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Daughter of Bilitis / SF

Hi, this sentence has been challanged during Good article nomination:
"Members of science fiction fandom (including Forrest J Ackerman) were involved in the foundation of early groups such as the Daughters of Bilitis, a lesbian rights group."
I vaguely remember you're adding it. If it came from you, do you remember the source? The histories of the organisation i've read don't mention anything about SF at all, so maybe it is in a Sf source?

For now i've removed it, so it wont hinder promotion, but would be nicer to include it with a source. Thanks!Yobmod (talk) 10:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, forgot to mention it was in Homosexuality in SF. I saw there is a print source in the Forrest J Ackerman article, but didn't know which part of the sentence in there was cited (that he helped with publishing and/or is an honorary lesbian :-) ). I'll add it with that and the ladder source. thanks!Yobmod (talk) 09:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2008_October_10#Template:Dynasty_character

Since you decided to speedy delete the template, I closed the active discussion on Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2008_October_10#Template:Dynasty_character. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete Criteria

Hi! I noticed that you removed the speedy that I had added to Channel M Breakfast (http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Channel_M_Breakfast&diff=244872218&oldid=244870947). I'm kind of new at this - I'm trying to help where I can but I could do with some hints once and a while. Basically, here I was wondering if you could clue me in as to why that was a bad speedy, and what makes a good speedy? My understanding was that A7 provides for speedy delete for any kind of real life person/organization/company etc that has no indication that its subject is important. Was this not the case for the article in question, or was there something else I missed? Thanks for the help! Maethordaer (talk) 02:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. I hadn't thought about the product as a category, so that's helpful to know. Thanks! Maethordaer (talk) 02:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:RockManQ/RfA Opinions

Could you perhaps restore it, please. It was an accidental tagging by me. Sorry to cause an inconvenience. RockManQ ^(talk) 03:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yay, Thank you. RockManQ ^(talk) 03:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nicasio Borges Page Deletion

Hi: As you deleted this page because you did not knew the person could you please send me all the information of the page to info@artedeloeste.com This was valuable information but seems it was not valuable enough for wikipedia. Dissapointed completed of wikipedia, dont thinks of it as a source of information but its a big blog who people have fun deleting other people posts. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enbob (talk • contribs) — Enbob (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Wikipedia:Unsuccessful searches (2002-07)

You deleted this as G6, but it had previously been deleted and was just restored by another admin. You probably didn't notice that, for this is therefore not uncontroversial maintenance to remove it. It could be argued that it [provides a useful historical record of Wikipedia. I have accordingly restored it to facilitate matters, but of course you can take it to MfD. DGG (talk) 14:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I found it while checking through some deleted contributions. As far as I can tell, it seems to have been an automated log of unsuccessful search results. I can think of no reason that it should be inaccessible to non-admins, which is all deletion does. In fact I'll move it to a subpage of Wikipedia:Historical archive. Graham87 04:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion in error: "Works by the U. S. government are not eligible for U. S. copyright protection."

As I understand the log entry, you deleted the page "Satire by Vic Morrow" for "G 12: Blatant copyright infringement". As noted on the deleted page, the work in question was produced by a Department of the United States government--this can be verified by viewing the work itself at the link referenced in the page. Furthermore, recall what is published at http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#piu where the copyright office of the U. S. government itself states, "Works by the U. S. government are not eligible for U. S. copyright protection." Therefore, it seems to me that there is no infringement--blatant or otherwise--and that the page should be restored.

I am sorry, if I misunderstood your objection, but based on my understanding, the article should be restored.

mjk (talk) 18:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for listening to my arguments and restoring the article (for the time being). Submissions to publishers have been rejected for lack of notability through the ages and around the world. And I can accept this. But I would hate to be thought of as a blatant copyright infringer--so I thank you for your fairness in reconsidering that judgment.--mjk (talk) 07:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion due to lack of reliable source?

OK, apparently you deleted Satire by Vic Morrow because the referenced source is hosted by an unreliable source (YouTube).

The work itself--not the provider--claims that it is the product of the U. S. government. This claim (and the title of the work) is embedded in the work at about 3'19" both visually and aurally. There is no copyright claim anywhere--indeed, there can be none for a government work--but there is a clear statement that the work was produced by the Social Security Administration. Is this a Wikipedia Catch-22 that requires copyright proof for works that cannot be copyrighted?
How does the posited unreliability of the provider break the assertion of provenance of the work itself?
Do you contend that the work is counterfeit? I believe that it meets any reasonable prima facie test of authenticity.
I do not believe the work could have come from anywhere; I believe, based on its content, that it comes from the U. S. government, and is therefore copyright-free.
Do you think the title is bad? Perhaps "Satire of Last Year at Marienbad by Vic Morrow" is clearer. The words are his own, perhaps "send-up" instead of "satire".
Do you think the article is not of interest? The Vic Morrow page was viewed over 200,000 times in 200809. True, Last Year at Marienbad was visited merely 3,800 times last month, but it is a Golden Lion winner. I suspect that there would indeed be interest.
"Etc." You have other objections, I see. What might they be?

