Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/In review
When placing mottos, please include them in the top of the In Review section instead of the bottom. Thank you.
I saw this on a T-shirt somewhere. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
WTF DTM? (What the fuck does that mean?)
Hope this works out well... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 14:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose iMatthew 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose WP:NOTCENSORED, but still... —La Pianista (T•C•S) 20:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Any ways I can make a point here with a good motto? Any suggestions guys? -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 21:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong oppose — Let's try to avoid using "fuck", please. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- But Wikipedia is not censored. Like I said above, Any ways I can make a point here with a good motto? Any suggestions? -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 22:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a Pokémon test.
Why not? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 14:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose iMatthew 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support Okay, but really dull. It just reiterates what's already in policy, without "hitting it home." —La Pianista (T•C•S) 20:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose due to blandness --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 23:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is a wiki encyclopedia, not a Pokémon test.
How about this? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose — Sorry, but this is rather dull, and doesn't seem like much of a motto. WP:POKEMON is pretty obscure, as well. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Some users don't give a fuck.
It's true. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 14:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose iMatthew 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong oppose Again, WP:NOTCENSORED, but it's still too racy to put on people's userpages. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 20:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Everyone is contributing, even if they don't give a fuck.
Hope that this motto can work... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong oppose — WP:CENSOR, fine, but let's have some common sense. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Then why did you support the motto, "Rules are made to be broken"? I'm sure I know what common sense means. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 21:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Some MOTD users will not appreciate having profanity transcluded onto their page. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 23:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
It's true. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - Not really much of a motto. Matty4123 (T•C•A) 14:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose iMatthew 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Not much of a motto, doesn't reflect the crux of Wikipedia's philosophy - plus, though it is true, I don't like the fact that we're associating Wikipedia with a social networking site in a motto. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 20:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Don't really think this is gonna work, but... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose — Sorry, this doesn't even seem like a motto to me. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Hope this works... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 14:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose iMatthew 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support: It's okay, but would need some more "out-of-the-norm" to get my full support. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 20:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose — It's not terrible, but then again, it's not very good. The link doesn't really make sense. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Can you think of a better link, since this can actually make it with new links. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 21:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)- Suggestion - → One, two, three, four, tell us what you're looking for. 81.129.48.77 (talk) 23:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I really don't know how these go in my brain... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:31, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 14:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose iMatthew 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose — Sorry, but it's rather dull. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
→ Things aren't always what they seem.
Was just thinking about adding some random quote to see if it can pass for MOTD. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 14:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose been used before. iMatthew 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Oddly, a search through the archives turns up nothing. Does sound familiar, though. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 20:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think IMatthew doesn't like my suggestions, that's all. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 21:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)- Sorry, I just think you submitted a very bad batch. iMatthew 21:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- I just think that you should've just told me why you hated them, so that I can fix the problem. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 21:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- I just think that you should've just told me why you hated them, so that I can fix the problem. -- SRE.K.A
- Sorry, I just think you submitted a very bad batch. iMatthew 21:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Oppose — it implies that it's normal to violate WP:AGF. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- How about this? -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 21:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)- Better. Support with the changes. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional support with changes, if it hasn't been used before. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 23:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support if not done before --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 23:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- See September 19, 2008 - it's been used. iMatthew 23:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
IAR - (ironically the first rule to be initiated on Nupedia ) Flewis(talk) 05:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Very similar to mine. :) —La Pianista (T•C•S) 05:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support — Seems to be good enough. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support iMatthew 19:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support: it sounds like a good motto. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Quick question - is it "Rules were made to be broken" or "Rules are made to be broken"? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 23:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
-My 2 cents at comparing the economic crisis with Afd . . . --Flewis(talk) 13:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - meh. I don't really get it. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - would be better with different links. A little too obscure as it stands. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 00:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Suggestions - See suggestion 1 and 2 - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 18:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
→ Only shop because you have to, not because you want to
Suggestion 1 - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 18:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support Matty's first suggestion. iMatthew 19:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Boo-yah support: Great motto! —La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:11, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Suggestion 2 - Matty4123 (T•C•A) 18:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose: Suggestion 1 is better. BTW, what's with the question mark? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Just Wiki it
- Weak support - Erm, who submitted this? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 05:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - Not very good... Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Neutral — I'm not even sure of what it's trying to say. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong oppose - who says that? iMatthew 19:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Meh. BTW, this was submitted by an IP address, and i'm guessing its supposed to be a take on the Nike slogan, Just Do It Matty4123 (T•C•A) 22:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
→ To do a common thing uncommonly well brings success
NOTICE: This motto and the one below it are two link choices to the same saying (I cannot figure out which one to do!). I guess you can pick the one to use per consensus. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Don't like the linking. Elucidate (light up) 19:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
→ To do a common thing uncommonly well brings success
Choice 2. (See Above) Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support: I prefer this one. It's more original. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:29, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - The links in the second one are much better, and I think it is quite clever. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support Much better. Very nice. Elucidate (light up) 19:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support iMatthew 19:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support: it's good enough. Comment. How about: “To do a common thing/common thing uncommonly well/uncommonly well brings success/success”? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose pjoef's links. I like this motto mainly because it talks about Wikipedia itself. Mottos centered on the road to WP:FA have gotten way too trite around here. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
It's not the singer, it's the song.
