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Nayib Bukele

... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) has referred to himself as the "coolest dictator in the world"?
... that following its deconsecration, the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore in Venice and its grounds have been used as a stable, a tobacco warehouse, and a prison?
... that television director Diana Edwards-Jones introduced earpieces to permit direct communication between a control room and newsreaders?
... that St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill, contains a font designed by John Francis Bentley and in which he was later baptised?
... that the 1983 Spanish floods were the most economically damaging in Spain until the 2024 Spanish floods?
... that the medieval Castle Knob was the site of a Cold War nuclear monitoring station?
... that Zhou Houkun wrote a thesis on the use of bamboo to reinforce concrete?
... that Burrito Express began shipping out its burritos by mail because of demand from former customers who had moved away from California?
... that weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu drank six huge glasses of beer to help himself urinate for a drug test?

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on August 4

... that Harriet Nevins used her dead husband's money to leave an animal shelter, a library, and Blackburn Hall (pictured) to the people of Massachusetts? - self nom...I thought "dead husband's money" made the hook a little more exciting. - House of Scandal (talk) 00:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that British athlete Stan Cox was nearly killed after being struck with a javelin while working as a judge for the British Amateur Athletic Association? -- new article self-nom by Cheers, CP 00:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added some links. -74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that hair care entrepreneur Joe Dudley was mistakenly labeled as mentally retarded in the first grade because of a speech impediment? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 00:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why focus on the negative? --74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 3

... that scapular fracture can be caused by forceful muscle contractions due to a seizure or electrical shock? Self nom, moved from userspace. Source is here, p. 504, top of second paragraph. Alt: use "[[scapular fracture|fracture of the shoulder blade]]". delldot talk 00:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that British fencer Mary Glen-Haig was the first female member of the International Olympic Committee? -- new article self-nom by Cheers, CP 22:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Mary Shelley (pictured) published her first work, History of a Six Weeks' Tour, in November 1817, about six weeks before Frankenstein? (self nom; new article) Awadewit (talk) 21:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT:... that History of a Six Weeks' Tour contains the first and only publication of Percy Bysshe Shelley's poem Mont Blanc within his lifetime? Awadewit (talk) 21:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT:... that Mary Wollstonecraft's travel narrative Letters Written in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark influenced History of a Six Weeks' Tour, largely written by her daughter, Mary Shelley? Awadewit (talk) 21:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the official nature and reputation of the Carey Mission made it a headquarters for settlers and a point from which the American frontier was extended? (created by User:Zariane, nominated by User:Masterpiece2000) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 21:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that despite being found in coastal waters from Madagascar to New Guinea, the orangespotted trevally (Carangoides bajad, pictured) is only exploited in the southern Persian Gulf? Expended x10 today by Kare Kare (talk · contribs), nom by Circeus (talk) 20:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT: ... that the orangespotted trevally (Carangoides bajad, pictured) is believed to be able to switch between silvery grey and orange-yellow colorations? Circeus (talk) 20:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the title roles in the blaxploitation film The Black Six were played by six then-current National Football League stars? -- new article self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 19:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the first African-American woman to serve as a full-time municipal court judge in New Jersey was appointed by Jersey City’s youngest mayor, Paul T. Jordan, in 1976? -- new article, self-nom by Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 18:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ...that Paul T. Jordan became the youngest mayor in the history of Jersey City, New Jersey only three years after graduating from medical school? Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 22:40, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Woodard Bay Natural Resource Conservation Area is the location of a new type of habitat conservation program focused on restoring the native Olympia oyster? (new/self) • Freechild'sup? 17:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that John McNamara and Jimy Williams are the only two Boston Red Sox managers to be awarded the AL Manager of the Year Award? Created by « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 16:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Expansion by User:K. Annoyomous24. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 16:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that feminist attorney and political scientist Jo Freeman first published her most famous essay, "The Tyranny of Structurelessness," under her movement name "Joreen"? Self-nom of greatly expanded stub by Dwalls (talk) 16:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that feministJo Freeman was moved from Mississippi by the SCLC in 1966 after the Jackson Daily News’ front page denounced her as a professional agitator and ran five photos provided by the Mississippi State Sovereignty Commission? Self-nom of greatly expanded stub by Dwalls (talk) 21:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that while male Kashmir Gray Langurs are usually protective of infants, they sometimes engage in infanticide? -- new article self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 15:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Sakuradamon Incident of 1932 was an unsuccessful assassination attempt against Emperor Hirohito of Japan by a Korean nationalist? <self-nom> --MChew (talk) 15:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the satirist Stephen Colbert (pictured) has a species of spider called Aptostichus stephencolberti named after him? Self-nom by ISD (talk) 14:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Length and reference verified. Great catchy hook, by the way. :-) Jamie^☆S93 16:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that plans to build the Belarusian Nuclear Power Plant in the vicinity of Minsk were halted after the Chernobyl accident? -- expanded significantly. Beagel (talk) 12:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Sabu to Ichi Torimono Hikae, a 1968 manga created by Shotaro Ishimori, won the 1968 Shogakukan Manga Award? - self nom by ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 09:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that So Amazin', the third studio album by singer Christina Milian, was produced mainly by hip hop producers Cool & Dre? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 06:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Nevins Farm and Equine Center in Methuen, Massachusetts has an international ambulance service for horses? - self nom by House of Scandal (talk) 06:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that between US$400,000 and $500,000 of the budget for upcoming film Calvin Marshall was spent on filming permits for public places in Ashland, Oregon? (self-nom) —97198 talk 06:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Wouldn't be particularly noteworthy in a major film but it's a very low-budget film that the producers spent years pulling together finances for—maybe that's worth mentioning in the hook. —97198 talk 06:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the potato disease Zebra chip (example pictured) has cost the Texas economy over US$125 million in lost business and threatens the same economic impact for Arizona, California, Guatemala, and New Zealand? -- self nom by CB (ö) 06:22, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: *... that the potato disease Zebra chip (example pictured) has cost the Texas economy over US$125 million in lost business and threatens the same economic impact for New Zealand, which now suffers from import bans?

... that American Olympian John Lysak was banned from the gymnasium of the ship that took him to the 1936 Summer Olympics after destroying much of its equipment? -- new article self-nom by Cheers, CP 03:42, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest: "after" --> "for". --74.13.129.119 (talk) 03:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apt timing for this hook! Online newspaper reference verified, along with length and creation date. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 13:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that L'Année philologique (The Year in Philology) annually gathers scholarly work related to ancient Greece and Rome from approximately 2,000 sources? -- new article by Cynwolfe (talk); nom by CB (ö) 02:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that The Corporate Center in Danbury, Connecticut was built on 5,000 pillars, some up to forty feet tall, to accommodate the hilly terrain? -- new article self-nom by MBisanz ^talk 00:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that SummerSlam 1992 has the largest verified attendance of any World Wrestling Entertainment event? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

alternately, ... that, despite the company's claims, SummerSlam 1992 has the largest verified attendance of any World Wrestling Entertainment event? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Go with second hook.--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 06:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...that John Koethe was the first poet laureate for the city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 22:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 2

