Talk:Lancaster, Lancashire
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Move?
I'd like to see other editor's opinions before I go ahead with a formal request move poll. I don't really care about the page name much, but at the moment it goes against conventions. If going by the general conventions of UK geography it should be "Lancaster, Lancashire" as is the case for other British settlements needing disambiguation (with some Welsh exceptions as Welsh counties are confusing!). However, if you object to that on the grounds that it overdisambiguates (something the guidelines recommend against) the page should be at "Lancaster, United Kingdom". Joe D (t) 17:59, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- yep, move it. The only reason I haven't moved it myself is because so many pages point at it where it is. There are only a few others left like this. Morwen - Talk 11:37, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed; move it, please. I think "Lancaster, Lancashire" would be best, but "Lancaster, United Kingdom" would be fine too. Not the existing "Lancaster, England", though.--Ministry 12:52, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed; move it, please, as above Skull 'n' Femurs 01:29, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- Done now. Morwen - Talk 08:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Various University related corrections.
This may be considered innappropriate, particularly as I am new, and given the likely propensity of univeristy student contributors, but (according to Lancaster City Council's Employment Monitoring Report, link www.lancaster.gov.uk) the University is not (and indeed never has been) the area's largest employer (it's the NHS). Also it is not fact, but marketing, to state that "infolab" (a building that has not yet been established 5 years), is the most excellent centre for IT in the whole of North West England, which includes Manchester and Liverpool(I appreciate that the phrasing is ambiguous and that is probably not the intended meaning, but it is what is conveyed to a non-student). Finally, St Martin's College is a multi-campus educational institution likely within the next 18 months to acheive university status, and teaches more students in areas other than teacher training than it teaches in teacher training. Should these aspects not be corrected?--Necessaryx 19:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- I couldn't find anything in the PDF linked to.. do you have a page number? As for Infolab, the article says it is "North West's Centre of Excellence for Information and Communication Technologies" - this doesn't mean the building is "excellent". As for St. Martin's college, if it does indeed get Univursity status, then the text can be changed. I think it should stay as it is for now. -- 9cds(talk) 19:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Page 14 table 5, Employees at Lancs Uni 2,200; employees at the hospitals, 2,500. In terms of factual research, stating that something is a "Centre of Excellence for ICT" is not objective. Stating that, say xyz Government Body designated something to be Centre of Excellence which means abc, may be a different way of putting it. Re SMC, It wasn't the university status that i considered misleading, it's the "teacher training" part, when the college actually trains more nurses, allied proffesions (i.e. physiotherapy etc.) and youth workers than teachers. --Necessaryx 20:25, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, with the facts there, then there should be no reason why the "largest employer" line can't go. The infolab line should stay, this is how he building is described: subjective or not. May as well remove the line about SMC as well :) -- 9cds(talk) 21:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- The term "New North West ICT Centre of Excellence" is the title of one press release - it's not the official description of the building, merely saying that a new 'Centre of Excellence' in the field of ICT had opened in North West England.
- 'Centre of Excellence' is a specific and valid jargon phrase - InfoLab21 is called a 'Centre of Excellence' irrespective of whether it is excellent (or a centre, for that matter).
- Actually, the University hosts a number of 'Centres of Excellence' - should we be singling-out InfoLab21 for especial mention? Ministry 15:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, with the facts there, then there should be no reason why the "largest employer" line can't go. The infolab line should stay, this is how he building is described: subjective or not. May as well remove the line about SMC as well :) -- 9cds(talk) 21:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Page 14 table 5, Employees at Lancs Uni 2,200; employees at the hospitals, 2,500. In terms of factual research, stating that something is a "Centre of Excellence for ICT" is not objective. Stating that, say xyz Government Body designated something to be Centre of Excellence which means abc, may be a different way of putting it. Re SMC, It wasn't the university status that i considered misleading, it's the "teacher training" part, when the college actually trains more nurses, allied proffesions (i.e. physiotherapy etc.) and youth workers than teachers. --Necessaryx 20:25, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
What The
Citation for the Dickens fact? Pliny 23:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
New photo (location)
would quite like to delete the image showing the location of lancs and replace with this photo
http://www.lancs.ac.uk/travel/travel.htm which has already been uploaded as "lancslocation001" much nicer and clearer. What do u think?
Zewill 12:07, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- The current image is the standard for locations, it seems. The dot is superimposed on it according to the co-ordinates given. The one you've linked to would present copyright issues. As such, the current image should remain in place. - Dudesleeper 14:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Alencastro
Does anybody know why, when the "Other place names" feature is activated on google earth, does Lancaster come up as being called Alencastro and Alencaster. I have never heard the city called these names before and i wondered if they had got it wrong? Pinster2001 14:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- I Googled Alencastro and Alencaster and a few of the search results suggested that these are names for Lancaster in some other languages. However, none of other interwiki links on Lancaster indicated names other than "Lancaster". --A bit iffy 10:05, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Pronunciation
How do you pronounce "Lancaster"?
Freaks?
Could someone please explain the reason for "freaks" appearing in the "Features of Lancaster" section? The link directs to a page about a film on which I see no relevance to Lancaster... Please clear this up or if it is somehow a case of vandalism remove it. Thank you.--90.240.26.85 15:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Music
The Keith Baxter link is definately not the Keith Baxter referred to. It is arguable whether he is that well known, the band was though.
- Fixed that. --MorganaFiolett 09:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Transport
Perhaps a section about transport could be added? I'm looking somewhat here for graduate school, and wanted to see what transport in the city would be like. So obviously I have a selfish investment in it, but I think it would be nice to have in general! matt91486 04:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Etymology
I have removed this paragraph and replaced it:
The etymology of Lancaster is derived from its large and imposing castle (the "caster" part), and the river that runs through it, the Lune (a name deriving from old Celtic sources). Language evolution from the old name of Loncastra, the castle-town on the Lune, gives the modern name of Lancaster.
No citation is given and the fact that the name refers to the present castle is misleading The name existed before the castle and the common 'caster'/'chester' suffix in British placenames is well known to refer to Roman not medieval sites. Psammead (talk) 20:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)