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Bjweeks

Voice your opinion (talk page) (70/8/5); Scheduled to end 01:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Bjweeks (talk · contribs) - Bjweeks is a user who I've seen around quite a lot on the image front. Let me just be blunt for a minute; we need more image administrators, and here's one that does just that. His bot, User:BJBot has done a lot on the image front to help us out there, and as far as I can tell after looking (pretty hard, may I add) through his contribs I see very little evidence of controversy. To be able to run an imagebot without controversy is great in itself. Of course, images are Bjweeks' specialty, hence why I'm making sure I harp on that subject. If you look through his contribs though, you'll see he's a civil user who knows what he's doing, and really there's no reason not to give him the tools. Of course, he also does a lot of bot-related work, such as at BRFA. I'm not a bot specialist, so I'm sure he can discuss that more if needed. Plus, he knows what he's doing at the AfD front. All in all, a great candidate. Wizardman 01:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I gratefully accept, thank you. BJTalk 01:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?
A: As a member of the Bot Approvals Group I could use the admin tool the course my duties to blocking malfunctioning or unauthorized bots. I also often get request by the uploaders of images to delete images that they uploaded or undelete images so they can be brought into compliance with the NFCC. I would like to help with the image backlogs at WP:IfD and WP:PUI that often get long backlogs. If needed I would also help at the image deletion categories and article deletions (CSD/prod).
2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
A: I think my best contribution is BJBot which has saved countless man hours of image review allowing the human reviewers to concentrate on images the criteria that need human review. I don't have much in the way of article writing, I do more gnome work, adding cite templates and formatting. (examples here: [1][2][3])
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: I have been in a few minor content disputes in the past and resolved them quickly. There was a dispute about BJBot that I feel I could have handled better by better explaining myself and trying to understand the other users concerns.

General comments

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Bjweeks before commenting.

Discussion

Support
  1. Support as nom. Wizardman 01:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support - yes definitely.And Wizardman had to get me into an ec « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support MBisanz talk 01:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support. Good user. Malinaccier (talk) 01:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Y3S! Al Tally talk 01:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support per Wizardman's nomination. We need more Image admins, and BJW seems to be just the person for this. --Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 01:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support - A specialist. Wisdom89 (T / C) 01:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support per nom. I was surprised that this user wasn't already an admin, actually. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 02:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Like the man said, we need more image admins. Anything to stop me getting drawn into it! --Stephen 03:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support responsible bot maker, good editor. Has no malicious intent and would make a good level headed admin. --Nn123645 (talk) 03:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Absolutely trustworthy. I think BJ will make a fine admin. SQLQuery me! 04:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  12. I am compelled by "we need more image administrators". –thedemonhog talk • edits 04:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  13. OK. Dlohcierekim 05:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    As candidate has proposed a narrow use for the tools, a specialist operating in a narrow realm, I don't see the lack of experience in other areas as a problem. As the candidate proposes to use the tools in an area some of us avoid, this would certainly be a benefit to the project. There is no certainty that any of us would not run amok. Without evidence to the contrary, the most beneficial choice is to trust the candidate. Dlohcierekim 15:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Support, I see no reason to believe user would abuse or misuse the tools (and more admins in image-related areas are always needed). --Rory096 05:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support per recent friendly usertalk page interaction as well as strong argument at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Goldmember. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Support. Kind of weak in the mainspace, a majority of your last 1000 article edits were via some automated tool. I also think bots are irrelevant at RFAs. But you do have quite a bit of experience and you work with images. It's a go from me. Useight (talk) 06:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Support. Given how arcane Wikipedia's image system and policies can be, another admin who knows what they're doing in that area would certainly help. ~ mazca talk 06:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  18. support Recongnising that there are some legitimate concerns voice in Neutral and comments above, I am also keenly aware of the need for more image working administrators. On balance "risk / reward" seems to indicate a net positive. Pedro :  Chat  07:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Yay! Good BAG work + per Pedro. giggy (:O) 10:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Support Good image and bot work, will do lots of good. Harland1 (t/c) 13:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  21. Support. User in fact does not tend to run amok. ➪HiDrNick! 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Support. More admin who is skill in this area DKNY89 (talk) 13:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  23. Support. net positive. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Support - Need more specialists. BlueQ99 (talk) 13:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  25. Support - Seems trustworthy and helpful. --Explodicle (talk) 13:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  26. Trustable bot operator, image admins are a great plus. Rudget (logs) 14:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  27. Naerii - Talk 15:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  28. Support Talented specialist admins are just as valuable as talented specialist editors. Dppowell (talk) 16:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  29. Support A bit concerned about the allegations in the oppose, below, I'm also taking on board East718's assessment of the incident. Contribs look good to me, no reason not to trust with the buttons. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 16:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  30. Support Deli nk (talk) 16:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  31. I thought he was one already LegoKontribsTalkM 17:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  32. Support Good candidate ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 18:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Support however in the nom, remember we are not trying to grant admin to BJBot. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 18:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  33. Support. — Athaenara ✉ 19:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  34. Support. I believe that more admins in image-related areas are always needed. --Kaaveh (talk) 19:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  35. Yup, knows his stuff and will certainly be a benefit. I'm not concerned that he might not use the tools as much as others, the point is that when he does use them, I'll trust him to do an effective job. Ryan Postlethwaite 21:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  36. Weak support due to bj's lack of understanding about roche copyrights Monobi (talk) 22:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  37. Support per Ryan Postlethwaite. Vishnava talk 22:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  38. Support with pleasure. krimpet✽ 23:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  39. Support, per Wizardman's nomination statement; I see no problems here. Anthøny 23:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  40. Support I think he'll be fine. So what if he's an image and bot specialist, more power to him. Sumoeagle179 (talk) 23:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  41. Support This user has the experience, and my trust. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 23:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  42. Support From his work in bots I can see he is truly devoted to improving the encyclopedia. His commitment to image issues is another plus. Chimeric Glider (talk) 23:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  43. Support I would trust this user with the tools, and I anticipate his focus in images will make his use of the tools a great help to the encyclopedia. His botwork only increases my support. ⇔ ∫ÆS dt @ 00:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  44. Support User has shown he will be a highly capable specialist admin. If approved, keep your focus on what you already do well and you will be just fine.--Finalnight (talk) 01:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  45. Support Agree w/ Wizardman (talk · contribs). Cirt (talk) 04:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  46. Support - We need more image admins. He'll do fine. LaraLove|Talk 04:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  47. Support but on the strict understanding that this is an RFA for Bjweeks and NOT any of his bots. I would expect a second RFA if you intend to run bot jobs from a sysop account. Stifle (talk) 10:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  48. Support The others said it best...and first. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:24, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  49. Support per all of the above. As the nom said, admins with experience in this sort of thing are needed and appreciated and this user looks like they'll do a good job. Shereth 13:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  50. Support No reason not to. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 14:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  51. Support. Deletion work, especially in the image arena, is an important part of maintaining Wikipedia. No problems here with user contribs or attitudes. Tan | 39 17:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  52. Support I fully agree with Wizardman when he states we need more administrators who are willing to use their tools in the image department. WP:IfD has a huge backlog, and so does WP:PUI. I have faith that this user will help in these areas not only because he has stated he will, but also because he works heavily with images. This user has clearly demonstrated a need for the tools, which for me is important. Through his work tagging images for deletion he has proved himself to be pretty accurate, which shows he understands the policies he will be working with as an admin. This user not only has demonstrated a need for the tools, but he has also shown he won't misuse the tools. These two things, in the case of this user, are enough for me to support him. Some of his comments on the bot owners' noticeboard are a little rude, however, overall he has proved himself to be kind.--SJP (talk) 19:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  53. Support per Wizardman's nomination. --John (talk) 20:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  54. Support Given the (initial) parameters in which the tools may be used, and the candidates expertise within those areas, I have no qualms in respect of Bjweeks ability to use the tools appropriately. With regard to concerns raised in respect of off-wiki comments, I see no effect on the candidates on-wiki processes and therefore conclude that any unfortunate personal mindset will not prejudice their sysop functions (which are generally related to determining consensus and judging the application of various policies and remedies). LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  55. Support - he meets my standards for RfA, and I can't see the drama per opposes. Bearian (talk) 23:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  56. Experienced with images: Bjweeks' knowledge in that area will be an even greater asset when he is an administrator. Acalamari 23:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  57. Support Seems fine. Opposes aren't really convincing, and we need more admins working with images. GlassCobra 00:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  58. Support. IFD needs more hands. MrPrada (talk) 02:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  59. Support, I think he'll do a fine job. Mike H. Fierce! 07:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  60. Grapes. — CharlotteWebb 17:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  61. Someone who wants to deal with image copyrights? Support. Mr.Z-man 19:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  62. Support. There is nothing wrong with specializing, images in particular can be very complicated and I think Bjweeks can do a good job in this area. I trust this user and the opposing comments have done nothing to dissuade me. Rje (talk) 00:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Rje, I 100% agree with you when you say "There is nothing wrong with specializing..." Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with many tasks that must be done, for an example, article writing, fighting vandalism, etc. If these two tasks, and many others that I didn't name, weren't done then it would not only be impossible for us to build up a high quality encyclopedia, but it would be impossible for us to even exist. For each task to be done is a high quality manner, we must have numerous people devoted to each task. Also, some users may only really enjoy doing one task. They shouldn't have to do a task they really hate.--SJP (talk) 04:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  63. OMG I FORGOT SUPPORT...yeah these supports aren't going to get me adminship.... CWii(Talk|Contribs) 01:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  64. CWii really needs to calm down support - User would be a net benefit with the tools. Soxred 93 05:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  65. Desu. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 06:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  66. Support Guy has experience Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  67. Support times sixty seven. No need to elaborate, since experience speaks for itself. -iaNLOPEZ1115 12:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  68. Support Hardly matters for me that the nom plays up only the bot functions (..and the bot IS good!) and AfD participations. A look at the editor's contributions says that he is experienced and can be trusted with the tools. Prashanthns (talk) 13:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  69. Support, meets my criteria. Good luck! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 17:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  70. Support - I always trust Wizardman to come up with good noms, and this one doesn't fail my expectations. As he says, there aren't many admins in the image category. Lradrama 18:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  71. Support - Sounds good to me.Wikimaster97 (talk) 19:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  1. Strong Oppose. I don't see where this candidate needs the admin tool just to run a bot and participate in AFD. Also, it would be nice to see more contributions from the candidate in terms of creating content rather than deleting it. We already have enough self-appointed image copyright cops armed with bots. We don't need another Betacommander running amok.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) (talk) 13:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    RfA isn't about whether a candidate needs the tools, it's about whether the community trusts the user with the tools. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Exactly, and this user has done nothing in the way of content creation to show he is worthy of that trust.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) (talk) 05:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you have specific concerns about candidate's knowledge of image policies that would lead you to believe would misuse/abuse the tools? Actually, we need more knowledgeable admins willing to deal with image related issues. We certainly need fewer images with questionable copyright status. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 15:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Anyone who is more interested in deleting content rather than creating or improving it should not be entrusted with the tools IMO. Also, oppose under 1FA. Let him write a featured article, on a topic other than video games, and then consider giving him a mop and bucket.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) (talk) 05:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Strong oppose - I cannot support someone who supports what is unquestionably external sexual harassment of Wikipedians. Any interested administrator may email me for proof, but the nature of the evidence is such that I cannot post it on Wikipedia. Sceptre (talk) 15:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That's a fairly serious allegation to throw around in a cryptic fashion, I expect you can tell us just about everything without directly quoting the E-mail whatever it was? With such a serious accusation, I would expect at least to hear a little more detail.... SQLQuery me! 16:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The evidence in question doesn't warrant this spurious accusation, and is pretty comical coming from somebody who has engaged in rather unseemly harassment of female admins in the past. east.718 at 16:03, June 17, 2008
    The incident in my RFA #2 happened over two years ago and I've shown genuine remorse for it. Besides, just because I've done something that I've criticised something for doesn't mean my argument is invalid. Sceptre (talk) 16:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia IRC channel logs. Suffice it to say, he has vouched support, and even finds humorous, several pages on the internet dedicated to harassing female members of Wikipedia. Sceptre (talk) 16:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Tuesday? 6 months ago? 3 years ago? So... What you're getting at, is that the cantidate has a poor sense of humor, that they keep off-wiki? SQLQuery me! 16:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Five months ago. And I'm pretty sure Wikipedia channel logs are actionable. But at the same time, I see no evidence of him wishing to retract his support. Sceptre (talk) 16:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Even if I trusted third party chatlogs, and didn't have to pull teeth to get even basic information information on this incident, the portion I believe you're referring to (about someone or another not fitting a stereotype), doesn't seem "actionable" at all to me, nor relevant to this RFA. Honestly, I don't see that even being mildly bad. I would encourage Bj to paste the relevant portions of the logs somewhere, just so everyone can see exactly what the "problem" is. SQLQuery me! 16:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Even so, he finds harassment of other Wikipedians amusing, because he