... that the 773rd Tank Destroyer Battalion was the first American unit to enter Czechoslovakia in 1945? (selfnom, image) Shimgray | talk | 21:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the North German baroque organ in Örgryte Nya Kyrka‎ is the largest meantone organ in the world? -- new article self-nom by Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 18:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that until 2001 five currently recognized species of lemur were considered subspecies of the Common Brown Lemur (examples pictured)? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 15:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that John Quincy Adams II, Ralph Waldo Emerson, and William Gordon Weld helped form the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals? - self nom by House of Scandal (talk) 06:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that when Lepreum was attacked during the period of the Olympic truce, the Spartan attackers were fined 200,000 drachmas at a time when the pay for a skilled worker was one drachma a day? Ironho lds 23:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest linking to a wikipage which explains what the "Olympic truce" means. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 03:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That would be nice, but I don't think we have one, except for the foreign language versions such as el:Ολυμπιακή Εκεχειρία. Olympic Games has one sentence, and Ancient Olympic Games has two sentences. Art LaPella (talk) 05:02, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I could always simply expand that section of the ancient olympic games page, then; I know quite a bit about it. To be fair the article itself does have a bit of information about what the truce was but I'll expand the section in the AOG article when I have time (read: tonight). Ironho lds 12:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Harold McCarter Taylor, a theoretical physicist and mathematician who worked with Ernest Rutherford, is best known for a three-volume work on Anglo-Saxon architecture? --Hegvald (talk) 23:04, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article could be expanded, but I did not have the energy last night to do it. It would definitely benefit from some attention by native English-speakers, especially ones with some interest in the relevant subject areas. Hegvald (talk) 10:02, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in 1938 the Raja of Aundh voluntarily handed over rule of his Indian state to the people in what was known as the Aundh Experiment? Self-nom by ~ priyanath ^talk 22:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this hook a bit too tautological? --74.13.129.119 (talk) 03:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is that better, i.e., did you mean too many 'Aundhs'? ~ priyanath ^talk 04:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that alternative rock musician Maynard James Keenan owns and operates his own winery, Caduceus Cellars, in rural Arizona? Self-nom by Skomorokh 21:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Skaga stave church (reconstruction pictured) was built in the 1130s to Christianise the area, but it was demolished in 1826 as a stronghold of remaining Norse paganism? (more than five fold expansion, self-nom)--Berig (talk) 20:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest: Commons:Image:Skaga stave church.JPG. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Fulton County Route 112, the continuation of New York State Route 309, was once the site of an old Indian trail in the Adirondacks?Mitch32^(UP) 17:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the earliest written record of Scotland during the Roman Empire is the submission of the King of Orkney to the Emperor Claudius at Colchester in 43 AD? -- new article self-nom by Ben Mac Dui 17:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need citation next to the cited fact, but otherwise, awesome article. Anyone who disagrees should be "kilt".--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 01:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was cited at the end of the following sentence but I have split the ref in two so that is now fixed. Thanks for your kind remarks. Perhaps it is time for a Pictish-Confederate alliance to drive back the dark forces of the Romano-Yankee empire? :D Ben Mac Dui 09:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome career goal; I'm in. After all, the Confederate flag was based on the Scottish flag, and Robert E. Lee thought his best soldiers were the Scots-Irish. *laughs like a mafia don* --King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 16:26, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Huis ter Nieuwburg

... that the Dutch palace Huis ter Nieuwburg (pictured) in Rijswijk, where the Treaty of Rijswijk was signed in 1697, was demolished in 1790 after years of neglect? – new article, self-nomitated by Ilse @ 15:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that for the first 25 years before The Glen Eira Town Hall (pictured) was built, the Local Council members met in a tent located in the backyard of Harold Pennington, who was paid 10 pounds a year to cover the cost of candles, fuel and the room? (Self Nom) Avi15 (talk) 12:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- 245 character hook. Bart133 ^{(t) (c)} 21:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Alternate: ... that for the first 25 years before The Glen Eira Town Hall (pictured) was built, the Local Council members met in a tent in Harold Pennington's backyard, paying Pennington 10 pounds a year? (189 characters) Bart133 ^{(t) (c)} 21:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the world's largest LNG carrier Q-Max Mozah was named by and after Mozah Nasser al-Misnad, Sheikha of Qatar? -- self nom. Beagel (talk) 11:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~ALT (moved from below) ... that Q-Flex is the type of world's largest LNG carriers currently in service? -- self nom.Beagel (talk) 09:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]

Related topic, but different articles.Beagel (talk) 17:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, you're right. I'm moving it back. Art LaPella (talk) 22:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Shmarya Rosenberg is the blogger behind the controversial website: failedmessiah.com? (Self Nom) Avi15 (talk) 13:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the italics. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 03:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... the Phylax Society, the first German Shepherd Dog club, disbanded because the members could not agree if dogs should be useful or pretty? -- new article, self-nom by ~ AmeIiorate _{U T C} @ 10:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Q-Flex is the type of world's largest LNG carriers currently in service? -- self nom.Beagel (talk) 09:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Plaza Historic District (pictured) was the historic center of Los Angeles in days of Spanish, Mexican and American rule? new article, self nom. Cbl62 (talk) 06:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that John Milton Elliott was assassinated due to his assassin avenging his dead sister losing her land to debt? (self-nom, 5x expansion)--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 06:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that John Milton Elliott's assassin was avenging his dead sister, who lost her land to pay a debt? Art LaPella (talk) 16:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in 1979, the Tobacco Institute, funded by Big Tobacco, refuted claims by the Surgeon General of the United States about the dangers of smoking? -- new article by Uncia (talk); nom by CB (ö) 05:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that magazines like the Southern Bivouac and the Southern Historical Society Papers helped to spread the belief of the Lost Cause of the Confederacy? (self-nom)--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 03:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Horand von Grafrath is the dog credited with being the first German Shepherd Dog? -- expanded from stub (and self nom) by ~ AmeIiorate _{U T C} @ 02:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Horand von Grafrath & Max von Stephanitz

Suggest: Commons:Image:Stephanitz.jpg.

ALT: *... that Horand von Grafrath (pictured with Max von Stephanitz) is the dog credited with being the first German Shepherd Dog? --74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AmeIiorate, if you don't want the image used on DYK, say so here. Admins here are usually very accommodating. But please don't remove the word "that" from the hook. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the final 20 minutes of the 1941 documentary film Kukan shows an aerial attack by Japanese bombers against Chongqing, the World War II capital of China? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 03:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that after winning a bronze medal at the 1997 World Championships in Athletics, German shot putter Stephanie Storp began playing basketball? -- self-nom by expander Punkmorten (talk) 14:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that according to his memoir, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas once had his credit card cut up by a car rental clerk? -- While the article's still in progress, I'm well over the character limit so it should be reviewable. Self nom by Vickser (talk) 03:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest: Commons:Image:Clarence Thomas official.jpg (right). --74.13.129.119 (talk) 14:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 1

... that Spednic Lake, renowned for its smallmouth bass fishing, forms part of the Canada – United States border? Self-nom. GRBerry 00:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Drake Park Neighborhood Historic District