I greatly respect your efforts to keep Wikipedia the great resource that it is. It is because of the results of those efforts that I wish to contribute to it myself. I feel that I have taken care in sourcing, writing, editing, and linking an article, which in a very small way usefully expands the content.

mjk (talk) 21:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Direct Action Weston

Could you please restore Direct Action Weston? Here is a reference which I would like to add to the article: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbprotest0720pnjul20,0,5427184.story -- Eastmain (talk) 02:57, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reference is of a respectable length, and it's from a reliable source, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, so I think the article would pass the general notability guideline. -- Eastmain (talk) 03:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Patna School of Painting

You had deleted the page Patna School of Painting based on - G12: Blatant copyright infringement. Log - [1].

I want to revive the page after necessary modification. I wanted to do so, when the page existed, but was not able to do because of lack of time. Could you please help me to recover the page so that I can modify it to avoid any copyright issue. I want to recover the page, instead of starting afresh, because it contained a photogallery. Manoj nav (talk) 06:34, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot. I have received the mail. Manoj nav (talk) 18:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Hey, I replied to you over at my talk page, thanks for your concern. --Banime (talk) 22:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Could you please redirect Eshan to Eshan Yi Autonomous County? I couldnt because its protected. Thanks--40fifw0 (talk) 16:35, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

south carolina college of pharmacy

Orange Mike, I submitted the South Carolina College of Pharmacy page to correct something wrong on the Wikipedia site.

If you search for pharmacy schools, it gives you a list by country and by state. The University of South Carolina is listed twice, with a campus at the Medical University of South Carolina and a campus at the University of South Carolina. That is incorrect. USC has no campus at MUSC. In fact, this is like saying there is a Pepsi department at Coke.

The pharmacy colleges at USC and MUSC merged four years ago to form the South Carolina College of Pharmacy, which has a campus at each place as well as one in Greenville. Such a merge has never been done in the history of pharmacy education, which I think is pretty notable.

There are a number of other colleges of pharmacy that do have Wikipedia entries, several with substantially less information than our submission. Please reconsider your deletion or give me more information about how I can improve our submission.

Thanks!

Sccpeditor (talk) 16:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Liviu Cangeopol

Please explain why this page is not meeting the standards of Wikipedia? I have more references but I don’t understand your comments. This guy has tons of references on the Internet. Reliable references from newspapers and books. Please email me at danafree122@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by David122 (talk • contribs)

Reply

I noticed that you corrected the article Cangeopol. What else is wrong with it? Could you please fix it so everybody could leave it alone? thank you David122 —Preceding unsigned comment added by David122 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC) — David122 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Indef?

Hey Orangemike, did you really intend to indef block an IP? Cheers —Travis ^talk 00:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re Brandon Becker (not a complaint)

Hi, about this article, i was looking at the deleted history, and basically a couple of weeks ago the old content was replaced with the attack page you deleted. However, the previous version was itself an unsourced bio with little notability asserted. Is is worth restoring it or not?--Jac16888 (talk) 01:29, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, good call. Thanks for your help--Jac16888 (talk) 01:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amy Costopoulos

Read the guidelines. Amy Costopoulos appeared on the television show "In Studio" on AV (Channel 12) in Battle Creek, Michigan in 2007, in early April. That's a media network. She also appeared in the Battle Creek Enquirer in 2004. I was going to search for and add the source later, but I didn't get the chance.Kvinnan86 (talk) 01:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re InfoArt

Hi Orange Mike. Thanks so much for your message. I really apologise for any chaos I may have caused, it truly wasn't my intent to create such a controversy. I merely was passing on a message from the Saatchi Gallery as they did not know how to contact Wiki directly, and they know I sometimes contribute. Perhaps ill judged by me to be a messanger, something I will definitely consider in future. It seems there are 2 separate issues that are of concern 1)tone of my contributions which I am happy to take on board any criticism, and edit/rewrite appropriately or under guidance. 2)content issues. Please could you have a look at the discussion section on the Saatchi Gallery page, I noticed the Saatchi Gallery have left a message for an official Wiki representative to get in touch with them. Could you please bring this to the attention of the appropriate people? Many thanks for your kind assistance and understanding. Best, Infoart--Infoart (talk) 10:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lysos

Good save! I should have done that - and will next time. Best wishes, Jason Jll (talk) 19:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of ' 'Accreditation Association for Ambulatory Health Care' ' Article

Hello Orangemike:

I am troubled by the fact that you deleted this article as "blatant advertising." The AAAHC is a reputable, non-profit organization that accredits medical centers performing outpatient surgery; plastic surgery centers, dermatologists, opthalmologists, college health centers, the U.S Coastguard, the U.S. Air Force etc. It performs an essential social function in ensuring that these health care organizations meet nationally-recognized standards. As a result, it helps preserve patient safety.

What is a little puzzling to me is the fact that AAAHC does exactly the same for office-based surgery centers that the Joint Commission does for hospitals. Yet the Joint Commission has an article on Wikipedia. In fact, in that article is a list of other accrediting health care associations. So it seeems somewhat inconsistent that you deleted the AAAHC article.