I was trying to find a somewhat more PG version of "It's not the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean," and found this phrase. [ roux ] [x] 23:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: How about "It's not the singer, it's the song."? I'm not sure about this, either...any ideas? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 23:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm.. that could work. Mostly I wanted to draw some attention to the ideas behind PERFECT. [ roux ] [x] 23:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- In case anyone is thinking this, I believe that maintaining the last link and changing the first to "WP:EDIANS" is a bad idea - it could be seen as a slant on Wikipedians ourselves. Just my two cents. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 23:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - upon thinking further, I think it really needs to link to PERFECT; the song (article) is what the singer (editor) produces. [ roux ] [x] 06:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support for "It's not the singer, it's the song.", per La Pianista. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose that; it doesn't fit the meaning of the phrase. [ roux ] [x] 19:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support the second version. Elucidate (light up) 19:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Okay, I guess I'm not being clear. "It's not the singer, it's the song" means "It's not about the individual person, it's about the final product." CONS is a means to an end, not the final product. [ roux ] [x] 20:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Response to comment: So...if a motto needs clarification, do you think it's fit? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 00:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't think it needed clarification? The meaning of the quote is pretty clear. [ roux ] [x] 01:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hm. Upon further thinking, I suppose you're right. But my vote is Weak support as it stands - I would still prefer the WP:CONS version. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support iMatthew 19:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
→ I will not let the sky be the limit when there are footprints on the moon.
Saw it on Facebook and immediately thought of a Wikipedia motto. I'm not too happy with the links, though; anybody have better ones? Trvsdrlng (talk) 05:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- What's wrong with them? I'd leave and support as is (I'm not sure about if "sky be the limit" linked to special:Contributions instead) Simply south (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Simply South's link. We need something more specific. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 01:38, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - It seems like a good motto, but La Pianista's right, we need more specific links... I just can't think of any... brain turned to mush from election coverage overload... Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- How about "I will not let the sky be the limit when there are footprints on the moon"? iMatthew 19:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if there's a better alternative for the 4th link, but if you can come up with one, tell me. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support per WP:WTHN. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support as is, but if you want a new link for "hold on," try linking to the Wikipedia Inclusionism page on Metawiki which my poor, mush addled brain can't remember how to find right now. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:44, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Well, won't those danged deletionists have a problem with that? Otherwise, excellent suggestion. The link, for reference, is m:inclusionism. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 00:09, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support Whoah! Great motto. I like. Elucidate (light up) 19:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
One thing we all adore, something worth fighting for
Nothing but pain, stuck in this game
Searching for fortune and fame
Another from Tupac. This one's from one of his song.Matty4123 (T•C) 20:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support It's a nice motto, but I wouldn't say editors are "stuck" here. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose per Julian. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 05:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - It's a little meandering. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - too long & per Julian. [ roux ] [x] 06:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - what about: One thing we all adore, something worth fighting for ? [ roux ] [x] 06:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support for Roux's suggestion. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support for Roux's suggestion. Meh. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Choice 1 - Matty4123 (T•C) 20:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support: It's always good to draw attention to the CVU. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 01:40, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - Always good to remember the thin blue line from time to time. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support Catchy, nice way of emphasizing CVU. IceUnshattered [ t ] 00:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support [ roux ] [x] 06:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support. We get a lot of mottos about vandalism here, but somehow the links seem really original! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 13:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support — looks good. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:42, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Choice 2 - Two different versions. Not really sure about the links though. Matty4123 (T•C) 20:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - The other links are better. Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Template motto trial
The following is a Wikipedian. They may still be in development, under discussion, or in the process of gathering consensus for adoption. |
Seeing as this may be placed on a Wikipedian's userpage, i thought i might try it. It is a variation on {{proposal}}. Simply south (talk) 11:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't get it. How are we supposed to use it? Is it a template motto or something else? Chamal talk 12:09, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yes it is a template motto. I altered the wording. Simply south (talk) 12:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I don't think the line Thus references or links to this page should not describe it as "policy" is appropriate here. It's used in {{proposal}} since it's a template used on proposed policy pages. But putting that on a user page might look weird. Chamal talk 12:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, i just deleted it now. How does it look? I've also clarified the title. Simply south (talk) 12:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - I don't like the template motto idea. They look rediculous. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong oppose per above. Sorry, but we're looking for mottoes, not templates. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:39, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose: Templates can be a very refreshing way to convey a motto, but this one in particular is a bit too "in-your-face," for lack of a better word. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 05:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
How's this? ~AH1(TCU) 23:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - The links don't feel right. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support — Not my favorite, but it'll do. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
—Ceranthor(Sing) 02:00, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support: John Lennon reference. Dendodge|TalkContribs 11:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: How about we extend it, to be "Imagine all the people (<br>) living in harmony" or Imagine all the people (<br>) living in harmony"? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support It's good enough, I suppose. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support of La Pianista's first recomendation. Looks better with the extension. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Support. Good motto, but both the extended versions by La Pianista are better. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Imagine all the people
living in harmony
Edit 1 per Nutiketaiel, Pjoef, and I. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 00:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support: The FA link doesn't seem too good to me, in this context. Otherwise fine. Chamal talk 12:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support per my above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:58, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support — much better. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support - excellent. [ roux ] [x] 06:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support ~ A very good motto. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:31, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism is easy, but contributing positively to Wikipedia is more rewarding. Also, I think I heard this line from the upcomming Harry Potter movie trailer. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support: I think we have heard about the 'choosing' far too often. But it's OK I guess, as long something very similar hasn't been used before. Chamal talk work 11:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support assuming it hasn't been used allready. Nothing wrong with it, i suppose; just a little boring. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Vandalism-fighting is just as important to Wikipedia as writing articles. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Response: Wait, you've got it all wrong! What I meant for this motto to say is that it's easy to vandalize Wikipedia, but in order to do the right thing, you should contribute positively. I never said that vandalism-fighting is bad (and it isn't!). Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Nothing is impossible. Some things are just less likely than others.