... that residential lots in the Drake Park Neighborhood Historic District of Bend, Oregon with views of the Deschutes River and the Cascades Mountains originally sold for $100 to $250? Self-nom.--Orygun (talk) 23:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that despite never attaining tropical storm status, Tropical Depression Nine in 2002 dropped up to 6.70 in (0.170 m) of rain in Louisiana? Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 17:06, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that James Carlile's told Irish children that "the Welsh carry their knitting wherever they go", whereas the closure of Dublin's factories was due to workers refusing lower wages? self-nom... sorry a longer one but I think a good hook, but its up to you. Victuallers (talk) 15:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the album title Even Heroes Need a Parachute was chosen to emphasize "the common ground that all humans share"? New article, self-nom. Jamie^☆S93 01:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Sir John Jeremie (pictured) was given an award in 1836 for advancing "negro freedom" after accusing the judges in Mauritius of bias? self nom Victuallers (talk) 15:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest: Commons:Image:Sir John Jeremie 1795 1841.jpg (right). --74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest linking to Negro, Freedom (political) & Bias. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have put in links ... to anti-slavery and a definition for bias. Thanks for including the pic. I like it a lot Victuallers (talk) 15:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the turnout in the 2002 Algerian legislative election was Algeria's lowest yet since independence in 1962? (Expansion, self nom) Davewild (talk) 12:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Hines

... that Confederate spy Thomas Hines (pictured) escaped from the Ohio Penitentiary after being inspired by Jean Valjean's exploits in Les Misérables? (self-nom, 5x expansion) --King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 02:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let's drop the word "noted". If he's not "noted", he wouldn't have a wikibio. --74.13.130.4 (talk) 04:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So dropped.--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 04:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(alt hook) ... that Confederate spy Thomas Hines (left pictured) had to escape Detroit by ferryboat due to being confused with assassin John Wilkes Booth(right pictured) ?--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 22:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the French ambassador Pompone de Bellièvre (pictured) was given by Mazarin the hopeless task of making peace between King Charles I and his Long Parliament? - self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 01:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Alt... that Robert Nanteuil's engraving of Pompone de Bellièvre (pictured) has been called "the most beautiful engraved portrait that exists"? Alternative hook by Xn4 (talk) 01:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that even though it is a small rural community Guerneville, California is a center for gay, lesbian, and bisexual culture and is a "gay village"; and that it is also very flood prone? -- recently improved by yours truly.^MY♥_INchile 00:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Double hooks" (it is "A" and its is also "B") should be avoided BUT the following might be intriguing: "... that Guerneville, California is a flood-prone gay village?" That hook is one part "DYK" and two parts "WTF?" (c : - House of Scandal (talk) 01:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

flood prone gay village, i like that a lot, even though i wanted to make a point of it being rural and gay friendly, your idea is a lot better and makes the place sound a lot more interesting, lets go with that!^MY♥_INchile 01:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I keep pressing the point that less is usually more when it comes to hooks. Hooks that tease us with a single fact, or that are quizzical, or make us wonder how the story ends, are more effective than hooks that are mini-summaries because they make people want to click the link. - House of Scandal (talk) 07:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, however I'm a little uncomfortable with this particular hook characterizing as it does a location as " very flood prone" and a "gay village". I would prefer to see a hook a little more neutral. Gatoclass (talk) 08:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry gatoclass but your comment makes no sense whatsoever. Making it more neutral in your preceding statement would seem to be not mentioning the gay life or the flood problems whatsoever which makes the whole hook unusable. Are you uncomfortable with gayness and floods or do you think that its not well cited enough? The Russian River area and Guerneville suffer from massssssive floods every decade or so and big ones every few years, and some flood of some kind annually, and the term gay village is the common term used on wikipedia for LGBT communities or neighborhoods. would you clarify?^MY♥_INchile 17:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although this is a gay-friendly resort area, the words "gay village" don't appear in the article. I suggest incorporating those words into the article using in-line citation if that can be done. If it can't, then let's leave the term out of the hook. Also, since the term is colloquial and subjective, and it's a label that some locals (right or wrong) might prefer the community not wear, quotation marks around it in the hook would be appropriate. If the article shows that flooding is well-documented, I don't see a problem with calling the place flood-prone. - House of Scandal (talk) 19:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To perhaps shorten this and reduce the stark contrast of one to the other, I'd suggest removing the "flood prone" or the "gay village" label. Its slightly strange to have topics so unrelative that'd it be best to simplify the thread, as I think Gatoclass was getting at above. Rud get 19:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's was Gatoclass' point whatsoever. I believe Gatoclass' concern was that this hook might be seen as oppugning the community. The weird contrast of those two facts is the best thing about this hook. - House of Scandal (talk) 21:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that jockey Ralph Neves, pronounced dead after a fall in 1936, showed up at the racetrack later the same day and demanded to ride? - new article, self nom Chick Bowen 23:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:Silver Appleyard Ducks.jpg

... that the Silver Appleyard (examples pictured) is a breed of "big, colorful duck"? - self nom House of Scandal (talk) 23:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest: Image:Silver Appleyard Ducks.jpg, but we should pick one half and crop. --74.13.130.4 (talk) 04:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for suggesting the pic as I forgot to do so. I was thinking we'd want to show the drake, the more colorful of the two, but the hen might look better at this size. Opinions? - House of Scandal (talk) 07:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Science, Evolution, and Creationism was published by the National Academy of Sciences to address the creation-evolution controversy? new article, self-nom — Scientizzle 22:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that LA's Exposition Park Rose Garden (pictured) has more than 20,000 rose bushes and 200 varieties of roses? more than 5-fold expansion by Cbl62 (talk) 22:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that after switching sides multiple times during the American Civil War, Benjamin Anderson committed suicide, saying he "would prefer being dead than disgraced"? (self-nom)--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 21:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Bob Hope Chrysler Classic golf tournament is not only the only PGA event that owns its own golf course, it doesn't use it to play the tournament? (self-nom)Etrent (talk) 19:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikified a bit. --74.13.130.4 (talk) 04:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can we assume that Bob Hope Chrysler Classic will continue to be expanded to a 5X increase in prose length? --74.13.130.4 (talk) 04:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Etrent is welcome to write 20,000+ more characters, but that would be a lot to assume. Until then, no qualifying article. Art LaPella (talk) 05:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help.. but 20K more characters? Not gonna happen. I just found the fact to be a bit quirky, and something that could be talked about. Cheers! )Etrent (talk) 13:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that William C. Grimes, who served as Acting Governor of Oklahoma Territory for ten days, helped to establish Kingfisher College? (self-nom) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 19:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Long-legged Bunting, an extinct species of Bunting, is one of the few flightless species in the Passerines order? new article self-nom by Shrewpelt (talk) 19:30, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Shiseibyō Confucian temple in Naha, Okinawa contains the first educational institution in Okinawa, which later became the first public school in the prefecture? (self-nom) LordAmeth (talk) 18:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that during the Civil War, Pittsburgh made the world's first 21" heavy artillery gun? (created by User:8th Ohio Volunteers, nominated by --Bedford ^Pray 16:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could be other possible hooks as well.--Bedford ^Pray 16:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 79th Street Boat Basin, featured in the 1998 film You've Got Mail, is the only marina that allows year-round residency by Manhattan boat owners? -- new article self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 14:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, and references verified. Λua∫Wise ^{(Operibus anteire)} 09:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that anaerobic digestion is a series of biological processes in which microorganisms break down biodegradable material to form biogas that can be used as a source of renewable energy? --Alex Marshall (talk) 14:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No qualifying article. Art LaPella (talk) 05:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the manga series Foxy Lady, in which the main character is a fox-girl, is an example of manga in the kemonomimi genre? Self-nom by ISD (talk) 08:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Robert Byington Mitchell, who was Brigadier General in the Union Army during the American Civil War, served as Governor of New Mexico Territory from 1866 to 1869? (self-nom) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook verified. Great job! Best, RyRy (talk) 09:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Hilonim make up more than 50% of Israel's population? --Avi15 (talk) 12:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, and references verified. Λua∫Wise ^{(Operibus anteire)} 13:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the pored mushroom Gyrodon lividus (pictured) has been found associated with alder trees in such diverse places as California, Latvia, and Japan? ...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, and references verified. Added "(pictured)" to the hook. Λua∫Wise ^{(Operibus anteire)} 08:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the town of Kent, New York, dealt with an excess Canada goose population around Lake Carmel (pictured) by rounding them up while they were molting and distributing the meat to the poor? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 31

