks for your work on List of Real-time operating systems. Ghettoblaster (talk) 21:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that should address everyone's interests: keep the main article clutter free, provide a place for an exhaustive list which every RTOS developer wants, provide a check list for potential customers, and avoid WP:NOT a link farm, since it provides useful details.
It ought to be expanded slightly with columns for royalties and fees, source open or closed, approximate deployment numbers, and initial date of development. Feel free to expand it. —EncMstr (talk) 21:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good work on the list, thank you N'SallaNuto (talk) 06:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi EncMstr. I just want to let you know that the article that corresponds to the Fusion RTOS redlink has been deleted (see: [1]). I don't think that this was the right decision. It would have been better to give people a chance fix some of its content. Your opinion? Ghettoblaster (talk) 09:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gustafson Logging

From: Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)

"An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources."

The company has been the subject of coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources.

"All content must be verifiable."

All content is verifiable.

 Done

~ WikiDon (talk) 22:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is an understandable interpretation, however I'm not sure that the article fulfills the obligations of notability:
  • There is only one source. The standard is reliable, independent sources: That is, two or more.
  • I haven't seen Ax-men, but was the episode about lumberjacks, and not about Gustafson Logging itself?
EncMstr (talk) 22:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whew!

Well, you're right -- I am knocking myself out because this is much more involved than I'd thought. That odd Antique Power Museum has its own article, so the intricacies of it can be explained there, but my hope was that the list could at least name everything that calls itself a museum in Oregon. As I look at it now, it seems to me that the Summary section for that item is really difficult to read. I do think all those names should be on the page. Perhaps in a list of 14 items below the sortable table (I'd take various items out of "Alternate names" because those items really don't fit there). I still want to work on this through the end of the week, but I think I'm going to be leaving most of the "summary" entries blank, except for website links. That's the way another editor does it, and now I see why. In any event, I'm going to work on it a bit more and then hand it all over to you guys to delete or rewrite or rearrange how you like. I will stop knocking myself out, though. Thanks for the note. Noroton (talk) 01:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, to answer your question, my completely uneducated guess is that there are potentially 50-60 more items. I think I found about eight previously unlisted items in the Coast sections of the museum association and state tourist authority websites. Multiply that by seven regions in total and it's in the range of 50 to 60. Just a guess. Noroton (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I meant deleting various things in it or doing things in a different way. Even having something there that is deleted at least gets someone thinking about the list, which may help to maintain it in the long run. My own interest is in having state lists so full that I can later mine them for, say, a "List of timber industry museums in the United States", or "List of clock and watch museums in the United States". Those, in turn, would be useful links to someone reading articles on those subjects. I'm also hoping that the red links on the lists will tempt editors into creating articles. Noroton (talk) 02:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

QWERTY: Oregon COTW

Hello WikiProject Oregon participants, time for another edition of Collaboration of the Week. Last week we made some great improvements to Wallowa-Whitman National Forest and Oregon Ballot Measure 47 (1996), with a DYK for the forest. Great job everyone! This week we have another stub, George Lemuel Woods, one of only two governor stubs left, and should be an easy job getting it to Start class. Then, in honor of the long weekend, we have our second State Park Article Creation Drive. Lots of red links to turn blue, lots of opportunities for DYKs. Help if you can, even if it is only adding pictures of state parks. To opt out of these messages, leave your name here, or click here to make a suggestion. May the The Schwartz be with you. Aboutmovies (talk) 10:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip Sorry still trying to figure it all out. :) (~JDM~) (talk) 03:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blond

Hi EncMstr, unfortunately it may need protecting again, looking at the edit history. Could you look into it if you have time? Perebynis (talk) 08:52, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, looks like a bunch of anons are being disruptive. It's protected for two months this time. —EncMstr (talk) 09:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now there is a poll about that photo on Blond. Perhaps you will wish to help achieve consensus. rewinn (talk) 21:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hi, I was just wondering, being a fairly new user, how to revert more than one edit. A vandal, User:66.188.195.181, had vandalized To Kill a Mockingbird (film), twice. I reverted both seperately, not knowing what to do. Then I noticed you had reverted four edits on Marcus Whitman all at once. Is this a admin thing, or how do you do it? Just wondering, LittleMountain5 02:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks LittleMountain5 14:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sid Haig Page

Thank you for fixing the layout around that image. I didn't know how to do that without multiple breaks. Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.199.200 (talk) 04:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. In the future, write in the edit summary your intent. That way someone like me doesn't have to think so hard to figure out what you were doing.  :-) —EncMstr (talk) 04:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re: Blond

Hello. I am referring to the space within the Geographic location section. There is only enough space for the map, anything else pushes down into the Culturally related ideas section. CanuckAnthropologist (talk) 20:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

