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CMA is not a predominately-gay fellowship. All of this talk about that violates the Fifth Tradition and is an outside issue. Please be mindful of singleness of purpose, which is to help everybody who wants to stop using crystal meth to do so. Bruce Garrison 21:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

The CMA website states that it is a fellowship of men and women, and to characterize it as a predominately-gay fellowship is incorrect and potentially harmful.Bruce Garrison 07:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Men and women can both be gay.
If you don't like what's on the article then you should talk to Heather Worth, Patrick Rawstorne, Steven Lee, and Frank Sanello they wrote the information that it's based on, and you should tell them to correct what they've wrote.
Alternatively, you could (as I've all ready suggested to Pete S), post something on an official CMA website clarifying this history and status of the organization. Until then, wikipedia is not the place to host information plagiarized from the CMA websites: [1] [2]. -- Scarpy (talk) 17:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page as you have it characterizes the fellowship as one that is predominately gay men, but that is not the fellowship. How can we have an entry that is based on an oblique characterization of the fellowship from a paper that really looks at the efficacy of a twelve-step program at meth addiction in a population in that study that happened to consist of gay men? The best description of what CMA is comes from CMA itself.Advocate 08:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I removed the language that was taken directly from CMA literature. As for the more substantive discussion here, simply because one study about the efficacy of CMA participation in gay men characterized the fellowship as centered around that group that article does not become authority for that descriptive, which was not the point of the article. Advocate 08:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Advocate70 (talkcontribs)

I've added links to something on the official CMA website clarifying this history and status of the organization.Advocate 09:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Advocate70 (talkcontribs)

It's not one study, three difference sources characterized it the same way. Again, if you want to get mad at somebody, get mad at them. -- Scarpy (talk) 15:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]