... that the video game Heiankyo Alien was originally developed as a personal computer game, but was later released as an arcade game? Article created by Noveltyghost, nominated by -- クラウド６６８ 18:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- (alt.hook) ... that the arcade game Heiankyo Alien was originally designed as a personal computer game by the University of Tokyo's Theoretical Science Group? Noveltyghost (talk) 04:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Majdi Halabi, an Israeli Druze soldier from the village of Daliyat el-Karmel, disappeared on duty near Haifa and was formally declared to be missing in action in June 2005? (self-nom; 178 characters) –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 00:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- (alt.hook)... that Israel Defence Forces soldier Majdi Halabi disappeared on duty near Haifa and was formally declared to be missing in action in June 2005? (self-nom; 143 characters) –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 00:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Bronze Star recipient William Chaffey was also a member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly for 33 years, including three as the New South Wales Minister of Agriculture? -- new article self-nom by Bart133 ^{(t) (c)} 16:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that on 22 October 1946, both the destroyer HMS Saumarez and her rescue ship HMS Volage struck mines during the Corfu Channel Incident? (created article and self nom) Dr.K. (talk) 14:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate 1:... that the Corfu Channel Incident is considered one of the early episodes of the Cold War? Dr.K. (talk) 14:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate 2:... that the Corfu Channel Incident occured after Great Britain decided to test Albanian reaction to its right of innocent passage? Dr.K. (talk) 14:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Plan Dog memo, one of the best known documents of World War II, laid the basis for America's Europe First policy? Raul654 (talk) 09:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Go go offline references which use a book I have. Length, date, reference and picture are all good for the front page. Vickser (talk) 13:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably should mention Harold Rainsford Stark in this hook if we are using his picture. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 04:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the panemone is the most commonly reinvented (and patented) wind turbine concept despite it being the first and least efficient design? (self nom) Λua∫Wi se ^{(Operibus anteire)} 08:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Article needs at least 1,500 characters of readable prose; this one has only ~1000.~~ CB (ö) 08:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded article. Please re-review. Λua∫Wi se ^{(Operibus anteire)} 09:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Much better (~2,000 characters now); however, this statement is a copyvio - could you reword it? CB (ö) 19:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reworded...Thanks mate. Λua∫Wise ^{(Operibus anteire)} 20:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Cinimod Studio in London, United Kingdom, designed a virtual sky ceiling for Snog Pure Frozen Yogurt with clouds whose speeds and colors depend upon the time of day? -- new article by Dommeruk (talk); nom by CB (ö) 07:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the neighborhood of Elm Park in Winnipeg, Canada, was originally a park created by the Winnipeg Street Railway Company to increase trolly use? -- new article by NellieBly (Talk); nom by CB (ö) 07:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 2006 championship of the University of Santo Tomas was their first men's basketball championship since their four consecutive titles from 1993 to 1996? self nom by --Howard the Duck 06:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that customization of video game vehicles was an aspect first introduced by the Need for Speed series after the release of the film, The Fast and The Furious; a feature included in every Need for Speed title from the release of Need for Speed: Underground?--S_RX 02:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC) (co nom with User:ThinkBlue)[reply]

256 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 05:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, how about this one, this is a shorter hook I think less than 200 characters, and states the same thing. **ALT:... that customization of video game vehicles was an aspect first introduced by the Need for Speed titles after the release of the 2001 film, The Fast and The Furious?--S_RX 11:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC) (co-nom with User:ThinkBlue)[reply]

Under 200 characters. Art LaPella (talk) 05:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- So it's good no?--S_RX 03:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, the hook is short enough. Others will soon review citations and such. Art LaPella (talk) 03:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 12th largest newspaper by circulation is the Bay Area's San Francisco Chronicle? modified and touched up july 31 by me.^MY♥_INchile 05:54, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is the Hindu Times on that (American?) list?--Wetman (talk) 01:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- no sizeable extension over even the last 2 monts. Circeus (talk) 03:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Washington Block was one of the first buildings to use the isolated pier foundation technique whereby load-bearing points have separate foundations?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... the pranksters behind the Martian Monkey hoax were fined US$40? -- self nom by ~ AmeIiorate _{U T C} @ 23:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The main page has a general audience. A little more context is recommended. Please put in when and where and specify the currency in the hook. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have added currency but I feel that keeping the hook ambiguous will encourage people to click on it. ~ AmeIiorate _{U T C} @ 06:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless I will add this ALT ... the pranksters behind the 1953 Martian Monkey hoax, in Atlanta, were fined US$40? ~ AmeIiorate _{U T C} @ 06:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The original hook is much better. - House of Scandal (talk) 00:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that skyscraper architect Ely Jacques Kahn was the first architect to publicly plan, although not to complete, a Holocaust memorial in the United States? Expanded 5x, self nom. dvdrw 22:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in 1993 police officer Bob Geary launched a successful ballot initiative in San Francisco, California to allow him to carry a ventriloquist's dummy on patrol? -- new article, self nom. Wikidemo (talk) 22:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT: ... that San Franciscans voted to allow police officer Bob Geary to carry a ventriloquist's dummy on foot patrol? Wikidemo (talk) 17:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the episode of 30 Rock entitled "Sandwich Day" was actress Johnnie May's second appearance in the series, after playing a blood donations nurse in the episode "Tracy Does Conan"? -- Jɑɱǐε Jcɑ 21:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT: ... that Jason Sudeikis, who guest starred as Floyd in the 30 Rock episode "Sandwich Day", appeared in the cast of Saturday Night Live with the creator, star and executive producer of 30 Rock, Tina Fey? -- Jɑɱǐε Jcɑ 21:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Ralphs Grocery Store (pictured), one of the original buildings in Westwood Village, was featured in photographs taken by Ansel Adams in 1940? new artical, self nom. Cbl62 (talk) 19:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that at the Convention of 1836, Texas delegates officially declared independence from Mexico? - self-nom, expanded 5x. Karanacs (talk) 19:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

or "... that at the Convention of 1836, delegates approved the Texas Declaration of Independence with no debate? Karanacs (talk) 19:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, I think the second hook is more interesting than the first. Length, date and hook verified. Good job! -- RyRy (talk) 07:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that this year's 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing will host 205 nations, and be first time participated by Tuvalu and Marshall Islands athletes? Znamkar (talk) 18:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No new article there. Circeus (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - I thought this was an interesting hook, so I started to expand Tuvalu at the 2008 Summer Olympics ~~(which I have piped & bolded above)~~. Can anyone guide on how much expansion is required for 5x? Thanks, Mitico (talk) 20:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you're already there for Tuvalu. Before your expansion started today, readable prose was 256 bytes; we're currently at 1,469 bytes. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...(alt hook)that this year's 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing will host 205 nations, with three countries making their first appearance: Marshall Islands, Montenegro, and Tuvalu?
~~...(alt hook)that the Polynesian island nation of Tuvalu will be appearing in its first Olympic games at this year's 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing?~~

