Talk:Sydney Grammar School

Prep Schools

"two-thirds of the incoming Year 7 at College St. are from the two Preparatory Schools"

I was just wondering. If the Prep schools are about 140 boys per year, and main school is 200 boys per year, wouldn't that make the Prep schools be providing about HALF of the year 7 intake? Just curious. I realise it could be that the Prep schools have more boys at Grade 6. Yes come to think of it that seems highly likely: how very unusual for a primary school to be top-heavy.

Correct

there are actually 180-190 boys per year in College Street. I'm a student there! Although there 140 boys in year six inluding both prep schools, about 10-15 of these would leave Grammar. The reason why there are more students in year 5 & 6 is because ten pupils enter in year 5 by acheiving good results in the entrance exam (one of which was me!) [User:DaGizza|DaGizza]]

Neutrality of the "Evaluation" section

I thought it was fairly obvious that the section wasn't neutral, but I'll explain:

• "Such achievement ranks Sydney Grammar as one of the best secondary schools on the continent." - Which ranking of schools would this be referring to? Wikipedia is not the place to evaluate how good a school is.
• "Sydney Grammar is the most academically proficient private school in NSW" - reference? I would've thought that would be James Ruse...

Those are the only two things I object to. So either the section needs a npov warning, or those two parts removed/edited. If you can provide a reference for the second part, then that's fine. I'm removing both, for now. - James Foster 08:22, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Re:Neutrality of the "Evaluation" section

Firstly, Sydney Grammar School is rated the top ranking boys private school, and the second top ranking private school in Sydney by the SMH HSC 'rank' each year, year in year out. James Ruse is NOT a private school, it is public, but selective, likes Sydney Boys High. It isnt verifiable that it is the best school academically on the continent of Australia, there is no Australia-wide rank, for all we know, Launceston High, or Wagga Wagga Boys High School could be the best, but they arnt. This is Sydney, the most competitive city academically, with the most private schools, the best schools, and the smartest students. If Grammar does well here, it does well across the country.

In Summary: SGS IS the most academically proficient private school in NSW according to the SMH HSC ranking published yearly, and since JRHS isnt a private school your example is void

SGS is among the best secondary schools on the continent because it does so well in Sydney, it must do so well nationally.

NPOV

Adding to my previous comment, while I dont doubt some of the article was a tad biased, SGS is one of the best private schools. Furthermore the day's minor war over neutrality is a little petty, especially the NPOV notice. It's just an article on a school, not Palestinian terrorism.

I didn't really think of it as a "war over neutrality". I put the NPOV notice there initially because I wanted to bring the section to someone's attention, but didn't feel like changing it at the time. The other stuff you stated above is fine, as long as you realise some of it was just opinion. If it's ranked #1 by SMH, then just say that, rather than saying it is "the best school". Although it being the best school may actually be a fact, you still shouldn't state it in a way where it looks like opinion. State who regards it as the "best school", in this case, saying SMH does would be fine. (and a reference for this sort of claim would be good, too) - James Foster 08:30, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Crest + Photos

Can someone get a good copy of the school crest, and some good photos of the school and put them up, that'd make the article look a lot better, especially with a crest in the info box. Thanks