Matty4123 (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - I like the quote, but it needs links to tie it to Wikipedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - Yes, please add links! —La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional support - Good motto, irrelevant link; I will support if the linking is improved. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:41, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose The link doesn't make much sense. Nice motto otherwise. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - link supposed to show people that nothing is impossible in wikipedia. suggestions for links? - Matty4123 (talk) 20:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Support: If UberScienceNerd's suggestion is used. Chamal talk work 12:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Support with UberScienceNerd's link suggestion. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Edit 1. Changed links to those suggested Matty4123 (talk) 13:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support with these links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - First link is great, but the second one doesn't click with me. Call me weird. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:52, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Per my comment above. Chamal talk 12:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
OK, did I do a good link this time? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 00:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Irrelevant to Wikipedia. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Assuming that this one has not been done before, I would be OK with it if it had wikipedia related links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps if "Mind what you have learned" was linked to WP:ADOPT and "Save you it can" to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship? Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Support: If links suggested by Nutiketaiel are used. Please try to use links related to Wikipedia in your mottos. That is, usually something in WP:Wikipedia namespace. No more star wars links!!! :) Chamal talk work 15:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Edit 1. Changed the links to be Wikipedia related instead of Star Wars related. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Support - That's right, I only support my own edit if this quote hasn't been used previously, per my Infinite Monkey Policy. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Ya know, I was going use the exact same links. :D But add a little → at the beginning to maintain the reference, however trite. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Good idea. ~AH1(TCU) 23:18, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Added little arrow thingy per La Pianista. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Hate to go with a Yoda quote, but I found this one catchy.--LAAFansign review 17:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support: It's okay, but a little trite. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - Far too trite. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- I would only Support if this is changed to, "Be aware of the dark side". -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 22:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- I would only Support if this is changed to, "Be aware of the dark side". -- SRE.K.A
- Conditional support: I agree with SRE.K.A.L.24's proposal. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 00:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support if changed as SRE.K.A.L.24 suggested. It's a bit boring the way it is now, hearing it all the time. Chamal talk work 00:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Weak Support with suggested changes, and ONLY if it has never been used before. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Weak Support per Nutiketaiel. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Per above--LAAFansign review 16:58, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Good idea. ~AH1(TCU) 23:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Weak Support assuming it hasn't been used before, as above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Weak Support as per above. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 14:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps "the red side"? Also, can someone think of a link for "Be aware"? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Relisted —La Pianista (T•C•S) 16:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Suggestion - Maybe link "Be Aware" to "Wikipedia:List of cabals"? Nutiketaiel (talk) 20:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Bingo! TINC. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:00, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - I withdraw my support for the other version. It's nice to have a change from mottos that just refer to vandalism, and it's good to remind people that Wikipedia:Humor exists. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:17, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
We've been through ups and we've been through downs, but that's what makes the world go 'round.
