Talk:Intellectual disability

"Triachic Disorder"

This word does not belong in the opening statement of this article. No one in the field uses this phrase, or even knows what it is supposed to mean. Sternberg's theory is simply his own theory, it is far from mainstream and has many critics. I edited this word out, but then somehow the page became locked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.255.163.6 (talk) 15:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

"artard"

I don't think that "artard" should redirect to this article. Doing so seems to imply that the word is a legitimate synonym for "retard", bypassing the fuller explanation of the word's origins.

Urban Dictionary's definition of artard: An inncorect way to spell /r/-tard which is a reference to certain people on the 4-chan boards. Referenced in South Park and correctly spelled if you had captions on. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=artard)

"Artard" seems more appropriate to be directed to a page about 4-chan, or internet slang, or its own article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.226.172.193 (talk) 18:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

there really should be a mention of race

According to the race and intelligence article, half of African-Americans are legally retarded. When you meet a black person, there's a 50/50 chance there are actually mentally handicapped. That surely warrants a mention, doesn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.154.11.34 (talk) 02:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure where this determination to advance a racist agenda is coming from, but there is no such thing as "legally retarded" and there are no valid data supporting any such conclusion regarding African-Americans. --Drmargi (talk) 03:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

there is such a thing as legal mental handicaps in many countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.0.223 (talk) 22:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

It's possible to have legal standing as a person with a disability, depending on a country's laws. That's a far cry from some imprecise notion of being "legally retarded" as you noted above. ADA, which would govern Africa-Americans, does not in any fashion define anything remotely like "legal retardation" or establish any criteria for a given disability label. That's limited to P.L. 108-446, and only for the purposes of special education eligibility, and only then after a battery of assessments that cannot include any IQ test, precisely because of the bias inherent to them that leads to the ludicrous conclusion presented in the first posting. --Drmargi (talk) 23:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

If the page is semiprotected, as it seems to be...

....could someone please add the {{sprotected2}} template to it? --128.12.103.70 (talk) 18:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

So let it be written, so let it be done. --Kbh3^rdtalk 21:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I was very confused when I tried to revert a vandal and found that I couldn't, but there was no lock. --128.12.103.70 (talk) 02:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

AKA Kelsey Puckett —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.70.90 (talk) 21:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Prominent link to "Half-Wit"

This article starts off with a prominent redirection from "Half-Wit." The computer whizz who placed it there explained (see Archive 1) his opinion that a half-wit was a person who was an idiot through being "sub normal" intelligence-wise. Do we really need to keep this link at the head of the article? NRPanikker (talk) 22:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I think not. This article is rife with archane notions and errors - its basic definition of MR is at least 20 years out of date and unreferenced. Linking to terms such as half-wit is pointless, because the terms are far from equivalent. --Drmargi (talk) 12:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Half-wit redirects to this article and the dab notice is necessary otherwise no one will find the House episode. Cburnett (talk) 23:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I removed the mention of the redirect and also redirected Half-Wit to Half-Wit (House). I believe this solves everyone problems. I don't know about other cultures but in Australia the term is considered very insulting for a person with a mental disability. I don't believe it's an appropriate or necessary redirect. --Roobz (talk) 07:09, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Why the section on Archaic Terms?

Why long section on archaic terms... it seems unnecessarily insulting to give them so much prominence. Maybe a one-sentence mention but a whole section? --Calan (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Censoring history because you find it unpleasant is a really horrible rationale for removing it. You should *add* to the article to "drown out" the prominence of such a section, not delete. Cburnett (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Can we add an entry for "special"? - Denimadept (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The heading "archaic terms" has been restored. Traditional does not accurately reflect the status of these terms in contemporary usage, particularly in the field where they are viewed as both highly archaic and highly pejorative. The link from Idiot has been fixed accordingly.

It may seem insulting to list these terms, but they are still out there, and if not discussed, will not be given appropriate treatment in the common parlance. The use of "retard" as an insult reflects the need for kids and adults alike to understand what is and isn't acceptable. Far better we discuss, and demystify these terms than try to pretend they don't exist. Special, on the other hand, is just a euphemism that's grown out of the use of "special education" and "special needs" in the schools, at least in the US. Drmargi (talk) 21:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

"See Also"

Should "Flowers for Algernon" really be listed here? There are many fictional works about mental disabilities... why list just this one? The "see also" section has also been vandalized occasionally. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EverettP (talk • contribs) 04:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted 'African American' from the see also list. That seemed a tad offensive...69.118.212.71 (talk) 18:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Standard Deviations for WAIS-III/WISC-IV, SB incorrect

I believe the SD's for the WAIS-III and WISC-IV (the most updated Wechsler tests used) are both 15. The Stanford-Binet is 16. I don't want to change it without someone else verifying this. The version of the test (III for the WAIS) should be identified as well. The discussion around the tests seems more than necessary for this topic too.

Last I looked it was 14 for the WAIS-III and WISC-IV, and 15 for the Stanford-Binet. The difference is inconsequential, either way since their all largely worthless. --Drmargi (talk) 05:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

1 sd = 15 on the WAIS, soon to be WAIS-IV--Vannin (talk) 02:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Dangerous Editing

Contrary to what people think, Mental Retardation will begin with intelligence quotient of 67>below. Also, Wikipedia has been making VERY dangerous comment that connects Autism to Mental Retardation when in reality, studying and recent investigations that looked at Autism proved opposite, not mentioning Autism is NOT connected through MR! Listen close, because Wikipedia has mentioned the hints saying most Autistics require longer term cares and will never be independent! Wikipedia is a VERY dangerous information source for Autism AND for Mental Retardation, not mentioning the editors may have tendencies to create blocking devices for whoever the editors are thinking created problems in Wikipedia when the truth is opposite. And unfortunately my partners were among these people who fell victims to Wikipedia blocking by stupid editors who are really hateful, prejudice and very contempting!

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mcmlxxxviii 10:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)