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November 7

Making or requesting a "BOT"

How does one go about creating or requesting a "BOT" to go around and make specific changes? I edit a lot of music articles and have been encountering a lot of links to AllMusic that are written "http://allmusic.com ..." instead of "http://allmusic.com ..." -- the wm06 makes it into a bad link. A brief search shows a lot of these out there, I certainly don't want to go fixing it manually. No idea how long they've been there, either, just seems like I've been encountering it a lot lately. I've seen the "date/maintenance fix" bot and others, can we get one to do this repair? Thanks. Salamurai (talk) 05:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All Music Guide underwent a name change that already has at least one bot going around changing links. I thinkk you're best off finding whoever that was. Unfortunately, I have no idea where I saw that edit, since I come across a lot of music articles on a daily basis. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:52, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And if that doesn't work, try Wikipedia:Bot requests.--A bit iffy (talk) 08:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:J Milburn Bot is the one that replaced All Music Guide with Allmusic, but it did not change any links. There are over 300 links to wm06.allmusic.com. [1] --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Such prefixes are often names of specific servers. Is that server completely dead then? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It returns "You are not authorized to view this page". Changing wm06 to www gives the correct page. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 12:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
thanks! Salamurai (talk) 03:15, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Signature Personalization & Tables

I read the help article on personalization but I am still not clear how to change the font and color of my signature.

also, I need help in making tables.

Can some please explain how to do all this right from the basics?

Torque3000 (talk) 10:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For me the personalization page was pretty clear. What is it exactly that you're not getting? Is it about where to do it, or about what markup to use to actually change your sig appearence? With regards to the tables: did you read Help:Table? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i dont know what markup to use —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torque3000 (talk • contribs) 12:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Leave a note on my talk page (hit talk in my signature, and add a note to the bottom of the page) and tell me what kind of formatting you want to achieve on your signature. I'll help you write out the code and explain how it works. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing using page to moderate far-right hate site.

I have come across an editor who seems to be using his user space to explain his decisions as a moderator on what appears to be a far-right hate site. As well as editing the wiki, I also donate to the foundation and object to my donations being used for people to contact business for off-site race hate sites. Is there a template I can use to ask them to stop? --Cameron Scott (talk) 16:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What user? --Orange Mike | Talk 16:19, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This guy - User:Ed Poor, I thought the site was some sort of parody to start with but it preaches hate against muslims, homosexuals, pretty much anyone who isn't white. What the guy wants to do on his own time is his business but I'd rather it wasn't done here. --Cameron Scott (talk) 16:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any references on his user page to another site. Maybe I'm missing something? TN‑X-Man 16:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He seems to be a moderator of www.conservapedia.com which I became aware of because of another forum I'm a member of and then ended up back here after looking at some of the pages. I thought it was a wikipedia parody to start with. Anyway the guy is a mod there and seems to be conducting business for that place here. Like I said, I don't care what anyone wants to do in their own time but I don't see why the business of the far-right should be done here. --Cameron Scott (talk) 16:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you're talking about now. The discussion is on his talk page. Personally, I don't see any real problems there, but if you are concerned, the best first step is to drop him a note on his talk page. If he doesn't reply, you can ask other editors to look at the issue and see if further steps are needed. TN‑X-Man 16:42, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(outdent) If anyone would like to know more, this issue is being discussed at ANI. TN‑X-Man 17:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've been claiming for some time that the various POV-pushing wikis out there such as Conservapedia and RationalWiki (which was started in direct opposition to Conservapedia) act as important safety valves for Wikipedia. I believe we want the various ideologues on the right and left and wherever else who find their way to Wikipedia to become aware of wikis catering to their views, because otherwise they will want to push their views on Wikipedia. If they think Wikipedia is the "only game in town," they will want to fight all their battles here. I think it is much better to show them wikis where they find everyone agrees with them. Most people find disagreement unpleasant, so the people who can't live with Wikipedia's rules will be much happier elsewhere, and Wikipedia will be much happier if they go elsewhere. I am aware that this might result in someone somewhere publishing something I disagree with, but that's life. Better that those opinions are on some obscure wiki than to have them soiling our paradise of neutrality here. Just my opinion. --Teratornis (talk) 18:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I might add that no less a personage than Jimbo Wales has expressed discomfort with userboxes on Wikipedia. However, getting rid of userboxes might cause more harm than good to Wikipedia, by discouraging some of the people people who donate labor to Wikipedia, for whom userboxes are a valuable reward. People can learn to contribute to articles with a neutral point of view, in brief spurts, and subject to constant correction by others, but nobody is actually going to be neutral. As long as Wikipedia can only be built by people who hold opinions, we have to make some allowances for them. However, we should and do draw the line against outright advocacy for any cause on Wikipedia other than Wikipedia itself. --Teratornis (talk) 18:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