The original hook appears to be incorrect, or at least misleading since there are really 3 first-timers. ~~I think all three should be included, but reaching the 1,500 readable prose characters (which I think is met for Tuvalu) is going to be difficult for all three. So maybe the second alt is better?~~ Mitico (talk) 22:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC) I have expanded all three articles to acceptable amount of prose, so the above alt hook should work (I think ). -Mitico (talk) 17:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in Australia many unions and employers are working around the WorkChoices law by using side letters to reach agreement on non-workplace-related matters? - new article (selfnom) Tim1965 (talk) 17:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that La Palma, Chalatenango in El Salvador played an important role in negotiations between FMLN guerillas and the government during the Civil War (1980–1992)? (expanded self-nom) ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An important role? Can you be any more specific? The article's also vague on exactly what its role was - did the negotiations take place there, was a particular bone of contention, or was it something else? Iain99^{Balderdash and piffle} 18:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Joe Allison was an American football placekicker who won the inaugural Lou Groza Award, presented to the nation's top kicker? - new article by Mastrchf (^t/_c) 16:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[Alternate 1] ... that Joe Allison was honored as college football's top placekicker in 1992 with the inaugural Lou Groza Award? - Mastrchf (^t/_c) 14:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Lucy Jane Bledsoe is an American novelist who writes primarily LGBT literature and who has won various awards for her work? - new article by User:PeaceNT; nomination by It Is Me Here (talk) 15:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. :) I'm thinking of something a bit more specific. (alt hook) ... that novelist Lucy Jane Bledsoe, who writes primarily LGBT literature, is a Stonewall Book Award winner and four-time Lambda Literary Award finalist? --PeaceNT (talk) 12:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - That looks good to me :) It Is Me Here (talk) 12:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the tugboat Tuff-E-Nuff, built in 1895 by Neafie & Levy, was still working commercially in 2007 after 112 years of service? Tuff-E-Nuff (tugboat) - new article by User:Gatoclass with assistance from User:Bellhalla. Gatoclass (talk) 15:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that after a collision with the Scottish clipper Loch Earn, the French steamship Ville du Havre sank in only 12 minutes, with the loss of 226 lives? (new article & self nom) Spy007au (talk) 11:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference confirmed. Iain99^{Balderdash and piffle} 17:16, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that although master contracts are found in industries as diverse as tire manufacturing, public education, and baking, some unions criticize them as nothing more than company unionism? - new article and selfnom Tim1965 (talk) 04:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... a German Shepherd named Rajah was the first police dog in New Zealand? -- self-nom by ~ AmeIiorate _{U T C} @ 03:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- not yet 1500 main article characters; otherwise ref checks out. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 03:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded it and clarified some areas. ~ AmeIiorate _{U T C} @ 04:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- confirmed. Good to go. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 07:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that as of May 2008, the International Harvester strike of 1979-1980 is the fourth-longest strike of national importance in the history of the UAW and the longest in the history of International Harvester?preceding unsigned new article self-nomination by Tim1965 (talk) (unsigned comment signed by CB (ö) 02:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Hook is currently 205 characters. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 04:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that as of May 2008, the International Harvester strike of 1979-1980 is the fourth-longest national strike in the history of the UAW and the longest in the history of International Harvester? - hook is now 191 characters (including spaces) Tim1965 (talk) 14:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Princes Pier (pictured) in Port Melbourne, Australia, suffered fourteen fires from 2001 to 2004? -- new article by Wongm (talk); Nom by CB (ö) 01:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC) (I can crop the photo if need be)[reply]

- length checks out; ref good. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 03:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a subspecies of Black Lemur is the only primate other than humans to have blue eyes? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 02:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Offline source good-faithed; five fold confirmed. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 03:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~[[Image:Lemur11 edit.JPG|100x100px|right|a female Black Lemur]]~~

~~Suggest the use of Image:Lemur11 edit.JPG (right).~~ --74.13.127.194 (talk) 04:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd recommend staying with the original image "Image:Eulemur macao flavifrons.jpg" in this case. "Image:Lemur11 edit.JPG" is probably a nicer general black lemur picture, but it is of the brown eyed subspecies, while the factoid specifically references the blue-eyed subspecies shown in "Image:Eulemur macao flavifrons.jpg". Rlendog (talk) 16:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we should use the blue eyed lemur picture. I do think it needs to be cropped for the front page, though. As is there's too high a tree to lemur ratio. Vickser (talk) 12:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very good point. --74.13.130.4 (talk) 04:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A nice tight crop around just the lemur would look great as a thumbnail on the front page next to this hook. --Blechnic (talk) 17:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How does one go about cropping images from Commons? Are there instructions anywhere? Rlendog (talk) 01:22, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Category:Protected main page images#Instructions for administrators. {{M-cropped}} may be useful. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 01:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. So this is something the admin has to do? I thought I needed to do it. Rlendog (talk) 02:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Lactarius pyrogalus received its English name, fire-milk Lactarius, because of its acrid taste? - self nom. J Milburn (talk) 15:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and ref confirmed Iain99^{Balderdash and piffle} 17:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT:... that the fire-milk lactarius is so named because of its acrid taste? --74.13.129.119 (talk) 02:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the people involved in the 2008 Poole Harbour bus accident were on a sight-seeing tour of Poole on an open-top bus? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.147.101 (talk) 19:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is currently nominated for deletion, and thus ineligible. If it closes with a keep early enough it could still be featured, but my guess is that's unlikely. A car accident with no fatalities and nothing particularly special is unlikely to be notable. Vickser (talk) 13:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In case anyone wants to quickly go comment or vote: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Poole Harbour bus accident. --74.13.130.4 (talk) 04:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that one Prior of Ecclesfield (priory pictured), near Sheffield in England, was accused by Benedictine authorities of "embezzlement of the priory's goods" and of living an "evil life"? Warofdreams talk 20:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that baseball pitcher Marc Wilkins balked on Rob Ryan's first at-bat, on the day of Ryan's major league debut, making the Arizona Diamondbacks score one run? Self-nom. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 06:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Length, hook verified. Good to go. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 06:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, I put that nomination in and it's approved 12 minutes later. :P Thanks, RyRy (talk) 07:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I like baseball, your hook caught my eye ;) --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 07:07, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Basically the old thing I write is baseball. :P Look at this. Feel free to join WP:SOX. ;) Heh, heh. -- RyRy (talk) 07:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest "Ryan's" instead of "his". Otherwise, it could be Wilkins' debut instead of Ryan's. Art LaPella (talk) 05:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, Art LaPella, when you gave me that message, I thought it was something really bad about the article. :P Yes, at first I thought I should have used "his" instead of "Ryan's", but I see the problem. I have changed it. Thanks for the note, RyRy (talk) 06:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mutinus caninus

... that 'eggs' of the foul-smelling and insect attracting dog stinkhorn (Mutinus caninus) (pictured) have been eaten with relish in West Virginia? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC) + Luridiformis[reply]

... that in Norse mythology, the goddess Sigyn is the wife of the jötunn Loki? :bloodofox: (talk) 18:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 30