thinks that the libellious statements are truthful. That, for me, is a no-brainer reason for opposing, without even getting into sexual harassment. Sceptre (talk) 16:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    ED is a wiki that contains profiles of some Wikipedia editors, among other things. Some of these profiles "cross the line" and start including personal information, other just have an (often poor) picture and some diff links. I think that there is nothing we can do to affect ED and the WP:BADSITES drama was very silly. The paranoia that was built up against everything surrounding the site was disruptive. I'd like to clarify that I was not trying to convey that I supported ED, more that I opposed BADSITES and paranioa around any of the "bad sites" (ED, WR, et al.). Regarding the libel comment, I was trying to say that ED's profiles are so absurd that nobody takes them seriously. BJTalk 16:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    So why did you say, and I quote, "the wikipedia section is [on ED] funny for me because so much of it is true"? Sceptre (talk) 16:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    ED has many parody pages about our processes that often leads to (over the top) drama. Am I not allowed to find those funny? BJTalk 16:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What does "ED" stand for? –thedemonhog talk • edits 17:01, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Encyclopedia Dramatica. BJ, given the comment you made moments later, I'm not buying that you find just the parody of process funny. Sceptre (talk) 17:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Oooh, Encyclopedia Dramatica. –thedemonhog talk • edits 17:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I was just explaining the joke how I saw it intended, the editor in question is the "anti-stereotype" of Wikipedia editors. I understand why you have a strong dislike for the site, you and editors you work with have been at the brunt of most of their attacks. I respect your oppose but I'm not here to argue about my sense of humour and will let it stand without further comment. BJTalk 17:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I imagine there are lots of admins whose off-wiki activity I'd find weird, distasteful, or even immoral; I'm inclined to take such "evidence" under advisement and let the on-wiki actions remain the primary barometer. Dppowell (talk) 16:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Oppose Nom is just about a bot and per first oppose comment. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 18:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm a bot? (confused) Wizardman 22:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Just about, apparently. Do you have stairs in your house? UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 22:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey now AGF...Wizardbot is here to protect us from the terrible secrets of space!--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) (talk) 05:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Stewie, sweety, we're not giving the tools to the bot, this is a real person. Did you get confused? ScarianCall me Pat! 15:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That generally happens when he tries to analyse something. Daniel (talk) 07:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No, i'm not stupid! I mean, the version of the nom I read, it seems like they only want the tools for thier bot work. Plus, I don't think the nom is that good. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 15:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Oppose User has not done enough to prove dedication to the project/understanding of procedure. Juppiter (talk) 19:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. While we've previously adhered (collectively) to the "not harmful = promote" paradigm, the project has grown in maturity since those days. I have been unable to locate substantial engagement with article space, and the candidate has not made a convincing argument w.r.t. How the project will benefit from their possessing a few extra buttons. - brenneman 00:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Per Brenneman. Hiding T 12:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Oppose OMG! FU! Delete! -- We don't need another example of the "it's better to delete than to create" philosophy in the ranks of admins. Their overrepresentation is excessive. Candidate makes no representation about content addition or about fixing problem images instead of nuking them. --SSBohio 03:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Oppose, as far as I can tell, this amount of content that the candidate has contributed has been minimal. His bot certainly does some useful work, but you don't need to be an admin to run a bot. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Neutral
  1. Neutral.I'm at a fence here. Bjbot is awesome. He is great and is up there with the top bots on Wikipedia. You are are very good with images, almost professional. But after studying your contributions I have found that you almost ignore articles. And the edits you have made to articles aren't all that. Before you can get my support, I think you should be better with editing articles. You've only had one biggish conflct but you handled that perfectly compared to me. Keep up the great work but right now I'm not ready to support you.Gears Of War 02:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Neutral. Not sure here. On the one hand, I agree with the nominator that we could use more admins to work specifically with images and Bjweeks is certainly qualified. On the other, users who focus largely on image work without much in the way of other contributions often seem to rub people the wrong way. I worry that the lack of communication in responding to complaints about his bot in this thread bodes ill for when he has to field a lot of questions about why he has deleted various images. That said, his early work since joining BAG seems to be going well and I am aware of no complaints. WjBscribe 03:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Neutral while the candidate has shown himself trustworthy with a tool almost as powerful as admin buttons (the bot) the failure to understand why oppose #2 saw a serious issue means I have to withhold my support. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 11:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Neutral - per the first three opposes. --Cameron (T|C) 18:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Neutral — per WJBscribe. macytalk 18:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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