GeoffreyCPGeoffreyCP (talk) 19:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Veronica Mars and Buffy

Hi Mike. Can you provide an acceptable sentence stating as fact that the show is available online on the WB television network? It's not more of a promotional tool as it is to state that House airs on Fox. Thank you Onlychild13 (talk) 13:00, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

deletion of Ballet Nouveau Colorado

There are 51 ballet companies on Wikipedia. Why is are you targeting this one for deletion prior to it being finished? [2] BNC is a non-profit organization with a company, a school and an outreach program that reaches over 20,000 people every year. Why can't it be listed on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by THDju (talk • contribs) 21:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

response

Thank you for the heads up on how to sign. As for Ballet Nouveau, I don't understand how it was an advert. It was simply a rundown of the organization with the references to articles written about the company. As I was adding more factual information, it was deleted. BNC has been selected for Dance Magazine's 2009 25 to watch - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_Magazine%27s_%2225_to_Watch%22 which is very notable in the dance community. It has also been hailed as one of the top dance companies in Colorado and one of the best schools. They are also known for their work in outreach. Could you help us (samuronin and myself) understand how to convey it's notablity faster so it does not get deleted? Thank you THDju (talk) 21:41, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AHH! I see. Unfortunatly, it would seem, for BNC, that is their mission statement. http://bncdance.com/about_bnc/index.html Should we leave the mission statement of the organization out? THDju (talk) 21:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay so no mission statements. That kinda sounds funny to me. If one is to understand the value of an organization, don't you want to know their mission statement? But okay, if that is your rule, then we must go by it. THDju (talk) 21:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow... that was harsh and mean. Especially since I know this organization guides their decisions by their mission statement. It becomes five questions for them - Does it show passion? Does it have integrity? Does it have artistic excellence? Will it be inspiring? Will it be life-changing? But I get it. You hate mission statement. Consider us educated to the ways of your wikipedia. Thank you for taking the time. THDju (talk) 21:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ketama

You must have deleted just as I was reverting to an earlier non-copyvio version, so now the GFDL is messed up, can you restore it please. RMHED (talk) 00:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. RMHED (talk) 00:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Pat's Hubba Hubba w/o a proposal first

hi - very surprised that you deleted this article without any discussion. this seems hasty. it wasn't particularly well written, but it certainly went beyond mere "blatant advertising" and included reliable sources such as The New York Times. i think it deserved a clean-up tag and a chance at a re-write before being erased with no community input. J. Van Meter (talk) 07:27, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no problem -- i'd been meaning to clean it up for a while anyway; you just forced my hand ! actually, the place is considered an institution. it's been around forever (at least three generations at this point). according to people who eat there, the media attention is warranted. here's somebody's picture of the interior (from flickr). J. Van Meter (talk) 18:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By My Side (song)

This is not an A9. A9 is only for cases where the artist is a red link or A7. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 13:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Maintaining a level of civility, even against users who are terrible, evil people.

You're probably right. But that guy was deliberately being annoying. And I haven't logged in in over a year, is why I didn't notice that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyNutty (talk • contribs) 16:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Elfster logo

why did you delete the logo?? i put all the copyright tag and logo fur information, and it goes with the article. so i don't understand. let me know. joliette (talk) 17:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)Joliette.[reply]

RE: then what does that mean: Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline i followed the rules and this is exactly what i did, i provided all these information and the {logo fur} tag etc. so what about the logos of the other websites featured in articles on wikipedia? it doesn't make any sense. what is there to do then?

Template:Non-free use rationale

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Joliette (talk • contribs) 18:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Conflict of Interest : I don't believe there is any conflict of interest as I am not employed by Elfster or anything. It's just a cool service that exists and that is even already mentioned right there: Secret Santa, and that deserves an article like any other mentionable networking websites (such as Dogster or Ning or Friendster or whatever). I realize now that writing a whole article in Wikipedia is much more difficult than it seems and that good intentions don't necessarily show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joliette (talk • contribs) 23:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! YOU!!

I'm John Wansted, one of Alberto's friends, and I'm currently on holiday using this IP. Apparently, Alberto (Mister Alcohol) has been complaining that this beer glass image has been deleted. I am writing this on behalf of him. You should have known that Alberto would be changing the tag to a proper one. Also, Alberto said that he actually created it himself and published it on the Internet in the late 90s. If you restore the image, Alberto will change the tag. Thanks for reading. — John Wansted on 92.16.12.245 (talk) 17:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why should he? He's not wasting his time on a new upload, Mike. Please restore it. Alberto expects it restored so he can do it DIRECTLY when he has more time. Cheers! — John Wansted on 92.16.12.245 (talk) 17:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What?! But it was his copyright and he published it into the public domain when his website first went online in 1995. — John Wansted on 92.16.12.245 (talk) 17:42, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For his sake (and mine), please restore it so he can do it. Thanks. — John Wansted on 92.16.12.245 (talk) 17:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Come on! For his sake, please restore it so he can do it. Thanks. — John Wansted on 92.16.12.245 (talk) 18:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hurry up, please! — John Wansted on 92.16.12.245 (talk) 19:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You've exhausted my patience... But I will remain calm on this case and ask an expert on this. Thank you for your participation. — John Wansted on 92.16.12.245 (talk) 19:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back...

...and I'm in the airport now. I don't leave here (Boston) until 10:00 Eastern Time. I mean it now. Restore the image so he can change the tag. Thank you. — John Wansted on 92.16.12.245 (talk) 12:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page move

I notice you are online. PLease could you move Leicester Lions (speedway) over Leicester Lions redirect. It was moved unneccessarily in March and left many links to the speedway ppointing at DAB. DAB to the other article is on speedway page. Thanks Waterden (talk) 17:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page Deletion (Pharmasurveyor)

Hi OrangeMike - I am coming back to working Wiki after a long hiatus, so please bear with any small mistakes I may make. I am going to place the "{{hangon}}" in the correct place, assuming I can find it.