... that one of award-winning playwright Ronald Ribman's first plays, The Journey of the Fifth Horse, based on Ivan Turgenev's short story "The Diary of a Superfluous Man," won an Obie Award and starred a young Dustin Hoffman? New article created by User:Avraham. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 17:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that before earning a B.A. at New School for Social Research, science writer Mary Batten worked as a library clerk at the New York Public Library? --PeaceNT (talk) 12:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Well No. 4 in the Pico Canyon Oilfield (pictured) was the first commercially successful oil well in the Western United States and the longest producing oil well in the world at 114 years? more than 5-fold expansion, jointly created by Cbl62, Doncram and Kurowoof Cbl62 (talk) 07:02, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that New York abstract painter Dennis Ashbaugh is one of the first artists to employ DNA marking patterns in paintings? Self-nom by Skomorokh 00:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date verified. Hook's reference is a book with isbn, unavailable online, accepted per WP:AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that according to Franz Oppenheimer's book The State, the purpose of the political state is to establish and enforce class divisions between conquerors and the dominated? Self-nom bySkomorokh 19:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date verified. Hook's reference is a book with isbn, unavailable online, accepted per WP:AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Muhammad (pictured preaching), the claimed Last Prophet of the religion of Islam, owned at least 33 male and some 15 female slaves – including concubines – over the period of his life from approximately 570 to 632? 79.130.162.229 (talk) 06:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Potentially contentious subject matter which has already raised objections on the article's talk page. I have notified Wikiproject Islam to take a look at this article so that its status can be properly determined before it is promoted. Gatoclass (talk) 05:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~257 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 05:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)~~ Now 219 characters. Art LaPella (talk) 16:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The objection on the talk page, which I'll shortly respond to there, is about the image - which is best available image depicting the person who is most relevant to the entire context of the article. Fine be a critic, but find us a better one. Go on. The hook is not unsourced. Count the number of male and female slaves for which each entry is carefully sourced. I find at least 33 males and exactly 15 females. The only thing that makes "contentious(ness)" relevant, is if the sourcing or definitions are unacceptable to any degree. Well, let's hear it then?? Put up, now.87.203.51.18 (talk) 15:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is more than one objection on the talk page already. I myself have a number of concerns about this article, which is why I notified Wikiproject Islam. But I'm prepared to wait to see what they have to say. Gatoclass (talk) 17:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On closer inspection, the article does not qualify in any case. Only about a x2 expansion of main body text. Gatoclass (talk) 05:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you could be referring to there. I see the size was 4,857 bytes at 21:57 on

29 July 2008 thanks to attempted suppressions by User:Itaqallah. It reached 5 times that size definitely within 5 fulls days of that and now is 29,345 bytes and still going to be grown I assure you.87.203.51.18 (talk) 18:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, we only count the prose portion as described at #Instructions. Therefore the long lists of slaves and references don't count towards the total (neither the before total nor the after total). So Gatoclass was correct; the expansion was about x2 when he commented. A few minutes ago it was expanded up to x4. Art LaPella (talk) 22:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that scuba divers concerned about the deterioration of the Samuel P. Ely shipwreck worked underwater to install reinforcing tie rods that would hold the hull together? Self-nom by Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 03:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date verified. The hook's source, a book with an isbn, is unavailable online but accepted per WP:AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Polish writer Adam Wawrosz fought in the Polish Army in the Battle of Kock of World War II? self-nom by Darwinek (talk) 16:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date verified. The hook's source, a book with an isbn, is unavailable online but accepted per WP:AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that many slogans and several mottoes currently used in heraldry originated as war cries or battle cries? -- new article self-nom by Celtus (talk) 09:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please note that the references that cover this hook are nos. 1 & 3 in the article.--Celtus (talk) 09:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the African Agricultural Union, led by Félix Houphouët-Boigny (pictured), received the support of nearly 20,000 plantation workers shortly after it was established? New article by --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 00:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that John Harfield Tredgold who helped slaves in the Cape Colony in the 19th century also sold drugs? self-nom Victuallers (talk) 22:31, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Did you mean legal drugs, or is that your trick to get people to click? Art LaPella (talk) 23:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]

yes I did mean legal drugs ... I'm relying on the fact that others might assume he was a "drug dealer" rather than a pharmacist. OK? Victuallers (talk) 21:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK with me. Just making sure it wasn't an oversight. Art LaPella (talk) 22:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Dürer's Apocalypse heralded the end time expectations at 1500? self-nom, --Brand спойт 21:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT:... that the woodcut Apocalypse by Albrecht Dürer (pictured) heralded the end time expectations at 1500? --74.13.129.119 (talk) 01:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Had to remove some copyvio text here - see British Museum note. Johnbod (talk) 02:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article relatively new, length ok. But you have to point out where your hook fact corresponds with the sources. Lampman (talk) 03:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the only trio of brothers to appear in a Major League Lacrosse game as members of the same team are Michael, Gregory, and Stephen Peyser of the New Jersey Pride? -- new articles; triple self-nom by Mitico (talk) 21:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC) (alt's welcome)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that although the longfin trevally (Carangoides armatus) is a prized table fish in Thailand and Cambodia, it is overall too rare to sustain commercial fisheries? Another great article by Kare Kare (talk · contribs), nom by Circeus (talk) 21:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length verified; offline ref taken in good faith. Daniel Case (talk) 03:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Richard Tapper Cadbury helped his son John to start a tea and coffee business that would become Cadbury plc? self nom Victuallers (talk) 20:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could the link at least try to point to the page in the book instead of the general page of info about the book? Daniel Case (talk) 03:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ref says page 53 and now points here - Victuallers (talk) 22:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Norwegian National Rail Administration owns all 4,114 km (2,556 mi) of railways in Norway, but does not operate any trains? —self-nom fivefold expansion Arsenikk ^(talk) 19:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Essentially, this is fine: length has been expanded x5.6 today, and the 4,114 km fact is verified. However, this document, used for refs 3, 4 and 11–14, is currently a dead link for me. Also, I favour rewording to "does not operate any passenger trains", because it has a small fleet of shunters, maintenance trains etc. as per section 2.4. Once the pdf comes back up, I'll take a quick look and change to a green tick. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:55, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I found the pdf; the link was slightly wrong. This hook is ready, with the clarification mentioned above. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the dead link—I had the file downloaded onto my computer. If people prefer, the term revenue train could be used, but I felt it is a bit too specialized terminology to go on the main page. Arsenikk ^(talk) 22:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

.(alt).. that the Norwegian National Rail Administration owns over four megametres of railway track, but does not operate any passenger trains? alt Victuallers (talk) 22:31, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that liver biopsy (obtaining a tissue sample from the liver) is sometimes needed in unexplained forms of hepatitis? Self-nom, new article from redirect. JFW | T@lk 15:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Tower Hill Water Tower in Ormskirk, Lancashire, is reputed to be the oldest remaining water tower in England? Small-town hero (talk) 13:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~This isn't mentioned in the article. Daniel Case (talk) 14:45, 2 August 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]

