Talk:Front crawl

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I as a swimmer would like to comment that front crawl is regarded as the fastest stroke but is not always the fastest depending on who is swimming it. I've seen other strokes have times that rival front crawl and even beat it.

I revised it to indicate that the British swam heads-up breaststroke; I hope that is what was meant (it was not entirely clear to me).

Revised the "maximum speed" from 1.7 to 2 m/s: 50 seconds for 100m is not uncommon and equals 2 m/s.

Also revised the section on body movement. This is how the first two sentences stood:

"The body stays as flat in the water as possible to reduce drag. The body rolls sideways with both the hips and the shoulders with every arm stroke such that the shoulder of the recovering arm is higher than the shoulder of the pushing/pulling arm."

These two sentences contradict one another: either the body stays flat, or it rolls. In fact, it rolls, and this is not discouraged in modern coaching, for the reasons I've given.

Mswake 21:07, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The 50 seconds for 100m includes the start and turns, which are considerably faster than actual swimming. If you exclude the start and turns, you'll have a speed of about ~~1.7m per seconds~~ 2.17 meter per second. I change the speed ~~back to 1.7m~~ , and clarify a bit. My source for the speeds is www.swim.ee. It also goes into more detail about the speed of the turns and starts. -- Chris 73 | Talk 22:33, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The stroke is most commonly called "The Australian Crawl" rather that just "Australian Crawl".

step-by-step illustrations

Someone should make some step-by-step illustrations/pictures of the swimming movement. (Unsigned comment by User:Thug outlaw69 )

Good idea, why don't you do it? -- Chris 73 | Talk 18:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, because the reason I suggested it is because I'm more of a visual learner so I don't quite get the movements by reading it in the page. Thug outlaw69 03:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was once thinking about making some, but then, I am a terrible artist. As for now, please check out the two external links, both show photos of the different parts of the stroke -- Chris 73 | Talk 08:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

not mirror symmetric

I think I saw a competition on TV where one of the swimmers used a hybrid between butterfly and front crawl, I mean front crawl with body undulation and without complete mirror symmetric arm movement. What and who was that? Arnero 18:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Freestyle swimming

Hello. Should this article be merged with freestyle swimming? They are similar strokes. --Mayfare 19:18, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well known freestyle swimmers

This list already exists on the freestyle swimming article. This duplication should be deleted for that reason. Additionally it does not fit in this article as it is on the front crawl.FoamEarplugs (talk) 08:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"This style is sometimes referred to as the Australian crawl or the American crawl although these are, in fact, more specific variants both of which qualify as front crawl strokes.[1] "

hello,

info provided in footnote link ("Mary Donahue: swimming vocabulary, College, 29 April 2008")doesn't elucidate any more than what wiki article currently says.

the section "US History Encyclopedia:" at http://www.answers.com/topic/swimming seems to make distinction clearer....i.e., australian - has foot action but seemingly not synched with arm action. american - has foot action synched with arm action. see its paragraph 5 "Noting the way they combined the overhand stroke with kicking action, he taught this new method to his six sons and other British émigrés. His sons, in turn, carried the "Australian crawl" back to England and the United States. The American swimmer Charles Daniels improved on the "Australian crawl" by timing his kick to his armstroke."

regards. 68.173.14.215 (talk) 04:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]