comments & suggestions

where can i add comments & suggestions inoder to improve this beautiful world of knowledge & wisdom............my appreciation & gratitude to the people behind the scenes & to those running the show

Regards, R Carter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.5.151.66 (talk) 18:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It really depends upon the subject of the suggestion. Wikipedia has discussion boards all over for different subjects. I would say the closest thing to a centralized suggestion board would be the various boards of the Village Pump, but even there you are likely to be pointed to somewhere else more directly on the topic of your suggestion. - TexasAndroid (talk) 19:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are also invited to improve it yourself. We mean it. Jump right in, make any changes you want. If you screw up, don't worry, anyone else can fix it. Have at it! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 19:19, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before suggesting anything, study what others have already suggested. See for example Wikipedia:Perennial proposals. Newcomers to Wikipedia tend to form mistaken impressions about it, and some of these mistakes are stereotypical (that is, made by wave after wave of successive newcomers). I suggest that in addition to whatever you do on Wikipedia itself, you should keep some private notes on your computer about your initial impressions of Wikipedia and ideas for it. Then after you have spent a year or two editing on Wikipedia, you can go back to your notes and have a good laugh. That's what I recently did when I pulled out some of my early (and, thankfully) private musings about Wikipedia. My ideas weren't entirely ridiculous, but much of what I thought about doing was more applicable to doing on other wikis. Wikipedia is actually a very specialized wiki, just one of many thousands on offer, albeit one of the largest and most popular. Many ideas one might randomly have about what one could do with this technology are better suited for other wikis, some of which already exist, and some which might be waiting for someone like you to start them. --Teratornis (talk) 21:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question of the day

I would like to know how many gigabytes of information Wikipedia uses as a whole. Sorry, I'm a sucker for statistics :) Digital ^Ninja 21:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:EIW#Statistic should keep you busy for a while. --Teratornis (talk) 21:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:FAQ/Technical#How big is the database? for some old numbers. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:55, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 8

Help with collateral damage on French Wikipedia article

Hi. I'm currently editing this article. Especially if you have been involved with WikiProject tropical cyclones or you are good at timeline templates or you have an account on fr.wp, please take a look at the diffs and try to fix it. You don't need to have very good French because the table is based on an English version. The table on there is messed up, if you wish you can look at the tables below.

Original table before the addition of "Paloma":

Table after the addition of Paloma:

The problem is, the table now is missing all the labels. Can someone try to fix this, so "Paloma" is still present, but so are the labels? It isn't working on the English Wikipedia either it seems, see this article and its talkpage. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see any labels on either (FF2, Vista SP1, 16-bit, laptop) Dendodge Talk^Contribs 11:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some other users recently reported problems with timelines.

--Teratornis (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

editprotected tab via CSS

Could I modify my monobook.css to create a tab for adding an {{editprotected}} request? My idea is that it should be displayed on any page that is fully protected, and that I'd have a one-click shortcut for the usual procedure of going to the talk page, creating a new section and putting in the editprotected template. Or would someone have to write a script for that sort of thing? Everyme 05:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think adding tabs (especially tabs that add content when you click on them) requires a JavaScript script. I'm not sure if there already is one, you may want to look around. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 18:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like you want to add {{editprotected}}, then start the discussion: this is backwards. You need to start the discussion and gain consensus for the change, then add {{editprotected}} to get the changes made. The only time you would do this without a prior discussion is where the change would be obvious: a spelling or grammar error for example. Many editprotected requests get declined because there is no discussion. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Details

Dear Wikipedia,

I need to post one article for A to Z superstore, am finding it diffcult to post such article. If you could please help me in posting one article which can be access thorught google and other related sites and also inform me about the articles are paid one's or free of cost.