Erm, it's in the lead. And referenced. Small-town hero (talk) 16:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, missed it; often these things are restated elsewhere in the article. Daniel Case (talk) 19:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest: Commons:Image:Tower Hill Water Tower, Ormskirk.JPG (right). --74.13.129.119 (talk) 01:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 1978 video game Casino offered three different card games? --harej 10:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

length OK; hook cited. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 22:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the air speed of an unladen European swallow is estimated to be roughly 24 miles per hour (39 km/h)? - nominated by Daughter of Mímir (talk) 10:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anybody who has seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail will find it very interesting. Daughter of Mímir (talk) 10:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While that would make an excellent hook, DYK is only for articles that are new or have been expanded fivefold in the past 5 days. The article on swallows has had neither, and is thus not eligible for DYK. Vickser (talk) 10:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Swazi police told Gabriel Mkhumane′s mother that he would come home "wrapped in a black bag" hours before his death was reported? New article by --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 02:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is only 1441 characters, excluding references. Please expand it to at least 1500 characters. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 07:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded it some. --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 11:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length confirmed. Ready to rumble. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that 52 ships of the German High Seas Fleet were successfully scuttled in Scapa Flow (example pictured) in 1919, but many were later salvaged? - self nom, new article, Benea (talk) 01:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While the 51 52 fact is supported with an inline citation, there's no citation on the claim that the ships were later salvaged. Length and date do check out, though, and the picture is also free use and okay for the front page. While I'm commenting, great job on the article! It's thorough, well illustrated, and absolutely beautiful. Vickser (talk) 09:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arrrgh, you are of course right! I've greatly expanded the salvage section, with supporting refs and cites. There's some pretty impressive stuff about Ernest Cox, 'the man who bought a navy', used coal from the sunken ships to fuel his salvage engines, ordered one salvaged ship to be sunk again because he wasn't there to see it raised, etc. Also that the steel from the ships is still used to manufacture instruments like Geiger counters. If anyone wants to come up with a different hook, feel free! Thanks very much by the way, it turned into a bit of a labour of love. Benea (talk) 10:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should be all set now. I have to grey check since they're offline reference, but this should be good for the front page. Vickser (talk) 11:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, I've changed the number to 52 actually, as Massie has again blundered, and seems to think the SMS Bremse was beached not scuttled. The list of sources that contradict him is long and frankly embarrassing, but mea culpa for relying on him, and this can join the list of his many small errors. The other cited source, Dan van der Vat explicitly states 52 ships sank. Benea (talk) 11:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The books are offline and I'm not feeling up to a library trip, but I don't see any reason not to trust your judgement on this. My check stands. Vickser (talk) 11:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in the Battle of Píleo in 1819, the city of Los Angeles was burned to the ground? (created by user:Melromero, nominated by DS (talk) 02:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

While length and date check out, the article needs inline citations to be eligible for DYK. Here's to hoping this can get fixed up, as it looks like a pretty great article. Vickser (talk) 08:55, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the piping in [[Los Angeles, Chile|Los Angeles]] is somewhat misleading. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 01:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Haruji Matsue was the first person to manufacture the sugar cube in Japan? -- new article self-nom by Brian Adler (talk) 07:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and inline citation are all there. Offline source accepted on good faith. Vickser (talk) 08:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that U.S. diplomat Pamela E. Bridgewater (pictured) was the first African-American woman appointed Consul General in Durban, South Africa? - self-nom, new article, XLerate (talk) 07:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date check out, and the picture's freely licensed, but you need an inline citation for the hook immediately following the sentence, not just at the end of the paragraph. Fix that and you should be good to go. Vickser (talk) 08:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done with small correction - 3 sources. XLerate (talk) 10:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks perfect now. Vickser (talk) 10:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the upright bugle, Ajuga genevensis, (pictured) often interbreeds with its more widespread cousin, the common bugle, Ajuga reptans, producing hybrid offspring? - Self nom, maybe the wording could do with some reordering. J Milburn (talk) 14:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I recommend ... that the upright bugle (Ajuga genevensis, pictured) often interbreeds with its more widespread cousin, the common bugle (A. reptans), producing hybrid offspring? Also, Ajuga must be capitalized whatever wording it ends up being. Circeus (talk) 20:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's much better, thanks, and thanks for fixing the capitalisation; I wasn't sure if it needed it. J Milburn (talk) 22:09, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I removed the spare italics that were in your suggestion- there's no need to italicise the common name. J Milburn (talk) 22:14, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Yeah, my bad. Circeus (talk) 22:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, sources, date and second hook okay. The online sources are okay so I assumed good faith on the hook's source as it is unavailable online.--Lenticel ^(talk) 00:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that sociology of film looks at six main genres of the cinema? -- article by User:Jch37, nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date of creation verified; offline ref accepted on good faith. Daniel Case (talk) 14:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Henry Fairfield Osborn had to double the size of Castle Rock (pictured), his father's Garrison, New York, mansion, to accommodate his own family? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 22:09, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on July 29

... that former Virginia Tech running back Lee Suggs set the NCAA Division I-A record for consecutive American college football games with a rushing touchdown (27) in the 2002 San Francisco Bowl? Expanded and nom by JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Japanese visual novel Eternal Fantasy consists of an overworld map and a combat system, typical of console role-playing games, other than its traditional visual novel gameplay? Expanded and nom by -- クラウド６６８ 17:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Fred Hardy theorized that the erotic sculptures on the outer walls of Hindu temples are intended to keep away demons from pure sanctuary? New article. Self nom. Wikidās ॐ 13:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- how about: ... that Fred Hardy theorized that the erotic sculptures on the outer walls of Hindu temples are intended to keep away demons? Karanacs (talk) 19:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

xFred Hardy is also listed at #Articles created/expanded on July 29, which is the date it was created. Art LaPella (talk) 22:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was created on ~~30th (by mistake I had added it to~~ 29th ~~and will remove it~~).

I struck out my X because Fred Hardy was removed from the 29th, so now the solution is to move it to the 29th, not to delete this version. And I'm not sure it even matters much any more, as long as we don't have a duplicate submission. However, the article was created at 21:37 July 29 UTC. I don't have much experience with this rule, but as far as I know, July 30 means July 30 UTC when no time zone is specified. By the way, I didn't suggest a version of the hook; my only objection is about the date. Art LaPella (talk) 23:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Objection with the date

Resolved

. Wikidās ॐ 04:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 2008 Chino Hills Earthquake shook all of Southern California with a magnitude of 5.4, and was felt as far away from Las Vegas, Nevada? Self-nom by Must eat worms (talk) 23:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~But the sources (#5 & #8) state that the quake in the desert in 1999 was a stronger quake than the 1994 Northridge quake. Hook needs refinement. Mitico (talk) 21:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)~~ Refined. Must eat worms (talk) 00:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Payne-Desha House in Georgetown, Kentucky was built by a war hero from the Battle of the Thames and also was the last residence of the ninth governor of Kentucky? new article, self nom. FloNight ♥♥♥ 11:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 17:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that one of the libertarian objections to intellectual property is that restricting the copying and redistribution of information violates freedom of speech and freedom of the press? new article, self-nom Aldrich Hanssen (talk) 11:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article is currently tagged as a possible merge, and I added {{sections}}. Daniel Case (talk) 16:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:Symbionese Liberation Army Naga Symbol.jpg

