Talk:Thomas & Friends series 12

Not Supposed To Be Here!

You are not supposed to be posting anything from Season 12 and beyond. This artical will surely be deleted unless you can provide a decent reference. Diesel 10 10:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

There was a ref on the Season 11 page (you may need to look at early history) regarding Pierce Brosnan and 'future series'. Beyond that I can't believe that anything can be written about this series yet. Hence, page deletion may not be an option, I'm afraid, but you should be able to ditch anything that's unreferenced... EdJogg 12:40, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

A Thomas Movie in the movies?

People are saying Engines Save Christmas is going to be in the movies? Thomasfan, do you think its true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icecream102 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

SPAM

It's happening already...I deleted it all this time...-SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.99.218 (talk) 22:00, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I thought spam means users who distract other users into going to websites they don't want to go. Oh well. TobytheTramEngine 21:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

?Maybe I'm wrong. All i know is that somebody made up a bunch of ep.s and trivia,and a character list.-SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.99.218 (talk) 22:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I call it vandalism. TobytheTramEngine 17:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

One of many things to call it. Thanks though -SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.99.218 (talk) 02:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Confirmation

I have written to HiT Entertainment and I recieved confirmation that Duck and Oliver will appear in S12 those are the returning characters confirmed so far. For Wikiproject Thomas --S.C.Ruffeyfan 16:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

That will be welcome news to many Thomas fans. Unfortunately, a personal email is not good enough to claim as a Reliable Source, so we must maintain a hard line until we can provide a cite for this information. Standby for another raft of speculative edits about Duck and Oliver...

EdJogg 16:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Um.... A copyright email (example, HIT Entertainment) isn't a reliable source? TobytheTramEngine (talk) 01:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that counts as a 'primary source', and WP is not supposed to use them. There is also the problem of accessibility (to the information): as the email has not been 'published', no-one else can see it to confirm any claims made in the article, relying on that source. If HIT sent the email to a newspaper, and they chose to print it, THAT would be OK to cite, since the newspaper is a secondary source. Please don't take my word for it though (I'm no expert!), I'm sure there are help pages on WP that can resolve this for you.

Good luck. EdJogg (talk) 03:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 04:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to take a pic of the letter for proof. The top will be cut off as it shows my address. --S.C.Ruffeyfan 15:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

News Received

http://www.kidscreen.com/articles/magazine/20080101/thomas.html

This website shows new characters confirmed for Season 12. I'll be happy to put then up if you say so. --Thejdogman (talk) 09:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it depressing how 'Thomas' is now viewed from a commercial viewpoint? Some of this cite could well be used in the 'Merchandise' article (or elsewhere).

Yes, feel free to add the new information, remembering to cite this website. If we get in first we can better control the quality of the edits!

EdJogg (talk) 10:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

We should put this on the page. I have a feeling that Flora the Tram Engine might be like Rosie and idolise Thomas, but she might idolise Toby. We need to find some promo pics later this year. Hank the Big American Engine might boast a bit and Colin the Crane might be like Rocky. NOTE: I am not prancing around being false. I just think this. Check the web for updates, people. --S.C.Ruffeyfan 19:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Let's add the info. I'm now very excited about S12. SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 22:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me if I remain un-excited by the news... :o)

Before you all get carried away, remember that only verifiable, referenced information should be added here. That way we can safely hack-and-burn any fan speculation that escapes from the forums...

Also remember that 'promo pictures' are likely to remain copyright of HIT, and, if you read the referenced article, they are unlikely to release anything into the public domain...

EdJogg (talk) 00:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, i don't see why people like these would lie about it. I think the info. should be added into he article.SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I added the infomation in and I'm sorry that it's a bit messy so you can fix it up. --Thejdogman (talk) 11:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. I have changed the names to match the format used in the ref, as we cannot be certain what 'official' names might be applied.

NOTE - as for previous seasons, these characters should NOT be added to other pages until the programmes have been broadcast and it is possible to verify that the characters actually exist. Please watch out for (and remove) such edits on other pages.

EdJogg (talk) 13:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, if we don't add them to character pages, some people may believe them to be spam, and remove it. Hank,Flora,Stanley should be added to the page with the SG engines, while, Colin is hard call cause we've had road cranes, train cranes, normal cranes, etc. We don't know which he'll be but untill, we do, he should be added to the non-rail section. Does anyone agree?SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 14:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

You cannot add them to a character page because you don't know anything about them. They may be standard or narrow gauge, or neither! And, as you point out, you have no idea what sort of crane Colin is. No-one will believe them to be 'spam' if they stay on this page, with the reference to allow the reader to verify that what we have written is true. That is why we have references.

If you start adding these characters to the character pages, other editors will be quite justified in removing them as 'fan speculation' (or, as you put it, 'spam').

EdJogg (talk) 00:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Alright. I just wanted to make sure.24.229.233.168 (talk) 04:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Possible Character Confirmations

With the release of Smudger, Proteus, and Isabella in wodden, and re-release of Duke, there's a good chance that these characters may appear in S12. Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. 14:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I think they're being re-released because of this year's video releases. Isabella was on the cover of the Mud, Glorious Mud video and I believe Rusty to the Rescue is being reissued, which would explain Duke and Smudger. I'm assuming that "The Magic Lamp" is on one release if they're making Proteus. I think they reissued Daisy, Toad, and Derek a while back for similar reasons. Starkiller (talk) 15:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

eddie?

One of the episodes says that a character named Eddie appears. Is this true?