Talk:Comparison of VoIP software

Cisco Unified Call Manager

I think that the Cisco UCM should definetly be included as server software, since it is one of the most pervasive Enterprise IP PBX platforms. The Cisco IP Communicator is on the list of softphones.

The page does not answer important questions

This protocol details are good etc but I'm afraid most people have no idea what are those about. It would be great if someone would make a table like this: are subscription to the service (if needed) + software free? does one need to setup a server or are there free (and reliable) public servers? what other features, like chat and file transfer, included? does it support call to/from landline and mobile phones? etc.

SJPhone

Why SJPhone in "Server software"?!?! It's softphone only,IMHO.

iChat

Apple's iChat also has its own "voice chat" software built-in, although it only works (to the best of my knowledge) between Mac OS X computers. Interestingly enough, you can use iChat to connect to Google Talk (it works perfectly), but although both might negotiate the same VoIP codecs, they can't talk to each other. Yet. Gwyneth Llewelyn 20:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that qualifies as VoIP. Feel free to add it. --Swift 06:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

iChat is clearly not a SIP phone. Can I remove it ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.140.247.26 (talk) 15:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TelTel-In?

I see no evidence of "Tel-Tel In" anywhere on TelTel's site, nor elsewhere on the internet, besides this page. Does anyone else know of it? Zauberfisk 21:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coccinella is VoIP software?

It looks pretty data-only to me...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.165.235.73 (talk • contribs) 07:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

From the download page: "Since the current release contains experimental voice (VoIP) support, we also provide builds without this." --Swift 06:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

separation between server and client software?

Hello,

I'd find it "better" to have this software list separated between server software, client software, and probably also separated along the line of closed systems (like skype), systems that require a IPTP (like most SIP stuff), and P2P stuff (like eg. Asterisk with its IAX protocol). Also, an eye on the specific security features would be great. Please note that support for ZRTP is "creeping in" to other telephony applications, too (eg. twinkle).

On the server side, I've found OpenPBX (forked from Asterisk) and Bayonne not yet mentioned in the overview.

The downside is that I don't have enough of a clue to make meaningful comparisons about VoIP software yet (in case you ask why I write here instead of the article page).

TIA!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.134.249.120 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I just did a big overhaul on this and am too tired to split the list up. Feel free to identify the server software and put them into a seperate list. --Swift 06:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Badly, but done. --Swift 02:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder which of these can replace hardware VoIP phones and or work with VoIP systems like those from Cisco and Nortel (E.g. BCM-50 system and 1120e phone) and Avaya, at least where they claim to in some way support SIP. --IReceivedDeathThreats (talk) 16:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OPAL link incorrect?

Hello,

in the comparison table, there's a link pair "OpenH323 and OPAL" where the OPAL link goes to a page which I can't associate with VoIP applications. FWIW, the OPAL disambiguating page also doesn't have anything that sounds remotely applicable. Maybe someone could put in a meaningful link?

TIA!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.134.249.12 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Looking..

Where are Packet8 from 8x8 and Vonage?

Still on your desk???? --Kgfleischmann 18:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Little mistake in the previous page: ekiga is not for Windows

Linkfarm

Per WP:SPAM and WP:NOT, the non-notable software should be removed. There is plenty of notable software here, so there's no need for an AfD. --Ronz 00:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the links, but kept the entries incase someone is working on new articles for notable software, or in case the companies that make the software have articles of their own which could be linked instead. --Ronz 15:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

64-bit Software

It would be useful to know which software packages support 64-bit operating systems. For example, Gizmo Project does not have a client for 64-bit linux distros yet.

Ventrilo and TeamSpeak?

I'm new to VoIP, but aren't Ventrilo and TeamSpeak also VoIP software, and should be included here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MiF86 (talk • contribs) 13:52, 15 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I am also unsure about this. Does VoIP software require some hardware component to qualify? Does the software have to follow some particular network protocol? How do you define something as VoIP? The ventrilo homepage claims that it is the "next evolutionary step of Voice over IP (VoIP) group communications software". Is this enough to qualify it for this list? (82.30.42.157 18:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Answers: Yes, no, no, see VoIP, yes. ;-)

Analysis: This list is lame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.18.130 (talk) 00:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AIM has AIM Phoneline and ICQ has ICQ Phone VoIP services

I suggest AOL Instant Messenger (AIM Phoneline) and ICQ (ICQ Phone) be included in this comparison as well, as both are running valid VoIP services with PC-Phone facilities.

Suggestion - External links to main site.

It would be handy to have external links to main website for the software. It would cleanup the dead links.--Joewski 04:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Net2Phone

why Net2Phone isn't included? the following links may be useful as references for the article

http://www.voipservicecarriers.com/comparevoipcarriersproviders.html

http://www.pc-telefon.com/voip-telephony.htm --Notopia 13:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FreeSwitch

While Freeswitch can be used as a softphone, that is not its main purpose, its primary purpose is as a server. Suggest moving from softphone to server category. Not editing to avoid WP:COI issues. --Silik0nJesus 03:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

encryption

The table says Coccinella has encryption. This is only half true. It`s encrypted (ssl to server vor jabber) but voip is complete unencrypted. In a table for voip software this is quite confusing. I would suggest to remove the encryption. Just add it if really the voip is encrypted and not something else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.183.178.85 (talk) 03:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree; let's remove the content, replacing with a ‘?’ and renaming the column Voice Encryption, and refilling with content as available. VoIP where only the login and/or negotiation is encrypted is a joke.--IReceivedDeathThreats (talk) 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Windows Messenger / Windows Live Messenger

Windows Live Messenger - dosn't support SIP Windows Messenger - support. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.26.137.136 (talk) 01:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New SIP Software

* http://qipim.com/en/
* http://xmeeting.sourceforge.net/pages/index.php
* http://www.sippoint.ru/
* http://www.miranda-im.org/
* http://www.kapanga.net/
* http://www.portsip.com/
* http://www.voipsurfer.net/ 
* http://www.nch.com.au/

List inclusion criteria

I propose all entries that do not have their own article be removed per WP:LIST, at least until we come up with better list inclusion criteria. --Ronz (talk) 21:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Too high a bar. I'd say we can remove any entry iff either the product or support is completely unavailable (in any form) for over a month. Continuing to ban offsite links is key to keeping much junk off here. --IReceivedDeathThreats (talk) 16:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, with the proviso that such a cleanup would probably require creating a few stubs for things above the WP:N bar, but that don't have articles yet. Scott.wheeler (talk) 20:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]