Regards, A to Z superstore Mumbai —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atozsuperstore (talk • contribs) 08:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You posted the entry to your userpage. Right now it would have no chance of surviving as an article, because it is not written in a neutral encyclopedic tone. It also doesn't have any citations to reliable sources. If you want to learn more about writing articles, please read "Your First Article". - Mgm|^(talk) 08:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And read Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. Note that writing new articles from scratch which will survive deletion is one of the more difficult tasks on Wikipedia, and is usually one of the worst tasks for brand new users to try first. If you want to create a new article on Wikipedia and have it stick, you should read Wikipedia - The Missing Manual. --Teratornis (talk) 18:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unwatch link on my watchlist never works

The unwatch link next to the diff and hist links for an article never works for me – the article isn't removed from my watchlist. Opening the article and pressing the unwatch link there does. Any ideas? Thanks Rjwilmsi 09:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For ease of reference, here is the not-working javascript Rjwilmsi is using to create the 'unwatch' links:

addOnloadHook(function () {
    var query_prefix = "title=Special:Watchlist&action=submit&remove=1&id[]=";
    //var query_prefix = "action=unwatch&title=";
 
    if (window.location.href.indexOf("Special:Watchlist") < 0) return;
    if (window.location.href.indexOf("Special:Watchlist/edit") >= 0) return;
 
    var links = document.getElementById('content').getElementsByTagName('a');
    for (var i = 0; i < links.length; i++) {
        if (links[i].href.substring(links[i].href.length-15) != '&action=history')
            continue;
        var unwatch = document.createElement('a');
        unwatch.href = "/enwiki/w/index.php?" + query_prefix + encodeURIComponent(links[i].title);
        unwatch.title = "Unwatch "+links[i].title;
        unwatch.appendChild(document.createTextNode("unwatch"));
        links[i].parentNode.insertBefore(unwatch, links[i].nextSibling);
        // kluge to handle case where "diff" is unlinked:
        var delim = links[i].previousSibling;
        delim = (delim.nodeType == 3 ? delim.nodeValue : "");
        links[i].parentNode.insertBefore(document.createTextNode(delim.replace(/^.*diff/, "")), unwatch);
    }
});

Algebraist 10:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks. I hadn't realised that the unwatch option was a custom thing. I must have added it a good while ago. I've found an alternative script that works now. Rjwilmsi 11:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Old script was from Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Unwatch and is marked as broken. Rjwilmsi 11:29, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

content list & other things not working

I suspect I've changed a setting somewhere, but can't find what I did. These features aren't working with me -

When I click on a contents box, it doesn't go down to that section.
When the mouse hovers over a Wikilink, nothing now shows.
When showing my waych list, when the mouse hovers over "diff", nothing now shows.

I'd appreciate some help to restore these, please! Hogyn Lleol (talk) 11:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I seem to have now sorted this myself. It wasn't the settings in Wikipedia. I'm using Vista and it needs to run the page in "Compatability mode". Hogyn Lleol (talk) 12:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vista should not be a problem. I guess the problem is that you have installed Internet Explorer 8 Beta which still has some serious bugs. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changing My Preferences

If I try to change my preferences, it comes up with the following warning: "Your password is invalid or too short. It must have at least 1 character and be different from your username.". But my password is there, as usual, and it's certainly longer than 1 character and not the same as my username. Fribbler (talk) 11:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you try to change your password or some other setting when that came up? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FF sometimes autocompletes the 'old password' field with your password. You have to delete it to change any of your other preferences. Algebraist 11:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was Firefox's overzealous autocompletion all right! Problem is solved. Thanks. Fribbler (talk) 12:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rust

how do you get rust off of glass? My glass holders for citronella candles got rusty after being outside on the deck this past summer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.146.128 (talk) 14:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the massive notice at the top of this page. - 87.211.75.45 (talk) 15:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Searching the Web with {{Google}} for: how to remove rust stains from glass finds lots of results. --Teratornis (talk) 18:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some climate boxes I'm adding do not show up

I've added climate boxes to Phoenix, Arizona, Scottsdale, Arizona, Las Vegas, Nevada, Clearwater, Florida, and a few others and they've all worked fine. But the two I've added to Miami, Florida and Tucson, Arizona -- the precipitation and temperature values simply do not show up. I cannot find anything different that I've done to those two articles' climate boxes than the others.