The key issue that perplexes me with the advertisement/spam property is that the standards are apparently applied somewhat ad hoc and with double standards. It is true that Pharmasurveyor is a company and a product, but advertisement is not the primary purpose for placing it in Wiki. It is a freely available web based application and service. It also has enormous positive user value for many users (saving lives...) but we can leave the ethical can of worms aside and stick with the fundamental norms underlying Wiki here (encyclopedic resource of information on all things...).

Naturally, we need to draw lines somewhere, but unless you ascribe to a different sort of logic than the rest of the world (not meant provocatively but sincerely), then if one article legitimately exists with properties A, B, C, then it should follow that another article meeting those properties should also be accepted. In this case, I notice that Google (to say nothing of Google Health!} has a well-developed entry. This seems the appropriate analogue here to Pharmasurveyor. Both are for profit companies that are web based, but both are also services offered freely to the public. Both profit from visits... but that is a secondary matter (or?).

If you will bear with me, I would like to develop the pharmasurveyor entry in a larger context of web based services and applications related to health. Many people are asking questions about these services (and then naturally turning to Wiki for answers when they learn about such services). So, I would like to see an ontology of such services (along with an appropriate schema) created. I began with Pharmasurveyor as a seed here, largely because I am most familiar with it at present.

If you have some further thoughts on this, please let me know - I am sure we can work something out here.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Ringan Ringan (talk) 21:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Can you please merge VORTEX and VORTEX2 into VORTEX project? -- IRP ☎ 18:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Improvement of Ballet Nouveau Colorado

I apologize for the appearance of the article as a sales brochure or magazine article. I did do some touch ups after you as well. I added back information on donor Don Ferguson but it has been significantly edited so as not to appear or be "egostroking." I feel his partnership with the organization has been a key element to its development. I also apologize for the "linkfarm", this was not my intention. I did add back a couple of links after your removal though because again I feel they are important. An example would be the National Guild of Community Schools of the Arts as it is the organization that has certified the ballet school at BNC. Also wouldn't BNC's myspace and perhaps also its facebook profiles be pertinent? When I saw the myspace profile mentioned in one article (and subsequently found the facebook one when I decided to check) I believed that links to them would be helpful to glean more information on the organization under different conditions then simply the official website. I will put them in the info box at the top of the page, perhaps that is more appropriate. If not please let me know. Thank you again for your assistance and input. --Samuronin (talk) 15:26, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you're saying, those links were too general and since mentioned in the article, not necessary in the external links section. I removed the external links section entirely since the only thing there was the main site, which can be accessed through the infobox. --Samuronin (talk) 15:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea on crafting an article for the other pages, I actually was considering it, I'd just have to do some more research. Thanks. --Samuronin (talk) 15:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OH, I apologize. I did not realize this. As I'm sure is painfully obvious I am still learning. I was worried it'd be redundant however it does make sense to have the link available for someone as they come to the end of the page. --Samuronin (talk) 15:39, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maeda Gouki

Sorry, I'll try again when I get home(Gouki Maeda is a real person(japanese actor), but the computer I'm on can't get on other sites.)

When i do that I'll gather up all the information first and then create a page? Gokusen will have to wait...Oh well. Is this a real job?

So this is a real job? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by YuusukeLoveless (talk • contribs) 18:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proud Simon

This band has been growing on the New York City/Brooklyn Indie Rock Scene for almost 5 years now, and with multiple professional album releases (I've been told printing has been in the thousands) and performances in high-profile venues such as the Bowery Ballroom in Lower Manhattan.

I agree with user yrletter that this is content that is relevant towards the emerging Indie Rock scene of Brooklyn, NYC, and thusly should be allowed as an addition.

Any attempts to delete seem unnecessary, as wikipedia is a free-form encyclopedia and thus should document current arts and events, not just those of established history. Thanks!

CDMV the443 —Preceding unsigned comment added by The443 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the words of wisdom. Up-and-coming certainly is a disputable term. The reason for inclusion of Proud Simon to the Wikipedia database is based on current press, radio plays, tour schedule, recent performances, and upward-mobility of their new record, a follow up to a well-received debut. CMJ, the organization responsible for bringing together musicians around the country to play in New York City, recently listed the upcoming release of their new album. The band has 5+ year history playing all over New York and surrounding areas, including shows at high-profile venues like Pianos and the Bowery Ballroom. They are represented by PR company Team Clermont from Athens Georgia, the company behind acts such as Ruby Isle, Pattern is Movement, and many others. Wikipedia is a place to find meaningful, verifiable information. With its recent activity, as well as past history, Proud Simon qualifies as an established band in a very relevant independent scene. Thanks for the consideration, I hope to see Proud Simon posted to the site. Any suggestions for additional references are certainly welcome. Yrletter (talk) 20:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)yrletter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yrletter (talk • contribs) 20:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Emma-Kate Francis deletion

Hi OrangeMike, Just thought I would post to discuss the deletion of the Emma-Kate Francis. I totally understand the need to keep the notability of people on Wikipedia high but I feel Emma-kate deserves to be on the site. She had a masters with honours from the Royal College of Art London, possibly the most famous arts colleges in the world. She represented them on TV as part of the Innovation Project with her spork project and has since been given a bursary in recognition by The famous Goldsmiths Company of being one of the best young silversmiths in the UK. She has also featured in some of the biggest design magazines in the world including wallpaper www.wallpaper.com and Elle Decoration. She is also creating a buzz online in the US recently on stylehive.com and thisnext.com. She has also been quoted by Jo Carnegie the deputy editor of heat magazine (the UK's biggest gossip mag) as her and one of london's favourite jewellers in WM Magazine. Link to this article can be posted if you want to see it. She is obviously not Tracey Emin or James Dyson but is a definitely worthy of being on this site. Take a look at the silverware she produces www.ekfrancis.com/silverware Look forward to hearing your comments. Thanks for your time. ---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by RogerRoger5 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Orange Mike - Received your comments, and understand what you mean now about having a quote etc making it sound like an advert. Thansk RogerRoger5 (talk) 09:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism reversion on Forehead