This could work...but that's for you to decide. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 17:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Great, but I would like the second link to be changed to WP:WOW. Then, this will have my Support. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
We've been through ups and we've been through downs, but that's what makes the world go 'round
Edit 1. Per La Pianista's comment. I like it better this way too. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 15:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Clever, and well linked. Chamal talk 12:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Very good links fo rthis one. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a motto that will relate directly to the Wikipedians. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 17:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support + cmt: Really great morale-boost. But I would like the first link to change to Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not just an encyclopedia —La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support: The motto is excellent. I think it'd be best to link "This is what we're made of" to WP: PILLARS if La Pianista's suggestion is implemented. Chamal talk 14:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - I like the original text, but I would not have a problem with the suggestions of La Pianista or Chamal. Personally, though, i think it's fine the way it is. The pillars define the basic purpose and policy of Wikipedia- who we are. The userpage is indicitive of the individual Wikipedian- what we're made up of. The contributions are, of course, what we do. I'm perfectly fine with it as written. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support as written. Trvsdrlng (talk) 05:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support Like it, but also strongly recommend Chamal's suggestion. IceUnshattered [ t ] 20:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Support/comment/suggestion: If this motto is related to Wikipedians the first link should be: Wikipedia:Wikipedians (Wikipedia:Wikipedians → Special:MyPage → Special:MyContributions). If it is related to Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not just an encyclopedia → WP:PILLARS or Special:Statistics → Wikipedia:Featured articles. –pjoef (talk • contribs)
>>Flewis(talk) 11:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Isn't it "Only dead fish follow the stream"? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 16:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Not the most 'striking' motto, but I like it. Chamal talk 14:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support w/ Comment. It's not bad, it's just that the whole concept of Wikipedia Bold-ness (in my opinion) is way overused in MOTDs. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:56, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - I don't have a problem with frequently referring to Boldness in mottos, since it is so important to what we do here. I'm just not that keen about comparing Wikipedians who maybe aren't so bold with dead fish... Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
→ I took the survey, and I liked it.
~AH1(TCU) 22:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Motto_of_the_day/Schedule#September. This mottos has already been used last month (with one word changed). Simply south (talk) 23:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong oppose per above reason. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 03:49, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose iMatthew (talk) 21:39, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose: No need to do something very similar, even if the links are different. Chamal talk 14:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - We should not be reusing mottos, per the MOTD Infinite Monkey Policy. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:08, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia: Technology for Better Living.
~AH1(TCU) 22:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. Uber-boring, sorry. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 03:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose: Don't like the link, somehow. It's like an ad, telling people to join because we are so good. I know this sounds stupid, but I can't think of anything better to express my feelings about this one. Chamal talk 14:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support - I like the motto; I think it's clever. I think the essay at the other end could be more well written, but I have no problem with the motto itself. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support + suggestion: How about: “Wikipedia/Wikipedia: Technology/Technology for Better Living”? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Has this been used before, or is it too late for that (should have been a special nomination etc)? ~AH1(TCU) 22:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Now's a great time to change the first link to WP:SISTER. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 02:40, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Eh — I'm not sure I have an opinion either way. Leaning towards oppose, as it just doesn't seem very interesting. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support: It's OK I guess. A bit boring though. Are you sure this hasn't been used before BTW? Chamal talk 14:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Weak Support of La Pianista's suggested links, assuming that the motto hasn't been used before. It's boring, but it is nice to remind people about the sister projects. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:11, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support 2008 Olympic motto! “Citius, Altius, Fortius” ("Swifter, Higher, Stronger") (^_^)! I like the links as they are. An alternative for the second link is: meta:Three-year_plan. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a great quote from Alexander Graham Bell (hence the arrow-link). The original quote was actually "When one door closes, another opens", not "When one door closes, another door opens", but I hope that's not a problem. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:20, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose — First of all, I'm not sure why we have to alter the motto from its original quote. That aside, when an article is deleted via AfD, it shouldn't be opened/re-created. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:32, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose per Julian. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 03:56, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose: Per Julian. It's a good motto, can't we change the links somehow and use it? Chamal talk 12:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose per Julian. I would only support changing the links and recycling the proposal if the quote is restored to the original form; what was the purpose of changing it in the first place? Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
→ The best teamwork comes from men who are working independently toward one goal in unison
In my opinion, we don't get nearly enough mottos about the entire Wikimedia Foundation, so here's one. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Conditional Support: If "men" is changed to "people". But its a good message otherwise SpitfireTally-ho! 20:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: The message is great, but the links aren't really connected well enough for me. I would suggest a different motto if you want to endorse the entire foundation. As it stands, I think the motto would be improved by changing the last link to WP:CONS. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - I like it, and I think the links are quite well connected to each other and to the flow of the quote. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
→ The best teamwork comes from people who are working independently toward one goal in unison
Edit 1. Per Spitfire's comment above. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Response to La Pianista's Comment: You see, I'm hesitant to change the last link to WP: CON, because I nominated a motto centering around the idea of a Wikipedia consensus earlier this month, and I really don't want to repeat myself with this motto. I'm going to let this stay as it is here for a while, and if there are a substantial amount of opposes, I'll see if I can change it. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support — I really like the motto, but the last link seems like it could be improved. Link to WP:FA, perhaps? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - We should not change it from the original quote. As a Feminist, I think that we should not be altering others words because of an absurd manufactured controversy that distracts attention from legitimate gender equality issues. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Wow, that came off as alot ruder than I intended it. I apologize if I offended anybody; I wasn't feeling very well that day. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
→ The best teamwork comes from men who are working independently toward one goal in unison
Edit 2. Per Nutiketaiel's and Juliancolton's comments above. Boy, this motto really needs alterations!
