Talk:Mischling

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I removed the last para because I content that it wasn't neutral, if not inaccurate. (See NPOV.) I googled mishling and "John Kerry" and got a whopping 5 results, only one of which made any direct mention of Kerry and this word. See the Google results. -- Alcarillo 23:43 23 Apr 2004 UTC

Judging by the article itself, this seems to be a German word, rather than an English word. It does appear in 1570 english language pages found by Google though. Etxrge 07:07, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

modern German usage

In modern German usage: I have not heard the word for persons for a long time. (Insulting usage excepted) Most of the time it is used for dog or cats from differend race, with out any negative meaning.

Thats true though. Germans don't use these typical anglo-american race classification anymore nowerdays. Since nobody has a RACE or heritage sektion printed in his passport its not only uncommon to use phrases containing Mischling(hybrid, mongrel, half breed) it alway raises public media discussions if things like afro-german or ethiopien-descended-german etc. are broadcasted. The general consens is to call them german if they are germans(by citizenship or practice).

Johannes Zukertort ?

The article has a link to a Johannes Zukertort (described as a "last-rank general", but this lnk goes to a German-Polish Jew who was a chess master, and died in 1888....Was there indeed a mischling General Zuckertort? Engr105th (talk) 18:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing out the problems. Now take another look at the list and follow the links. "Zukertort" is the correct spelling. Richard David Ramsey 17:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Omissions

1. The article says nothing about what happened, in general terms, to these people. After all, the majority didn't become officers in the Wehrmacht. Norvo (talk) 23:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2. Much of the article is identical with this text:

So what's going?

3. On what authority is the claim that Jews who converted to Christianity became Roman Catholics rather than Protestants based?

4. Baptismal records were used very widely to prove non-Jewish ancestry. Priests and pastors all over Germany were inundated with requests like 'Please send me my Aryan grandmother' and the like. I hope to find a source for this soon. Obviously, the churches in Germany found whole matter extremely embarrassing for decades after 1945 and it's not something that's widely talked about. Norvo (talk) 23:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On your Probe 3, Norvo, see the note concerning p. 300 of Bryan Mark Rigg, Hitler's Jewish Soldiers. But besides the possible collocation of ethnic Jews with Roman Catholic geographic areas, Protestantism is by nature already diverse; with 28 Lutheran denominations in Germany during the Third Reich, Lutherans were possibly less concerned with, or even cognizant of, the existence of yet another religious group (Jews) in a town in Lutheran Germany while a synagogue in heavily Catholic Bavaria would have stood out as a distinct variation from the overall pattern. Additionally, conversion to Roman Catholicism offered, beyond the borders of Germany, affiliation with the largest fellowship in Christendom and could thus be perceived as more advantageous. Finally, the more-likely high church atmosphere of Roman Catholicism may have appealed to those Jews who were accustomed to a liturgical atmosphere in many synagogues. My statements are conjectural, and I welcome anyone with referenced facts and numbers to shed more light on the answer to Norvo's Probe 3. Richard David Ramsey 05:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)