Concerning this edit, which part of the edit was reverting vandalism? In this edit, several things seem to have changed at once, including some changes that don't appear to be constructive (ie. removing interwiki links and the {{nofootnotes}} template), so I think it may have been a mistake. I've reverted the entire edit accordingly. Feel free to revert me if I am in error, but please be more descriptive in your edit summary. Thank you! -kotra (talk) 21:41, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Camp Treetops

Could you please restore this article. I'm not done working on it and intend to make sure it doesn't violate any copyrights. Thank you. (JoeTimko (talk) 20:20, 21 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I don't have any conflict of interest and I had only JUST begun to work on the article. Can you please restore it so that I can complete it and resolve your concerns about copyright violations. Thanks. (JoeTimko (talk) 20:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Yes, that's because I've only just begun working on it. Can you give me a chance? (JoeTimko (talk) 20:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoeTimko (talk • contribs)

Can you please retore the article I had just begun working on so I can address your copyright concerns and you POV concerns? I just need some time to add sources and rewrite it. I was just using the camp's website as a starting point.(JoeTimko (talk) 20:38, 21 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

OM, I added some references and I tried to address the copyright concerns. There are lots of articles about schools and businesses and such, so I'm not exactly sure how to address your concerns over it reading like an advertisement. I mean it's not exactly like a hugely controversial subject, but it's notable for its history and its alternative approach which I tried to focus on. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks. (JoeTimko (talk) 22:18, 21 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Deletion by accident

Hi can you please restore my userpage, I put the tepmlate by accident while I wass looking for something else and I didnt have the time to place the hangon template

Thanks

--Maniadis (talk) 20:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Solid PDF Creator

Earlier today you deleted the page for Solid PDF Creator as blatant advertising. Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the page? If not, could I at least get the content back? Thanks for your assistance. Scyon (talk) 20:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

deletion of NetWeaver Developer by Rules of Thumb

Can you please point out what was "blatent advertising?" The material was written to be informative. BTW, I don't work for Rules of Thumb. I just use their software, and I thought it was worthy of mention. Kmreynolds (talk) 22:18, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marlow Machining

Hello, Orangemike ...

Standoff (decorative) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Puck (hardware) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

They both appear to be WP:SPAM to promote this company.

Happy Editing! — 72.75.68.177 (talk · contribs) _{15:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)}[reply]

Done ... Never mind ... Herbythyme (talk · contribs) took care of it, and blocked the user. :-) — 72.75.68.177 (talk) 15:46, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User: Sacs09

Orangemike, I noticed you deleted my wikipedia page on San Antonio Christian School. Im a student from there trying to creat a page on our school. Please let me know how i can keep from getting my page deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacs09 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacs09 (talk • contribs) --Orange Mike | Talk 18:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Starship Troopers

When was the last time you read the book? Because I finished it last night. See my explanation in the Talk page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.187.0.164 (talk) 16:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I now have the book in front of me. The other soldier's name is Bennie (Bernardo). It appears my mistake was because Heinlein has Bennie and Rico speaking in the same paragraph, which isn't conventional. So, I mixed up the order of the characters speaking. You are correct: Rico is Filipino and Bennie is Argentinian. Sorry for the mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.187.0.164 (talk) 16:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mike

As one of the few americans i know on here i was wondering who u are supporting in the election? i guess obama right seeing as u clearly dont like bush much. i guess the fact that obama has an association to ur alma mater is quite cool also. UC is a great uni i wanna go there, maybe u can give me some tips sometime! anyway ciao for now my citrus friend! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.179.51 (talk) 13:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UofC

Wow, seems like you have a strong dislike for the place. However in so far as I am aware that is the point of going to college, you no longer have teachers or parents looking after you but must learn to stand on your own two feet as in the real world. Everyone I have spoken to who attends or attended college says the same. That does not, in my view, take anything away from the standard of the institution as a whole. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.179.51 (talk) 14:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments

thanks for your comments on Talk:Joe_the_Plumber#RFC_on_Joe_the_Plumber_tax_lien_on_house RFC. Nice to get some new blood in the debate. They just protected the article. You may want to add include at the beginning of your comment. Inclusionist (talk) 15:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AGF

Your warning to me on a valid deletion of a claim with a dozen references, where the clearly stated reason for deletion included that number of references, is improper. Thank you. Collect (talk) 15:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scott Fox

this article should be kept due to the fact that he was a real football player at one time and also Lee Academy should not have been deleted due to the fact that it does show school importance. --GrebeBluetoad (talk) 18:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC) Just my opinion. thanks[reply]

Speedy deletion of CT Connect

A tag has been placed on CT Connect, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mike, this identical article was already speedied as spam once. Looks like a probable copy-and-paste to me. I'm assuming you weren't the real original author, but that you restored this for the real one. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"True flavor of spam"? Would that be hickory-smoked Spam, turkey Spam, or reduced-fat Spam? (Sorry, couldn't resist.) :-) - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page Deletion

Mike hello. I see that you deleted the page I created for Tracy Mattes and the reason was blatent advertising. Could you tell me what links or information needs to be removed so that it will not be seen as blatent advertising. Most of the information I gathered were from reliable sources, both individuals, US Olympic Committee, Track & Field News Magazine, Universities, and various news sources. I tried to look at other world class athlete sites and follow suit by backing it up with links and news sources. Again, please advise of what needs to be removed, I will remove it immediately, so I can redo the site. Thank you very much for your guidance and advice here. Again, I am a former Wisconsin Track coach and I tried to follow the guidelines as close as I could. Obviously was way off base.