- Strong Support - Per both my above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - Much better now. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
→ Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps, down new roads, armed with nothing but their own vision
Hope its not too dull. Chamal talk 13:59, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - It pains me to get behind anything that Ayn Rand ever said, but it is a good quote with excellent links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support — Very clever. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: How about adding the link "Throughout the centuries,..."? —La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support, with addition. ~AH1(TCU) 21:51, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
→ Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps, down new roads, armed with nothing but their own vision
Edit 1 Added link suggested by La Pianista. Chamal talk 03:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support per me. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 03:47, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support. There's a lot to be said here, but it all seems to work. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support - but I'm going to now go wash my hands thoroughly, because I have twice endorsed the words of Ayn Rand. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
The miracle is not to fly in the air, or to walk on the water, but to walk on the earth.
Read it in a book. It said it was a chinese proverb, but I don't know the original version. Anyway, I thought it shows the value of contributions. Chamal talk 13:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support: very nice, a good message, as you say, it reflects that, although yes, FAs and Admins are good things, what wikipedia is built on is the edits of "normal" users SpitfireTally-ho! 14:02, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - Yes, that is an excellent motto, and I very much like the sentiment. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support, per above. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support: Excellent idea. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Great idea. ~AH1(TCU) 21:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - I like it Matty4123 (T•C) 22:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Edit one - added link to WP:BOLD. iMatthew (talk) 01:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support, that's right. Simply south (talk) 17:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support (but stronger than the weak support I gave the other one; we'll call this Weak Support+) - It is better with this link instead of none at all, but the link isn't very imaginative... Nutiketaiel (talk)
- Almost-Full Support - per Nutiketaiel. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support. It's okay...just not great. The link is still kind of dull. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support Pretty good. QAE 23:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support — There's nothing wrong with it, per se. "Meh" applies here. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support: Per above comments. Chamal talk 00:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
From M.I.A.'s Paper Planes (song). -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 01:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - Nothing wrong with it, I guess, it just doesn't really pop out at me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Neutral per above. The first half is actually quite good, but the second link killed it... –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Can you think of another link that can replace the second? -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 18:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. I actually like the second half. There are other ways you can link it, though, like maybe "get high like planes", or "get high like planes"...but I think it's fine the way it is! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 14:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support Artichoke-boy's first link. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia
In
Knowledge
In
People
Easy
Daring
Informational
Art
From an anon's sandbox edit. Any further modifications are greatly welcomed. :) —La Pianista (T•C•S•R) 02:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. A nice idea, but I suggest you make a few changes. The first I could stand for Inventive(?) and the second for Interesting(?), also the K could stand for Knowledgeable and opposed to just Knowledge. Just a few points, feel free to ignore or take them on. Blooded Edge Sign/Talk 17:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia
Inventive
Knowledgeable
Interesting
People
Easy
Daring
Informational
Art
Edit 1, per Blooded Edge's concerns. —La Pianista (T•C•S•R) 19:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - It's OK, I guess. Maybe good for a slow news day. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Maybe Art would be better as Artistic, but I like this either way :). Blooded Edge☆ 12:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support. It's original...but I just don't get the "Art" reference. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:42, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia
Inventive
Knowledgeable
Interactive
Popular
Easy
Daring
Informative
Academic
Edit 2. Different words. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 20:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. I like this one better for some reason...maybe it's the "Interactive" and "Academic" references. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 14:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
- Medium Support - It's better than the last version, but I'm still not a huge fan. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
All Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Opposed. I don't like the motto's style. QAE 00:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support Clever and witty!--Spittlespat 23:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
→ Don't fear the reaper.
Based on the song of the same name --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 16:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Won't it look like we are inviting people to be bold and create articles of unencyclopedic nature? Chamal Talk ± 13:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Good point. Would WP:NPA be more suitable for "reaper", or perhaps just linking the entire motto to WP:BOLD? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 16:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support the WP:BOLD link. Chamal talk work 15:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- Good point. Would WP:NPA be more suitable for "reaper", or perhaps just linking the entire motto to WP:BOLD? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 16:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose As it is, it implies that we want people to nominate more AfDs. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - With UberScienceNerd's suggestion of linking the entire quote to WP:BOLD. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Edit 1. Per UberScienceNerd's and Nutiketaiel's suggestion QAE 00:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. QAE 00:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support per above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support: This version is better, as I mentioned above. Chamal talk 12:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Assuming it hasn't been used yet. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Looks good. Sunderland06 (talk) 15:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - a bit cliché, but not bad. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Good idea overall, but I'm thinking the quote is "even if you miss", and also the fact is you can't land among stars :P . ~AH1(TCU) 21:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Nice one. Chamal talk 12:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Look. Cover. Write. Check.
