Talk:Lydia

Culture

Lydian Culture? Religion? Rony P Q H Taril 00:47, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Lydia in Lydian?

does anyone know the Lydian name of Lydia? 85.97.40.61 21:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

"==Scientist's Input== Most likely, there was a glacier located here that scientist refer to as one of the most prominent sources of finding evidence of evolution. Unfortunally, researchers have not been able to dig down deep enough to get samples."

--removed from anon user, im assuming this is vandalism. Also noticed that in the List of Kings of Lydia article some of the first ones listed are all greek gods, I wonder how those got into the page Astrokey44 03:06, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Candaules

different accounts refer to two people being called Candaules "the Dog-strangler" - Im assuming that the correct one is the last Lydian king of the Heraclid dynasty - Mursylos - that fits in with the dates given on Candaules (735-718), rather than what it says on Gyges of Lydia - that it was Sadyattes (624 BC to 610) as it says at the wiki article there aswell. Astrokey44 03:47, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

For the Lydian name of "Lydia", you mean the Hittish term.

Language

Somebody finally came up with a source supporting the claim that Lydian is descended from Hittite.However, it is from 1986 and by a non-linguist, NOT an expert. I have added to the language article a reference from 2004 by a specialist in Anatolian languages which indicates no special relationship between Lydian and Hittite.Bill 17:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Map of Croesus' Lydia including Lycia and Ionian cities

There is a certain problem here with the language. Unlike Carian and Lycian, which with Luwian seem to belong to the Luwian subgroup, Lydian has distinct characteristics. I can't find anyone willing to say it descends from Luwian and the main question seems to have been whether it was Anatolian or some closely related IE language. Now the problem is, in these articles Arzawa is put forward as having spoken Luwian. But if you look at Melchert's maps, which are available in commons, most Luwian is spoken in eastern and southern Anatolia. The Lydia region is not covered there at all. So, either Lydia did not fall within Arzawa, or not all Arzawa spoke Luwian. Anyone know of any solutions to this before I get started on Lydia and Arzawa?Dave (talk) 18:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Misleading map

This "territorial" map even shows Lycia as part of Lydia. A good map would show cities that paid tribute to Croesus, not a modern "colored-in" territory. --Wetman (talk) 04:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)