Any explanation or help would be greatly appreciated. Rko202 (talk) 16:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

on the Miami, Florida page it looks like another editor removed the chart you added because the page already has a climate chart. the chart you added to Tucson, Arizona shows up fine for me. Sssoul (talk) 16:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Valid citable sources??

I just created an article for Safri Duo's new album Origins. Their website gives no idea of the album's release date; however at least two online music stores (this one and this one, for example) state the date of release as 17 November 2008.. Can these sites be cited reliably on the article? At least until Safri Duo announce something officially on their site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghuvansh r (talk • contribs) 18:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There might be no final answer on something like this which every Wikipedia user will agree on. WP:V says:

Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed.

which I interpret to mean that if nobody challenges your claim of a release date for the album, your sources are effectively reliable enough. However, since we cannot predict what all other Wikipedia users will do, the only way to know if your sources are reliable enough is to throw them out there and see what happens. I suggest being bold by doing this:

Cite the sources you have.
Leave a note on Talk:Origins (Safri Duo Album) explaining the problem, what you did, and alerting other editors to look for some future announcement of the release date which is more official. That way you eliminate any suspicion of having tried to do something sneaky.
Send e-mail to the band or the label asking them to post an official release date we can cite.

Also see the links under WP:EIW#Source; it looks like Wikipedians have written just about everything there is to know about reliable sources and how we use them. --Teratornis (talk) 19:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've come across multiple instances where the release dates cited by online stores were not actually the correct ones. I would therefore by a little suspicious unless the band themselves or their management would make an official statement. Nevertheless, if it is the best you have, make sure you don't cite it as fact, but simply state that "multiple stores list the release date as....". - Mgm|^(talk) 20:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image size fix

I can't seem to get the main (first) picture on Brandon Roy bigger. Any help? Thanks in advance, A _talk 21:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You need to add |image_size= right below |image=. This will allow you to adjust the size of the picture instead of adding |240px after the image name. See {{Infobox NBA player}}. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 21:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! A _talk 21:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 9

Citation templates and archived/cached web sources

I've just come across an article I created a couple of years ago that now points to dead links because the cached google version I linked to is no longer valid. I want to solve this by using WebCite. To avoid this happening again, I would like to include a cache version of any references I make in new articles (so any editor coming across the article can fix deadlinks to sources). I thought there was a field for that in citation templates but I can no longer find that. Should I use HTML comment tags or did I miss something? - Mgm|^(talk) 00:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice tidbit: One of the suggestions they make to a student/programmer looking for a project with them is to: "develop a wikipedia bot which scans new wikipedia articles for cited URLs, submits an archiving request to WebCite®, and then adds a link to the archived URL behind the cited URL." If such an effort was made (and expanded to older pages), we would suffer a lot less linkrot. Only people removing their content from the archive could then interfere with link stability. - Mgm|^(talk) 00:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can I get an opinion on a few edits

This edit as well as some of the other recent edits to the Cindy Margolis article seem rather out of place. I don't recall any other article being quite so up front about who the subject's agent is. Am I the only one who thinks that this is a bit odd/out of place/unusual/etc? Or maybe a bit too much like advertising? The user even includes Margolis' agent's web site in the external links. Dismas|^(talk) 02:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're correct, the edits are a clear conflict of interest. I've restored the previous revision of the article and warned the user.