Also, where do I find your reply? Here or in my talk box? I will check both.

Sorry I forgot to sign, here it is, also don't know if should include name/advertising.

Thank you Librarybookers My talk (Librarybookers (talk) 19:40, 24 October 2008 (UTC)).[reply]

Speedy deletion of Deborah Magid

Dear Mike, My page should be reinstated - which I'm doing now - because I have world-level credits and because I am mentioned in other Wiki pages. Numerous people have Googled me, and asked why I don't appear in the pages of Wikipedia when others with far lower profiles, do, and I am responding to these requests. If you want to call this self-aggrandisement, fine, but to say that my writing is patent nonsense is simply an insult. If my page truly does not meet Wikipedia criteria, fine, but please don't insult me - or yourself - in the process. Kind regards, Deb Magid Smmslt (talk) 19:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion question

This article about The Quiet Ones has been speedied twice and almost immediately recreated. There's still no evidence of notability, but is there a deletion process that can keep this article from being recreated? Flowanda | Talk 20:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

notability of Deborah Magid

The guidelines state: If an article fails to cite sufficient sources to demonstrate the notability of its subject, look for sources yourself, or:

Ask the article's creator or an expert on the subject[7] for advice on where to look for sources.

Put the

tag on the article to alert other editors. To place a dated tag, put a

tag. If the article is about a specialized field, use the

tag with a specific WikiProject to attract editors knowledgeable about that field, who may have access to reliable sources not available online.

The first and third of these criteria have not been observed, and as to the first, it has been asked and answered. Please stop trying to delete the entry about me. Thank you. Smmslt (talk) 20:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC) Thank you for the guidelines (3) and I apologize for making the assumption, since your name appeared to be attached to the original deletion warning, that it was you who had inserted it. I'll look up MisterWiki. As to self-promotion, I placed the article in response to the requests of others who do not have access to creating articles. This feels very Catch-22. Smmslt (talk) 20:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC) Thank you for the guidelines (3) and I apologize for making the assumption, since your name appeared to be attached to the original deletion warning, that it was you who had inserted it. I'll look up MisterWiki. BTW, his original call for deletion used the term _ unsalvageably incoherent_ As to self-promotion, I placed the article in response to the requests of others who do not have access to creating articles. This feels very Catch-22. Smmslt (talk) 20:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smmslt (talk • contribs) [reply]

Tracy Mattes

"her athletic accomplishments, combined with her All-American good looks"? That's an ad, not an article.

Hello Mike. I see exaclty what you mean here. I actually took this quote from a website. Beign a Wisconsinite, I see your point about the big guns, but I must say, she had a heck of Track Career in Wisconsin, is in the Hall of Fame, along side some of those guys, and what is more impressie than her athletic caerres, is what she did off the track, by using her the success she did have as an athlete and the notarity she did gain. Walt Disney doesn't just sponsor a nobody. She was named appointed UN Special Representative and has built "Thank you Small Libraries" in more than 40 countries for kids around the world, has funded many forums and projects relating to sport, peace and develpment, she founded the first International Olympic Training Center in Europe, so athletes have a place to train, sleep, eat and get sports med while they are in Europe competing on the circuts, which will is scheduled to open in Monaco in 2012, and just now is nominated for a Sport Humanitarian Hall of Fame. That is like the Nobel Prize for athletes.

While many of our Wisconsinites were great atheltes, some were just that. I am not undermining that at all. My point is that Tracy was unique in that she goes way beyond just a world class athlete. I wrote the article on her, because although she had in my opinon a great track career, a terrible car accident prevented her from qualifying for the Olympic Games, She was ranked 7th in the world at the time. And I, and many beleive she would have qualified. But the inspiring part is what she did after that,. She could have just felt bad for herself and quit and got a regular job. But since then everything she has done she has excelled at and it has all been trying to help other people. There aren't alot of athletes that have doen what she has done in a combination of on and off the field. I am proud she is a Wisconsinite. I quite frankly am sick of some of reading about some of these over paid, show off athletes with their drugs, sex, drinking and down right lousy image to our children. Who are labeled as having notariaty. I have 4 kids, all aspiring athletes. In fact we are moving back to Oshkosh by the holdiays. I would rather have them look up to someone like Tracy than some of the other examples out there.

Now I would like to re-write an article about Tracy, but take out all the "ad" stuff, I recognize what you are referring to now. And just list her accomplishments as an World Class Athlete/and UN Humanitarian. I will remove any relations to sponsors, adjectives like the ones above, and just put the facts of her accomplishments on and off the field.

If I do that, can I re-submit it? I'll shorten it alot. Please let me know if this would be okay, and if so, where I can locate the original page to revise it all.