... that the Highland Park Police Station in Los Angeles was spared when a bomb planted in 1973 by the radical Symbionese Liberation Army (emblem pictured) proved to be a dud? new article, self nom. Cbl62 (talk) 03:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As the bomb was a dud, the police station could not have been "saved" -- it was never in danger. --74.13.127.194 (talk) 04:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps some context on exactly where the station is would be in order. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a substitute hook: ... that the Highland Park Police Station, where the radical Symbionese Liberation Army (emblem pictured) once planted a bomb that proved to be a dud, is now the Los Angeles Police Museum? Cbl62 (talk) 16:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 17:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if the SLA logo is free for us on the main page. I'd assume the SLA would somehow hold the copyright. Do terrorists forfeit copyrights when they become outlaws? --74.13.130.4 (talk) 04:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image history indicates this has been released into the public domain, and I really don't think a terrorist organization has a protected interest in a multi-headed cobra. I don't think this is a real world concern, and I think it's an eye-catching image that helps the hook, but if others see it as an issue, just use without the image. Cbl62 (talk) 18:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Battle of Annaberg in 1921 was the first German victory since November 1918? -- nom by Matthead as alternative to the controversial hook right below. Annaberg is the proper name of the battle, and the statement is sourced [1], too. -- Matthead Discuß 12:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute solved now. -- Matthead Discuß 21:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the ~~Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain~~Battle of Annaberg was the biggest battle of the Silesian Uprisings? self-nom by Tymek (talk) 20:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hook needs an inline citation. Length and date are good to go, though. Vickser (talk) 09:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a source, hope it is good now. Tymek (talk) 18:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Polish POV once again, like the related Wawelberg Group article and DYK two months ago. The title was OR, as "Saint Anne's Mountain" is an invented name, as the de:St. Annaberg was in Weimar Germany. Polish terrorists attacked it, German forces liberated it again in the Battle of Annaberg, as it is known to English Scholars. -- Matthead Discuß 22:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Matthead, please keep your personal opinions to yourself. And please stick to English names here. Thank you. BTW Saint Anne's Mountain has not been invented by me ([2]). Tymek (talk) 00:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain" was introduced to Google by this very en-WP article of yours, Tymek. It violates WP:NOR. -- Matthead Discuß 10:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I second Tymek.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Piotrus, you once again did your usual moving, salting & taunting maneuver to prevent a move back, even though you've been warned several times not to do this.-- Matthead Discuß 10:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also question the current title, "Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain". Olessi (talk) 03:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So should we use Polish or German? This is pointless; English is a good compromise.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, we do not compromise the well-sourced name Battle of Annaberg just to accommodate fringe views. Polish is no option anyway - why do you not mention Bavarian language, as also Bavarians took part in helping to defend Germany against Polish aggression? -- Matthead Discuß 21:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute solved now, article moved. -- Matthead Discuß 21:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that James Ludington (pictured) never lived in Ludington, Michigan – the town that bears his name? new article, self nom by --Doug ^talk 19:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length is fine and the hook is referenced. Seraphim♥Whipp 12:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a group of Irish publishers tried to print pirated copies of Samuel Richardson′s final novel, The History of Sir Charles Grandison, before the actual first edition was released? self-nom (with User:Stratford490), 5x expansion for both noms. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I expanded "Samuel Richardson" five times after removing redundancies, things that didn't belong in the page, etc. as per <script type="text/javascript" src="http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Omegatron/monobook.js/addlink.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>&diff=228705849&oldid=228653406 here. Please credit User:Stratford490 for his help on both pages. Also, if it is not expanded far enough, I can update even more. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While Samuel Richardson is a little iffy, I think the amount of new content meets 5x expansion and the The History of Sir Charles Grandison clearly qualifies. Offline ref accepted in good faith. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 04:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Confederate Monument in Perryville was built by the government of Kentucky to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Battle of Perryville, and 5,000–10,000 people attended its dedication?(self-nom)--Bedford ^Pray 17:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that although on private property, the Unknown Confederate Dead Monument (pictured) outside Perryville, Kentucky was built by the federal government sixty-six years after the battle? (self-nom)--Bedford ^Pray 15:32, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Goldthwaite, a small city in the Texas Hill Country, is known for the production of mohair-producing goats in the area?--self-nom, Revised and expanded with photo gallery Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OR:

... that Goldthwaite, a small city in the Texas Hill Country, is one of numerous communities in Texas named for railroad men instrumental in founding?Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to several bare urls (see WT:DYK) article is not a 5x fold expansion being around 1969 bytes on June 4th and around 8345 bytes today. It would need to get closer 9845 bytes of pure article text to qualify. Billy, as a DYK regular, I would like to kindly ask you to be more diligent in verifying that your articles qualify before submitting them. This is your second nomination in a week (prev. Hico, Texas) that you've nominated that was ineligible. Please be more careful. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 04:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with removing the word "their" from before "founding". It leaves the question, founding what? Communities? Railroads? Texas? Art LaPella (talk) 04:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Wilfrid Noyce forced a route up to the South Col on the first ascent of Mount Everest (pictured) by the 1953 British Expedition? New article, self-nom. Ericoides (talk) 08:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length verified. I don't have the book which is used to reference the hook, but the fact is confirmed by ODNB anyway. Iain99^{Balderdash and piffle} 14:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 1946 Mexican film Boom in the Moon starring Buster Keaton was not commercially released in the United States until 1983? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 02:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reference verified. Length is just a smidge short of 5x expansion being around 735 bytes in Aug, 2007 and around 3430 bytes today. A 5x expansion would be closer to 3675 bytes. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 12:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updated, as per request Please re-review. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 14:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prose section has now been expanded 5x Iain99^{Balderdash and piffle} 19:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that what is now the southwestern United States was at one time connected to East Antarctica according to the SWEAT model? (self-nom) Λua∫Wi se ^{(Operibus anteire)} 11:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Changed wording ... the United States did not exist when Gondwana did. Daniel Case (talk) 20:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:Muleshoe shoe IMG 0395.JPG

A 22-foot muleshoe greets visitors to Muleshoe Heritage Center

... that the Muleshoe Heritage Center in Muleshoe, Texas, greets visitors with a 22-foot high muleshoe (pictured) which weighs some 15,000 pounds and was originally an Eagle Scout project?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that The Infected is one of the longest standing punk bands from Lexington, Kentucky? - new article by User:Team4Technologies (talk | contribs); Nom by It Is Me Here (talk) 11:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date are fine, but the citation is only to a producer's MySpace page. Another source should be used. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 14:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm ... the article seems to use other sources, too, so I'm not entirely sure what changes you want made to it? It Is Me Here (talk) 15:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a reliable source which can verify the statement of the DYK, something that's required for its acceptance. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 04:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What if I changed the caption to:

* ... that The Infected is a punk band, formed in 1993, from Lexington, Kentucky? It Is Me Here (talk) 15:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That hook is dull. Daniel Case (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 28

Ananda Everingham

... that Sabaidee Luang Prabang, starring Ananda Everingham (pictured), was the first commercial film shot in Laos since it adopted communism in 1975? New article by --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 22:12, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article is a smidge short at around 1353 bytes of pure article text (excluding infobox and lists). I would also recommend adding an inline cite to the lead for the hook. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 12:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have expanded it and added the cite. --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 02:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - It still seems a bit short, but it passes all the criteria. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 00:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still 60 characters too short. Gatoclass (talk) 14:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Vietnam Veterans Memorial State Park, which opened in 1971 in Angel Fire, New Mexico, served as an inspiration for the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, completed in Washington, D.C., in 1982?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Turned photo caption into rollover text for space reasons. Daniel Case (talk) 18:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would love to use it, but the cite is to a pamphlet that is likely to be promotional. Do you have a more reliable source, or maybe a different hook?--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 21:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How about this: *... that Vietnam Veterans Memorial State Park is the first only state park dedicated solely to veterans of the Vietnam War? 71.252.253.19 (talk) 21:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was the first major memorial of any type to the war, and is the only state park that exclusively memorializes Nam. The hook gets changed to reflect that, it gets my green check.--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 21:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]