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Scott Carson

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I've listed this article for peer review because Malcolmxl5 (talk · contribs) has done some really good work on this article, and I myself have also contributed, although to a lesser extent. We think the article is now getting close to Good Article quality and would welcome comments with that goal in mind, but any advice that would improve the article generally would be excellent. I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on how we should cover the Croatia game, without overplaying or underplaying its significance, and what quotes (if any) we might use around it. Cheers, Jameboy (talk) 20:28, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carson did not make any appearances for Leeds in the 2004–05 season,[11] and although Leeds were keen to retain Carson,[12] he rejected offers of a new contract and with his contract due to expire in the summer of 2004, he was sold to Liverpool in January 2005 for a transfer fee of £750,000.[13][14]
This sentence is too long and the bit about his contract expiring in 2004 and being sold in 2005 is apparently contradictory. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He returned to Liverpool at the end of the season and in July 2006, extended his contract with Liverpool by two years, keeping him at the club until 2011.[22]
This needs to be changed. Even though he signed a contract that was due to last until 2011, he was sold in 2008. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Carson did not want to sit on the substitute bench at Liverpool for another season while Liverpool wanted him to gain experience and return to compete with Jose Reina for a place in the first-team in the 2007–08 season,[23] and in August 2006, Carson joined Charlton Athletic on loan for the 2006–07 season,[24] after Charlton failed in a bid for Norwich City goalkeeper Robert Green.[25]
This sentence needs to be broken up. One way of fixing it is to remove the first part, because I doubt if there is evidence that Carson wanted to play elsewhere at that point. The fact Liverpool wanted him to gain experience is evidenced by the fact he was loaned out. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
he played in all but three of Villa's 38 league matches, keeping 11 clean sheets, during the 2007–08 season.[30][31]
From memory, I think two of the games he missed were due to Villa not being able to use him against Liverpool due to the contract between the two clubs. This may be worth mentioning. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:54, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A week later, he made his competitive debut in a crucial match against Croatia, which England lost 3–2 and were eliminated from Euro 2008, with Carson being held particularly culpable for the first goal.[46]
Maybe I'm biased, but I think the way that goal was conceded by Carson is worth mentioning. "Shot from 25-30 yards by Niko Kranjčar that was straight at Carson, who could only spill the ball into the net". Or something like that. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Peanut4 (talk · contribs)

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Career
  • "He played nine games, keeping five clean sheets and helping Wednesday to 18 points, and was a key factor in helping Wednesday to escape relegation." I had to read this a couple of times to understand it. I suggest a re-word after points.
  • "Carson did not want to sit on the substitute bench at Liverpool for another season while Liverpool wanted him to gain experience and return to compete with Jose Reina for a place in the first-team in the 2007–08 season,[23] and in August 2006, Carson joined Charlton Athletic on loan for the 2006–07 season,[24] after Charlton failed in a bid for Norwich City goalkeeper Robert Green." A long sentence. I suggest breaking it up.
  • "He made 38 appearances and was in outstanding form" POV; needs a reference.
  • "Charlton Supporters' Club" Is this their name or is it "Charlton Athletic Supporters' Club"?
  • Why did he finally leave Liverpool? Was it his choice or Benitez's?
International
  • "Carson was first called up to the England Under-21 squad in October 2003, a month after his 18th birthday, for the UEFA Under-21 Championship 2004 qualifier against Turkey, despite having played only four games for England at other levels and having not yet made his competitive debut for Leeds United's first team,[4] and made his under-21 debut four months later in a 3–2 win for England against the Netherlands in February 2004." Another long sentence.
  • "with Carson being held particularly culpable for the first goal." I would say why he was culpable.

Seems pretty close to GA standard, if not already there. Peanut4 (talk) 23:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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