Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quick Stop Entertainment
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No sufficient third-party sources, the site's only claim to fame is that it is owned by Kevin Smith and hosts his podcast SModcast. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 16:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Do Not Delete- No, it's claim to fame is that it's contributors include Kevin Smith, Scott Mosier, Dana Snyder, Paul Dini, Christopher Stipp and Peter Sanderson all of whom are notable enough to have their own wikipedia pages. Please stop asking to delete pages that you have a personal vendeta against. This is a young page, it needs time to have its content filled. The whole point of an online dictionary is to be able to cross reference information. This page is relevent to 7 other different wikipedia articles therefore making it of note. --Cabinfeveraaron (talk) 17:20, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Delete- I'm one of the members of the view Askew/Kevin Smith Wikiproject and even I believe this page should be deleted. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, it's an encyclopedia, and this doesn't seem notable enough for an encyclopedia. Especially if people would like to see what "Quick Stop Entertainment" is, they can view the website. If you'd like to possibly create this page in the future once you have non-Kevin Smith related references, make it a subpage or sandbox and work on it. But I agree that this article should be deleted. --HELLØ ŦHERE 17:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Of course it's not a dictionary. We're are not listing the meaning of words. Have you not heard of Paul Dini? Dana Snyder? Christopher Stipp? Kevin Smith is not the only contributor. Please could you read the article in future.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabinfeveraaron (talk • contribs) 17:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment- "The whole point of an online dictionary is..." These are your exact words. Which is why I said that. And I didn't say it was only Kevin Smith. I just don't agree that this should be an article because I don't believe it is notable. --HELLØ ŦHERE 17:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment- It also seems by the content listed in the article and your username that you have a biased towards this article and its contents. (What I mean by this is the "Cabin Fever" and "Cabin Fever Aaron".) --HELLØ ŦHERE 17:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I'm not saying I am notable, I am not looking for a page for myself. I am saying that this website is mentioned on 7 other pages for individuals who are considered notable. These notable people are contributors to the site so I believe it is a notable article. I can edit my name out of the page if it makes you feel comfortable. It doesnt change the status of the website.--Cabinfeveraaron (talk) 17:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Cabinfeveraaron , I'd appreciate it if you would stop accusing me of nominating articles because of some nonexistent "vendetta". I am a huge fan of both Kevin Smith and SModcast, but that has to stay separate of my editing on Wikipedia. The article does not cite any reliable third-party sources, and the site itself does not meet WP:WEB. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 18:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Neutral Is Kevin Smith (the nom spelled it wrong) notable? Yes he is. Is this? unsure (remember, notability is not inherited), but i'd love to see some reliable sources of its mention somewhere else that isn't connected to Smith (newspapers, other websites etc.)) Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 19:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Is this article in the Austin Chronicle proof enough?
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A388487 --192.156.110.33 (talk) 10:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment That could possibly be used as one source, and it seems third party, but one reference cannot build an article. --HELLØ ŦHERE 10:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment As mentioned previously, this article is barely a week old. These references can be found. It just requires time.--192.156.110.33 (talk) 10:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Another third party reference has been added to account Quick Stops history with the MPAA http://www.filmjunk.com/2008/06/06/kevin-smiths-zack-and-miri-teaser-pisses-off-the-mpaa/ --192.156.110.34 (talk) 10:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Attempt I have made an attempt to clean up the page. It still isn't great, but it looks somewhat passable now. --HELLØ ŦHERE 11:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Looking at the sources provided, I still don't feel like they're enough to justify the article. The Austin Chronicle only mentions the site, and the article itself is about Clerks II. The "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" site doesn't mention the site aside from linking to it, the IDW page doesn't mention it at all, the People.com story is about Matt Damon, it doesn't even BEGIN to mention Kevin Smith, let alone QSE, and the firstshowing.net link is talking about the trailer for Zack and Miri Make a Porno. It only mentions that it was hosted on QSE before it was taken down. The sources are trivial, and I've done some searching to try to find sources to help the article along, but I haven't found any substantial coverage yet. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 14:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment This is a third party source which talks about the Quick Stop panel at Comic Con. It mentions its popularity among other things in the article. I would assume this would be a good reference to add. It came up on the first page in a google search. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16160 --Cabinfeveraaron (talk) 15:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment You claim that the IDW page did not mention the site or Ryalls involvement http://www.idwpublishing.com/bios2.shtml I'll ammend the link in the article for those who are unable to find it from the main page. This page from Variety also mentions Ryall and Smiths involvement with the site. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117869172.html?categoryid=1019&cs=1&query=%22chris+ryall%22 This too will be added.--Cabinfeveraaron (talk) 17:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Correct me if I am wrong (which I know some one will because some people have nothing better to do than correct Wikipedia) but the purpose of an encyclopedia is to be a repository of information. Wikipedia even more so because it is online and thus open to a wider amount of content. To delete any information seems wrong. In fact I seem to recall another group of individuals who tried to keep information they did not deem important from the public. They were called Nazis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patchbohan (talk • contribs) 19:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that I see the Nazi parallel, but that's fine. Actually, one of Wikipedia's policies is that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Subjects must be proven to be notable as per Wikipedia's guidelines for notability. If a subject does not meet those criteria, then it is not notable enough to stay. If we were to subscribe to your school of thought. Wikipedia would be awash with useless articles. There has to be some system of checks and balances. Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 19:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm calling you a Nazi Rwiggum because you seem to think it is your job to delete content YOU don't feel is notable. I agree there should be a system of checks and balances but you deleted a page before it was even up for a day. That's not checks and balances, that's just being a douche without too much time on his page. A lot more people care about Ken Plume, Snydecast, Smodcast and QuickstopEntertainment than all those stupid emo bands you make pages for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patchbohan (talk • contribs) 05:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- How are personal attacks going to help your cause? It is not just Rwiggum, I have personally edited this page and I don't feel it is notable. And your use of Clerks quotes about Nazi's won't help your argument. --HELLØ ŦHERE 08:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
While I appreciate your sentiments Patchbohan could you please at least keep this civil. I feel the only way to win an argument like this is to edit the page and improve it's chances. While I agree that this page shouldn't be deleted this is the only way to make sure it isnt. The likes of Cabinfeveraaron have done so, please try to imitate.