X marks the WPOR COTW spot

Guten Tag WikiProject Oregon team members! Great job last week with the Collaboration of the Week, we improved George Lemuel Woods and added eleven new state park articles. This past week we also surpassed the 6000 article mark as a project. The weather may suck, but WPORE is not. For this week we have by request Music of Oregon and Phil Knight. Both need some help, and with Knight we might be able to improve it to GA standards. Once again, to opt out of these messages, leave your name here, or click here to make a suggestion. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fonzie says good job

The COTW award from WPOR.
Thanks for leading the way in last week's Collaboration of the Week!
For making parks happen. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page move

Re: User_talk:Peteforsyth#Page move, am I gonna screw anything up? Northwesterner1 (talk) 01:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, for the help. I created the two disambig pages Blue Mountain and Blue Mountains. One last thing seems to need fixing: The Blue Mountains talk page is currently pointing to Blue Mountains (Australia). Northwesterner1 (talk) 02:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. Also, I made a merge suggestion on the unredirected talk page. —EncMstr (talk) 02:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please protect my page User talk:68.4.176.68

The page protection from my talk page has expired. Since then, the 75.47.xxx.xxx IP continues to stalk me and edit my talk page and my comments. Please protect my page, and please make it indefinite if you can. Thanks. And yes, I'm aware I can't edit my page either. 68.4.176.68 (talk) 03:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I'll investigate further in a little while. —EncMstr (talk) 03:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Racist abuse

Hi friend, you've done good work in blocking Vyaghradhataki and his sock-puppets. :-) . I wish to approach you with the issue of this Pakistani editor indulging in personal abuse, racism and religious fanaticism directed against me. I don't wish to go public with this issue due to personal reasons. However, it is a dire breach of civility and this user must be blocked. Thank you!

This is what he has said in my talk page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ravichandar84&diff=prev&oldid=216444420

"If you re-add the image again then I will go around and find the worst images of Hindus and place them in all Indian related articles."


Also, have a look at the article Pashtun people. I have not been examining it for a long time though but I suspect that he has been trying to take ownership of the article. Do take the kind of action you deem appropriate. I don't think such editors (who are upto no good) should be allowed to remain and edit Wikipedia. Thanks. It will also be good if you could semi-protect my talkpage as I shall not be logging in for quite sometime and there is a definite possibility that this user might come back with more attacks -RavichandarMy coffee shop 23:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be user coming from a variety of IP addresses all originating in Pakistan. As far as I know, there is no satisfactory solution for this. A range block might be possible, but requires the consensus of several admins. Your talk page is semi-protected for 3 months, since that is about the amount of time since the last IP (other than the vandal) has used it, when it was protected before. —EncMstr (talk) 23:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much :-). -RavichandarMy coffee shop 23:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess there has been some edit war on between this particular editor and another IP for quite sometime there. Well, the editor claims that the image is offensive. Well, I am ready for any discussion with regard to this. But then, I feel that unless there are a considerable number of people in agreement with his views, the removal of the image may very well regarded as POV. Also, he had been maliciously tagging the image for deletion just because he does'nt like it despite the fact that the copyright-status of the image has been clearly expressed . Have a look at this
http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Image:Old_Pathan_1921.JPG&action=history -RavichandarMy coffee shop 23:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Racism

Punjabi old man from India.

Ravichandar is a racist Hindu from India and has uploaded the image of the homeless looking poor Punjabi old man from India so he can add to Pashtun people article. We cannot verify the information on the image because there is no link provided. This racist Hindu claimed that he personally took the image from the National Geographic magazine, this is hard to believe because if that was the case this racist Hindu would have added some more detailed information like where the photo was shot at. We have no idea if he is Pashtun, a Punjabi or something else. I believe Ravichandar is another racist editor trying to express his ill feelings towards Pashtuns because most Hindus hate Pashtuns for backing Pakistan in case there is war between Pakistan and India as well as other reasons. Like how Ahmad Shah Durrani (Pashtun) defeated 100,000s Hindus 7 times. We know today that India's economy may be rising but it is still one of the poorest country on earth due to very large number of beggers who are starving everyday. The Pashtuns are not rich but also not beggers like the 100s of millions of Hindus in India. I can provide sources for everything I have explained here. That image does not belong in Pashtun people article so it should be removed because it is clearly offending a large group of people. The only thing the image expresses is extreme poverty. This Hindu racist does not know what is offensive so we have to teach this to him, her or it. All that nice writings he does is meaningless if he has dirty thoughts towards a large ethnic group, that's just plain evil. I'm very upset, as a common neutral editor, at him adding an image of poor old man that may not even be Pashtun to the article of Pashtun people. What was his purpose for adding that image anyway? At first he tried to put it in the info box [2], that's a clear sign that he wanted to mock Pashtuns. That's an act of a vandal. I nicely explained my concern to him on its talk page one time only there was no reason to protect his talk page because I didn't revert anything there. Him/her wishing I get blocked is another indication that he is extreme anti-Pashtun or anti-Pakistani.--119.30.71.201 (talk) 05:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]