Thank you for your patience and guidance here. Librarybookers My talk (Librarybookers (talk) 21:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)).[reply]

Your suggestion

I'd suggest creating a draft article without all the fluffy sentiment and meaningless praise terms, but with solid citations to reliable sources; sandboxes are easy to create, and I'd be glad to go over the draft and offer some sincere (if frank) criticism. Is she a member of the Wisconsin Athletic Hall of Fame? That's the kind of solid data we need. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:34, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your advice. I can see how busy you are with all these messages. I would be so appreciative if you would go over the draft and offer your sincere criticism. I want to create a draft exactly how you describe. I always meant for it to be serious. I didn't mean it to be fluffy, but I did take quotes and paragraphs from sources, which, now that you point it out are a bit fluffy. But I want it to be serious like I intended it to be. Yes she is in the Hall of Fame. And she is on the ballot to be in a much bigger one too. Take a look at those Sport Humanitarian Award Winners. Thats pretty good company. As is the board members of her Olympic Training Center: Sergey Bubka, Prince Albert II of Monaco, Frankie Fredericks, Pernilla Wiberg, Reggie Williams, thats a serious project. I remember watching her in those days back in 1986 & 1987 when she was at Pius in Milwaukee, in her 1st year ever running, she came out of no where at the Metro Conference and State Championships and shattered every hurdle record there was. So I really want it to be serious.

I look forward to your advice. I can't thank you enough for helping me here. I feel like such a schmuck for messing it up. I spent a lot of time and research. But I trust you even more since you are Wisconsinite. You tell it like it is. Well, if we were in Wisconsin I'd buy you a beer, but in virtual land, a simple Thank you will have to do. Seriously though, Thank you.

PS How are you surviving the Packer Season without Favre. Strange isn't it. (Librarybookers (talk) 01:03, 25 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

bottom of page

Sorry about that. Didn't realize it should go at the bottom. Quick question, is the old article accessible somewhere where I can edit it and remove or add things without starting from scratch. There were a lot of references there. Just wondering. (Librarybookers (talk) 11:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Advice

Mike, Here is a new draft. Just facts, no fluff. I didn't elaborate on anything. Tried to seriously show the athelete/UN Humanitarian side. Please review and let me know what you would remove or add, or what could be improved upon. I appreciate your help and guidance with this.

Tracy born December 13, 1969 is an American Track & Field Athlete and United Nations Special Representative. Biography Tracy Mattes was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin to James and Connie Mattes. Tracy began running Track in high school, and attended and competed at Pius XI High School, graduating in 1987. She attended the University of Wisconsin-Madison for three years before transferring to compete for Arizona State University, receiving a Bachelor of Arts degree in Broadcast Journalism in 1992. After college Tracy pursued a world class Track career while working for NBC Television stations WXIA TV 11 Alive for the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta, Georgia; KXAN News 36 in Austin, TX and WFLA News Channel 8 in Tampa, Florida. Deciding to try her hand at a new sport, in 2003 Tracy was invited to the Principality of Monaco to train for the Modern Pentathlon. It was in Monaco where Tracy made a career transition from sport to business. During the 2004 Investors Week in Monte Caro, Tracy presented an award winning business plan to establish an International Olympic Training Center in Monaco, which led to the formation of the company in Monaco to create the center for international athletes. Tracy has promoted Humanitarian causes around the world and in 2005 was appointed Special Representative to the United Nations World Tourism Organization ST-EP Foundation. Tracy attended the International University of Monaco receiving her MBA degree, earning the honor of Valedictorian of her 2006 graduating class, which was presented to her by Monaco’s Sovereign Prince Albert II. Tracy currently resides in Monaco.

Athletic Career Tracy’s track career started when she was a junior at Pius XI High School in Milwaukee, WI. In just her first year competing in the hurdles, as an unknown athlete, Tracy won six straight Wisconsin State Championship Titles, six straight Metro Conference Championship Titles and set State, Conference and competition records around the State.

High school

1987 Gatorade Player of the Year
1987 National Track Athlete of the Year for the State of Wisconsin
Won 6 straight Wisconsin High School State Championship Titles leading Pius IX to win two back to back State Championships in 1986 & 1987
Set Wisconsin State Championship & Conference Hurdle records 1986 & 1987 which still stand today

Collegiate: Accepting a scholarship to the University of Wisconsin-Madison, Tracy was part of the 1990 Big Ten Championship Team. While a Badger, Tracy achieved three NCAA All-American honors, All-Big Ten Honors, Academic All-Big Ten Honors and set University Records in the 100 & 400 meter hurdles, which still stand today. In 1991 Tracy transferred to Arizona State University where she competed her final year of collegiate eligibility. As a Sun Devil, Tracy won two more NCAA All-American honors, Pac 10 Honors, Academic All-Pac 10 Honors and was named NCAA Scholar Athlete of the year, an award in which she shared with former ASU Alumni & pro golfer Phil Michelson. In 1992 Tracy was ranked among the top 10 best hurdlers in the nation and set an Arizona State University record in the 400 hurdles, making her the first NCAA athlete to hold records at two major Division I Universities.