Choice 1
Choice 2
Choice 3
3 alternatives listed above. I'm not sure what to add for Cover though. An old phrase for doing work. Simply south (talk) 18:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - How about Look. Cover. Write. Check.? Matty4123 (talk) 18:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Looks good. Perhaps add it as another alternative. Now i think the trouble is that there are so many possibilities with this one. Btw, i've corrected at least my third option so it shows the action of doing. Simply south (talk) 18:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: I like the 2nd one, maybe with WP:V as link for cover. Chamal talk 13:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Like that? Simply south (talk) 13:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - I don't really like the motto. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose — Nutiketaiel said it best. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. Well, I don't know if this violates WP:UGH, but it just doesn't sparkle for me. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I think WP:UGH is meant specifically to refer to article deletion discussions. I think we're allowed to be a little subjective with MotD. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Too long and not so good.--Spittlespat ALIENS 22:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? It is only four words. Btw, is everyone opposing to all of the first three choices? Simply south (talk) 17:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- I'm opposing all four choices. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? It is only four words. Btw, is everyone opposing to all of the first three choices? Simply south (talk) 17:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Like La Pianista said, it just doesn't sparkle. QAE 00:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Choice 4 of Look. Cover. Write. Check. - Matty4123 (talk) 18:59, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Weaksupport -mostlygood,but"Check"may be betterlinked to WP:PR --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Done - Matty4123 (talk) 19:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Still don't like it. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Like La Pianista said, it just doesn't sparkle. QAE 00:09, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose--Spittlespat 23:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose I just checked my 6th Class spelling book, and that's exactly, word for word, written on the cover. TopGearFreak Talk 17:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Hope it's good or hope anyone can make a copyedit for this. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 02:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - It's OK, I guess. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support Not the best, not the worst... –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support. Okay. It's kind of long and meandering, but good enough to be accepted. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
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- weak support --88wolfmaster (talk) 21:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
--LAAFansign review 02:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support Seems good. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Support - I like it, but the WP:FA link should only be attached to the word "great," not the word "nothing," IMHO. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Well, it's true. Chamal Talk ± 14:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Conditional Support as per Nutiketaiel. --88wolfmaster (talk) 21:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Edit 1. Per Nutiketaiel and 88wolfmaster. QAE 23:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - good links. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support as above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
--Spittlespat! ǀ T ♦ C ♦ S 23:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I think it's pretty good, but I think the wikilinks should be different. I'm not sure what that best links would be, I'd have to give it some more thought. Useight (talk) 15:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: The link should be something related to Wikipedia. That is, usually something in the Wikipedia namespace. Anyway, I suggest something like "Two wrongs don't make a right". That's the best I can think of right now. Chamal Talk ± 15:55, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support with links by Chamal. Trvsdrlng (talk) 16:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- I, too, like the links Chamal provided. Useight (talk) 21:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support the links by Chamal. The original isn't very good. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Has something like this been used before? It looks oddly familiar... —La Pianista (T•C•S•R) 01:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- I checked the archives (that is why i found the special xmas nom) to find this and could not. So either it hasn't been archived or it was never done. Simply south (talk) 20:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
==== Three wrongs don't make a right! ====
My spin. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 16:53, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support- Pretty good, but not the best!--Spittlespat! ǀ T ♦ C ♦ S 17:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - This one is pretty funny. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
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Been done before: Wikipedia:Motto_of_the_day/October_19,_2008: Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 19, 2008--88wolfmaster (talk) 21:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Withdrawn. Withdrawn by submitter. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
→ In Soviet Wikipedia, you don't own article...
...Article own you!
Something for kicks and giggles. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support: In soviet russia, you don't give support, support get you. Chamal talk 00:59, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support; heh heh! wonderful! mathwhiz29 03:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support --88wolfmaster (talk) 07:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose! Believing that an article has an owner is a common mistake people make on Wikipedia. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: But that's what it says, isn't it? That you don't own articles. Chamal talk 13:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment ~ It says that in Soviet Wikipedia you don't own articles, but we all know that in Wikipedia it's the same. So, there is no difference between Soviet Wikipedia and Wikipedia, and they seem to be the same thing. Do you want to add Soviet Wikipedia link to that??? IMHO, both links work fine but the message is ambiguous. If we remove the word Soviet from the first line, it will be ambiguous again because it gives the impression that Wikipedia makes wikipedians addicted. These are the reasons why I do not support this motto. Anyway, a good joke but not a good motto. "Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno" ("One for all, all for one") is a motto. Sorry, it's just my opinion. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: But that's what it says, isn't it? That you don't own articles. Chamal talk 13:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Super Strong Support - It's great!!!!! Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry for this. Weak Oppose - FUI. Also see Wikipedia:Motto_of_the_day/Nominations/Archive_2. Simply south (talk) 16:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Wellllllllll... it's undoubtedly similiar to the previously used example you cite, but its not identical. I think the reference to article ownership rather than simple editing makes this one different enough to be worth using. I stand by my Super Strong Support. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- I like this, it's witty and makes sense. Strong Support. Malpass93 (talk) 18:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support. LOL!! ~AH1(TCU) 21:56, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak, late, support Funny enough. IceUnshattered [ t ] 21:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
It is important to know all the rules so that you can break them.
