Talk:Valleymount

Star Inn

Hi would like to Know would it be inappropriate to add an old picture of the Star Inn from the 1950's to this page? But is was tacken by an unknown family member who we presume dead.

--Hegan (talk) 14:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

• Should be no problem at all. The picture would have to be released under a free licence or made public domain. Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 14:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks I'll hopefully add it to the Valleymount page within the next month.

--Hegan (talk) 14:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal

What reason is there to merge Vallaymount and Lacken, they are on opposite side of the lake and bear no relationship to each other then being small villages in the Blessington lakes area? What about adding Poulaphouca and Hollywood to the mix or even adding them all to Blessington together with several missing villages, such as, Manor Kilbride and Ballyknocken? Not a good idea. Let these villages exist in their own right. ww2censor (talk) 21:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I was suggesting the merge of Valleymount and Lacken together as they are the same parish, and they also share many attributes. I considered this also due to Lacken being a stub article and would look better if it were joined under the heading of 'Valleymount and Lacken' making it easy to find when one wishes to look up the local area.

I realise it is your personal view that they should be left as to seperate articles and i respect that but i would like if an outside person were to review this little disagreement and decide what should be done. --Hegan (talk) 20:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Have you ever seen any Irish village articles called by a joint name like Valleymount and Lacken? I have never seen such a naming structure besides which it would fail the common naming conventions. For the time being it is a stub and there are many other Irish stubs around. That's just the way it is. BTW there is no disagreement, just a difference of opinion between two editors but if you review WP:COMMONNAME as I have linked it you will agree with me too that the status quo is correct. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 21:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Lacken is a separate place. Sarah777 (talk) 19:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

There is no support for this move so I will remove the merge tags. ww2censor (talk) 19:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Statistics

The Elevation listed in the Statistics, at 218 feet, has to be incorrect as the Poulaphouca dam crest level is 189.6m (622ft). Anybody know the correct elevation? BopSmart (talk) 01:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the coordinates and Irish grid refs and will see what gives with the heights. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 02:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I will have to check a map but I think it should be meters not feet because Blessington is 223 m, so Valleymount could well be 218 m as Blessington is higher over the Lakes than Valleymount, but I don't know where you got the dam crest level as 189.6 m from. Will confirm later but will mate the feet into meters for now. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 03:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks ww2censor, I got the crest level from: Mac Gabhann, F. (1994) The Water was the Sheriff’: The Land Beneath the Poulaphouca Reservoir. in Hannigan, K. and Nolan, W. (eds.) Wicklow: History and Society. Dublin: Geography Publications. Page 929. There is a good account of the Poulaphouca project and its effects. I think you may be right about the 218 being metres although it seems a little on the high side. BopSmart (talk) 12:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I usually use FallingRain for these stats and they say 718 ft [1] which makes 218 m. I also have the current OS map # 56 here and while it does not give exact heights Valleymount is a little over the 190 meter contour. Incidentally Blessington, which is stated as being 223 m, the same as FallingRain, has a height marker, south east of the school, at 206 m shown on the map. So go figure. I see that the Dam looks to be a little less than the 190 m contour so 189.6 could be correct though it looks closer to the 180 m contour. We need to find some better statistics but I don't know where to look. All very curious indeed. ww2censor (talk) 15:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I looked at the OS #56 map also and it's difficult to make out the elevation of Valleymount, but it appears to be less than 200m as the cream colour begins at 200m. It appears that all land in green is less than 200m. What do you think? There is a new book coming out shortly, by Christiaan Corlett, about the Poulaphouca area which may give more details of the area. Cheers BopSmart (talk) 00:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Valleymount Church

I think the paragraph on the church is very poor. I quote from a book: Ballyknockan: A Wicklow Stonecutters Village, by Seamas O Maitiu and Barry O'Reilly (1997) Page8: 'The stonecutters' local place of worship in Valleymount. Originally built in 1803, the facade is later and displays to perfection the stonecutters' craft. It's exotic style is said to be modelled on churches which Ballyknockan men saw in Mexico while working there in the last century'. Meaning the Nineteenth century. ww2censor, do you want to edit the original article? BopSmart (talk) 00:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Census Statistics

I was looking at this page, changed quite a bit since I created it, but I noticed we are missing the population, would this be availiable under the census or does no census results for Valleymount exist, and if so where would you get them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hegan (talk • contribs) 18:16, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

According to the CSO, Valleymount in included under Baltinglass No. 1 with Cross-Togher. However I cannot distinguish the village's actual population from the stats. BTW, please sign your posts. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 04:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)