Professional: After graduating from Arizona State University Tracy pursued a professional Track & Field career and earned top ten world and US rankings in the 400 meter hurdles, winning Olympic Festival Medals and International Circuit titles. Tracy competed in the 1996 Olympic Games Track & Field Trials in Atlanta and prior to the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, Tracy was involved in a car accident which resulted in a serious spinal fracture, putting her out of competition for the next few years. Prior to retiring, Tracy won three Olympic Festival medals, her final one on the 4X400 meter relay team with Jackie Joyner Kersee. Being recognized as one of best athletes to come out of the state of Wisconsin, in 2002 Tracy was inducted into the Wisconsin Athletics Hall of Fame, and later that year was also inducted into the Piux XI Sports Hall of Fame. After a brief stint with the Modern Pentathlon, a horse accident motivated Tracy to focus on creating something constructive and useful for other athletes. Tracy retired from sport and turned her focus to creating an Olympic Training Center for international athletes and to finding ways to use her notarity as an athletes to promote humanitarian causes.

Humanitarian Work: Tracy first became personally aware of worldwide humanitarian crises, visiting poverty stricken and rural areas while competing in Africa, where she acquired Malaria. After recovering, Tracy turned to the United States Peace Corps and the United Nations for information on the affects of the disease in severely underdeveloped areas, and her humanitarian work began. In 2005 Tracy her efforts were recognized by the United Nations and she was named Special Representative to the United Nations World Tourism Organization ST-EP Foundation. ST-EP stands for Sustainable Tourism for the Elimination of Povery and targets severely underdeveloped countries. During the past three years Tracy has concentrated her efforts traveling, working, and raising awareness and funding for ST-EP Programs especially focused in Africa which include projects in Tanzania, Ghana, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Zambia, Niger, Senegal, Kenya, Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Gambia. More than 40 small libraries, providing education to locals, now exist in developing countries around the word as a result of this initiative. At the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, Tracy brought together the world’s leading organizations in the areas of Sport, Development and Peace for a Forum to discuss ways to unite common efforts and programs targeting developing countries. During the Olympics, Tracy was invited to the UN Headquarters in Beijing by Mr. William Lemke, UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon’s special advisor on Sport, Development & Peace, to discuss future initiatives that could involve professional athletes and unite Sport and Development as a means for creating peace in areas of conflict. This topic fit into another cause Tracy has become committed too: advocating a resolution of the Darfur crisis. With the humanitarian situation in Sudan worsening Tracy joined a group of professional athletes called Team Darfur. Tracy traveled to China and spoke to world leaders about the need for urgent aid to the millions of refugees and displaced people who had fled fighting in western Sudan's Darfur region. Tracy is planning a six day visit to Sudan and Chad in 2009 to examine the possibility of bringing ST-EP’s library program to the region, as a way to improve the lives of kids in refugee camps. Tracy helped fund and launch the Peace & Sport Organization’s Inaugural Forum, under the patronage of Prince Albert II in Monaco in December of 2007, which is looking for ways to bring sport programs to kids in refugee camps. Tracy also works with Against Malaria, a foundation which raises funds to provide mosquito nets as a means of disease prevention in the areas in the world most affected by Malaria. Tracy’s work with sport and humanitarian causes has taken her to more than 70 countries around the world.

Personal statistics

Height: 5 ft 8 in
Weight: 125 lb

External links

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Project Visitor

The page has been updated to include more sorces and more unbiased information. It is referenced and linked to by the Massively Multiplayer Online Game article as being the first MMOFPS game. The Project Visitor page as well as the 10six page should be undeleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dertoxia (talk • contribs) 20:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Zyvex article

On October 23, 2008 you deleted the Zyvex article, saying it was "blatant advertising". I haven't edited the article in a long while and cannot comment on the state in which you saw the article, causing you to make the decision to delete. I know, however, that it hasn't always been "blatant advertising". Is there any way the article could be restored so that it could be reverted to an earlier, better state? ehn (talk) 23:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mediation

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elinks

you delted the elinks article. are you sure that was advertisment? i don't think so. it would be better if you first signed it as ad... but now it doesn't matter any more... mabdul 0=* 15:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ELinks

I looked at the Google cache of this page, which you speedy deleted as G11. I don't think this was blatant advertising at all. The page's author contacted me on IRC asking why it was deleted. I don't know much about the product, but there might be hope for this article. Think you could undelete it? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, Just wondering if you could tell me the reason why the Pocketbooks (band) page was deleted? I must admit I find Wikipedia very confusing so perhaps I didn't set it up properly? The deletion log states that it doesn't indicate importance or significance of a group/band/company/etc. Can you let me know how important and significant a band has to be before being allowed a Wikipedia page? ;-) Thanks! Emmlpop (talk) 10:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Pocketbooks (band)

Are you able to send me the text of the page you deleted as it took me a long time to research! I would like to try putting the page up again and make it better to avoid deletion, but would be good to have the original text as a reference. Thanks Emmlpop (talk) 12:03, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Electric Pinwheels LLC

Speedy deleted for blatant advertising. Anything in particular? There are numerous other wind turbine manufacturers with their own pages. Thanks ElectricP (talk) 14:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)— ElectricP (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Take a look at this/these

Since you are involved in this sort of thing you might want to take a quick look at Special:Contributions/Tyler.dawson. I added an Afd to Jamie Dawson and as I was doing it I linked back the a band they are involved in, The Thieves, and noticed the Afd for that was gone. I tried to rollback the edits as vandalism on that, and two other articles, but I don't have rollback permission. They also just created Tales From The White Line. It appears User_talk:Tyler.dawson has been warned already about this sort of thing. I can not do much other than start doing reverts but that would put me into an edit war situation if the users past history is any indication. Thanks Soundvisions1 (talk) 15:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]