A phrase my piano teach has often quoted - first saw it outside his office. :) —La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - sorry but it implies that what the message says, it may also imply that not following policy, which to some means a bad thing..... Simply south (talk) 22:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose: Doesn't give the idea how WP:IAR is done. It'll look like you can ignore whatever you want, whenever you want. Chamal talk 01:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, but I like the idea...mathwhiz29 03:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- oppose --88wolfmaster (talk) 07:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - This is my personal philosophy, and it applies very well to Wikipedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose. A good idea, but it uses WP:IAR incorrectly. QAE 23:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - No, this is a perfect use of WP:IAR. If you know the rules, you know when its right to break/ignore them, that is, when ignoring them would be for the good of Wikipedia. That's what IAR is all about. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I like this quote a lot but I can't figure out appropriate links for it. any suggestions or is it just a lost cause? --88wolfmaster (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm...I'm trying to think of how to link this without it seeming anti-Wikipedia. What about "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" as sort of a twist on the quote's original meaning? I'll let you know if I think of anything else. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe: →Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. --88wolfmaster (talk) 07:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, I like that one (why didn't I think of that?). My vote would be support if the above links are put in. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support new links and its quite funny. Simply south (talk) 21:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Weak support linksOppose (Changed per below). I'm generally opposed to links that lack a WP prefix. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 23:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. “An analysis of the history of technology shows that technological change is exponential, contrary to the common-sense "intuitive linear" view. So we won't experience 100 years of progress in the 21st century -- it will be more like 20,000 years of progress (at today's rate). The "returns," such as chip speed and cost-effectiveness, also increase exponentially. There's even exponential growth in the rate of exponential growth. Within a few decades, machine intelligence will surpass human intelligence, leading to The Singularity -- technological change so rapid and profound it represents a rupture in the fabric of human history. The implications include the merger of biological and nonbiological intelligence, immortal software-based humans, and ultra-high levels of intelligence that expand outward in the universe at the speed of light.” Ray Kurzweil, The Law of Accelerating Returns, Published on KurzweilAI.net (March 7, 2001) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- What an interesting opposition reason! Simply south (talk) 13:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- awe come on I'm a huge geek but even so I see what Picasso meant in this computers can not think (yet anyway) they lack imagination and can only do what they are programmed/told to do. Similarly normal encyclopedias/dictionaries can only give you answers/definitions while wikipedia is a great primary reference point allowing users to gain an overview and in some well written FA extensive knowledge in a specific subject matter BUT go beyond that by providing links, references, near real time updating, etc. In short, a computers are far behind the capabilities of the human brain for a simple lack of imagination just like wikipedia is not just a dictionary and that my defense for this quote. --88wolfmaster (talk) 03:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I can understand what Picasso means, as well - art leaves the imagination open to questions that have no answer (or, even better, give rise to new ones). He, of course, was the one that spawned the puzzling question of whether "art imitates life or life imitates art." Wikipedia does have a highly philosophical undertone to its workings whether we like it or not - the "sum of human knowledge" is simply inspiring to any pensive thinker... However, what probably hasn't yet been noticed about this quote is that this encyclopedia is often reached via computers, hence some could see it as a negative slant on Wikipedia itself. :) —La Pianista (T•C•S) 03:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - I don't like the quote, and I don't like the links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Matty4123 (talk) 16:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- weak support i've seen a lot of vandalism quotes --88wolfmaster (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. I like what it has to say (this motto actually looked Anti-Wikipedia at first glance, though!). Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:03, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support: It's OK, but then again, it looks like vandals are making Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chamal_N (talk • contribs)
- Oppose per the unsigned comment above. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 03:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oh crap!! That was me. Chamal talk 03:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- weak oppose--88wolfmaster (talk) 07:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - So... too many vandals is bad, but a few is OK? Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
This motto is created mostly for laughs...but it is true! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:15, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support Nothing wrong with it, per se; it just doesn't pop out at me. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support Yeah, true enough. Not the catchiest though. Chamal talk 15:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - Can't say I like this one very much. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- From Katy Perry's song "Hot N' Cold". iMatthew (talk) 20:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment, oh: Very cute. But change the arrow link to Hot N Cold, to be specific. After that, this'll have my Support. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Done. iMatthew (talk) 11:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support I've never heard of it, but it seems to be good enough. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support: I like the sound of it. Chamal talk 15:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Catchy. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:01, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - I like it! QAE 23:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
An article's potential is very important in Wikipedia! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support i like the links. This would work. However, this may also work as Only you can give them a chance to shine - btw, im not sure what to link to shine here. Simply south (talk) 20:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Follow Simply south's links, but add WP:RFAS to "Shine." —La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Edit 1. Requested links by Simply south and La Pianista. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 01:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support Hah, very clever. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support per me. :D —La Pianista (T•C•S) 14:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- I certain i can' support myself. Simply south (talk) 14:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Good enough. Chamal talk 15:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- support --88wolfmaster (talk) 19:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. I think that this is a good motto. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - This is an excellent sentiment. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - Very good! I like this more than the original because Wikipedians themselves aren't linked to in mottoes much QAE 23:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Great idea, but I think the original is good too. ~AH1(TCU) 22:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Hopefully not FUI. Simply south (talk) 22:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - I like this one, assuming it hasn't been done before. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose WP:FFA implies that you have already succeeded. Also, I don't think "and" is part of the phrase. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone
- I've found a much more suitable link (shame there was no Wikipedia page). Also, i am certain the "and" is in the phrase. Simply south (talk) 10:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Another good one. Chamal talk 15:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Good motto. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
→A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step
Every accomplishment has humble beginnings. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - I really like this one. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support — nice one. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional Strong Support - I support it ONLY if you alter the quote to make it accurate- "A journey of a thousand li starts with a single step." A li is a chinese unit of measurement (about 1/2 a kilometer). Additionally, it was Laozi, not Confucius; it's from the Tao Te Ching. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
→A journey of a thousand li starts with a single step
Edit 1. Changed the quote for accuracy ("miles" were unheard of in China at this time; they had their own units of measurement, like the li) and correctly attributed it to Laozi, not Confucius. See q:Laozi. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support - That's better. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Response: Thanks for your corrections Nutiketaiel...I like things better when they're accurate too! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - moving support here. How comical it would be if we, as encyclopedia, were to make that anachronism. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support: But I'm not sure if everyone knows what Li is. Chamal talk 15:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's a common enough saying that I think they'll get the point. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Besides, anyone can look that up - we're Wikipedia. ;) —La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, see? Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Besides, anyone can look that up - we're Wikipedia. ;) —La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's a common enough saying that I think they'll get the point. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Good one. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
→Great works are performed, not by strength, but by perseverance.
Matty4123 (talk) 14:50, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support A classic- what can you say? Alex Jackl (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Excellent quote, and good link selection. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support Excellent motto. `–Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Simple, precise, to-the-point, a good message...how can I say no? Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Someone clever, please come up with something for the "strength" link. Then, it will have my strong support. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
*Comment what about, Great works are performed, not by strength, but by perseverance. Matty4123 (talk) 13:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Matty4123's links. Vandalism shouldn't be seen as a form of strength. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 14:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- Link Suggestion - How about linking "Strength" to WP:EDITCOUNT, implying that it is not the quantity of the edits that matters, but the quality? Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Good motto. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
→Great works are performed, not by strength, but by perseverance.
Edit 1 per Nutiketaiel's ingenious link. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- The Strongest Support in the History of Mankind - How could I give anything else? She called me "ingenious." :-) Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Good idea. ~AH1(TCU) 22:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Stronger Support than my "Support" above. Even better than the first due to the added link. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 13:30, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
→An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
Matty4123 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support ANother classic - a sure bet. Alex Jackl (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - But did he actually say that for certain? I heard that the line was just made up for the movie... well, no matter, excellent motto anyway. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support Links are interesting, the motto is clever, it's not a Star Wars or Simpsons quote; support. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support. One of my favorite quotes of all time...and a great MOTD. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support - I love Ghandi. :) —La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support! GREAT QUOTE!!! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Quote from Grand Theft Auto IV - Matty4123 (talk) 19:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support - funnyish. Simply south (talk) 22:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose DOn't really see the value... Alex Jackl (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - It's OK, I guess. Maybe on a slow news day. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Neutral Per above. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weakish Support. Good for a chuckle. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Matty4123 (talk) 17:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Approve Wher eis this form? Is this like the Bukaroo Bonzai quote: "Wherever you go, there you are!" That is a little more peppy and interesting in my opinion... Alex Jackl (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support - AJack1 is right, it does sound like a cumbersome paraphrasing of another quote. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Support Seems fine to me. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support per Ajackl and Nutik. Needs spice. —La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I hope this works. Simply south (talk) 16:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Jealous Support.It does work, and I really like the links and the message as to what you can do to be graceful and powerful in Wikipedia. I had an idea to do a MODT with this exact quote, though! Darn. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. Wait a minute...this quote in incorrect. The one by Muhammad Ali goes like this: "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I've checked on a search on google and the other one came up as a song by someone called Bigbang, and also seems to be quoted as either by the boxer. So should i change it? Simply south (talk) 19:39, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Changed. Simply south (talk) 20:27, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Support assuming that it hasn't been used before. The links are just OK. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- It probably worked better with the misquote\song title. (Fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee) Simply south (talk) 12:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support The links fall into the category of "meh". Maybe "bee" can pipe to WP:HG? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Not quite the same as the Mohammad Ali as this one is a misquote and a song title by a band called Bigbang. I think the links work with Fly, better than float. It is also not quite the same as this. Simply south (talk) 21:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)