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Chris Musni

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Fails WP:BIO... most search hits come from show listings. No cult following or significant press coverage. He did get second place in "Hong Kong Funniest Person Contest" but outside of a brief mention in Time 1, it isn't a notable contest. Delete Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I am the article's primary author. There are many reasons to keep this article.
  1. The article has been revised to address some of the original concerns expressed by Mr. Vernon. And despite my requests, Mr. Vernon has not worked with me to try to resolve certain of his comments (such as his belief the the Hong Kong Funniest Person Contest is not notable), although I acknowledge that Mr. Vernon has maintained a cordial dialogue with me on other points. Moreover, the views of one person does not create a consensus necessary to delete the article.
  2. Chris has had significant roles in notable comedy performances in Hong Kong, including sharing the stage with Paul Ogata, Jami Gong and other notable comedians at The TakeOut Comedy Club Hong Kong, a notable club. Thus, the article satisfies one of the explicit criteria of WP:BIO.
  3. Chris has a cult following, albeit within Hong Kong. I admit this point is difficult to demonstrate via published sources. But you should consider that Comedy Central's website is banned in China.[1] Thus, comedy does not receive a lot of press attention in Asia as a general matter. Stand-up comedy in Hong Kong is an emerging art form, and Chris Musni is one of the leaders, which can be verified through the various show listings that highlight Chris' performances.
  4. Chris has made unique contributions to the field of entertainment. He is one of of only a handful of notable comedians of partial Filipino descent. The fact that he is also leading the emergence of stand-up comedy in china is also unique.
  5. The contest, the HK International Comedy Festival, where Chris finished third is notable. Aside from a discussion in Time, the contest has also been discussed on Punchline magazine [1] and the South China Morning Post [2]. Paul Ogata, a notable comedian, hosted the finals last year and Tom Cotter is hosting this year. The contest is also run by Jami Gong, a notable comedian. Gchuva (talk) 07:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 08:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 03:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, and other productions -- Chris was a finalist in the 2007 Hong Kong Comedy Competition (a notable competition) and is currently a semi-finalist in the 2008 competition. The verification for this point can be found on the Internet and is cited in the article.
  2. Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following -- How can I prove in the absence of significant press coverage. As I said, stand-up comedy is emerging in HK and there is still considerable censorship in China generally. As such, press coverage is only starting to happen for comedians.
  3. Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment -- Chris is leading the stand-up comedy scene in Asia. I consider this to be a very unique contribution. What other Asian stand-up comedians performing primarily in Asia do you considerable more notable than Chris Musni? He is easily among the top 10. The verification for this is, again, his place in the finals as well as all of his show listings in Asia.Gchuva (talk) 00:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ http://punchlinemagazine.com/blog/stand-up-comedy-around-the-world-a-glance-at-china%E2%80%99s-and-africa%E2%80%99s-scenes
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