A few things give it away; check out User:Sparkato48's contributions. The account was solely created to edit this article. Also, this diff showing before and after the edits shows that there are several attempts to put the subject in a more positive light, eg "divorced" is changed to "separated". And yes, you noticed — the external link in the end. The user added Margolis' agent's name three times in their edits. Well done! Pretzels^Talk! 03:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MY question is incorporated with the space

As we know that when we leave earth the volume of air tend to decrease and we cant adhere to one particular position as we keep on floating in the space , so my question is when once the rocket is launched ,when it leaves the earth and enter the space orbit , why does it not float in air , can you reveal the scientific reason behind it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.104.81 (talk) 04:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what you're asking but I'm pretty sure it belongs at the Science Reference Desk and not here. Dismas|^(talk) 05:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page Format Missing

I recently came across this problem: Whenever I go to wikipedia I am missing all of the formating at the left and top of the page. All I get is the type going straight down the page. Can anyone help me with this issue? I currently use Firefox version 3.0.3. this does not happen with IE.

Thanks,

Dave Clark —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmeguy1 (talk • contribs) 04:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have the MonoBook skin at Special:Preferences in Firefox? Have you tried to completely clear the cache in Firefox? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Degraded image

Hi, I wonder if someone who understands these things could take a look at the image Image:Pole-south.gif as it appears at the top of South Pole. For me, it's badly degraded, as if it's been through a very poor scaling algorithm (compare a similar image at North Pole, which is fine) The strange thing is that I'm sure this image was perfectly OK until quite recently, and I don't see what's changed. Any ideas? 86.133.214.217 (talk) 05:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

The image looks fine from my computer, The problem could be with your browser. Have you changed any settings recently? and what browser are you using?.--intraining ^{Jack In} 07:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They look fine to me, too (if anything I'd say the South Pole image looks better than the North Pole image, but my eyesight is less than stellar...) however, there is a discussion on WP:AN right now about problems with GIFs - apparently the server-side scaling of GIFs has had to be switched off to reduce server load. I wonder if this could be the cause of the problem? I'm fairly sure I've looked at both the North and South Pole articles fairly recently, so it's quite possible I'm seeing "good" images because they're cached on my computer.

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 09:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Sourth Pole image is a GIF, the North Pole is a PNG. GIFs do not rezise well. Click on the image: it the original size is good, then resizing is the problem. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm using IE7, with no recent setting changes that I'm aware of. "The server-side scaling of GIFs has had to be switched off to reduce server load" sounds to me very likely to be the problem that I'm seeing. The unscaled image is just fine. I don't really see why PNGs should be any less computationally intensive to scale than GIFs (or maybe they're scaled by the browser?), but if PNGs are still scaled OK (as they seem to be for me) then perhaps in an ideal world someone who has the time and the tools could convert the GIF to PNG. Pending that I've just changed the article to display the GIF actual size, which is not too bad. Thanks everyone... 00:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.30.51 (talk)

Interwiki account

Firstly, let me tell you the account that I actually registered myself: English, Indonesian, French, and Latin. I never registered for another Wiki account besides that. However this morning, I received a message (notified by e-mail) from Malaysian wiki welcoming me to their wikipedia. I am really curious, so I checked my Global account status. Surprise, surprise: I got account in Japanese and Javanese, all of the languages that I speak/understand (though I only have intermediate understanding in Japanese) - see my userpage babel. I intend to keep those account. but what makes me curious is the fact that I am not registering to use those. Is my account being used by someone else (I am using my own laptop). w_tanoto (talk) 09:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you access those new accounts with the password you use in the other accounts? - Mgm|^(talk) 10:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I use unified login. The first time I use unified login, there was 4 accounts that I created myself. Now, a total of 7 accounts are listed. Is this automatic things, because all of those are actually the language that is listed in my babel, though not all of them? May I know the IP, so I can compare it with my own IP. w_tanoto (talk) 10:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATES: I know the problem is. Once I visited wikipedia in other languages, I automatically became registered because of the use of unified login. Thanks for attempting to help me. Problem solved. w_tanoto (talk) 10:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

help me

why buying an existing business is a better option and compared to starting up one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.147.51 (talk) 14:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN‑X-Man 14:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question

Which car should i buy? What's better a Toyota Avensis or VW Polo, cheers - matt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.145.90 (talk) 14:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. You might want to ask this at the reference desk. Not sure if they'll be able to help you though. If I were you, I'd try to find info on these vehicles from someone you can trust and really knows about them, since it is something important. Chamal ^talk 14:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

getting logged out while editing

I recently edited an article, taking over half an hour to do so. I started out logged in, and frequently used "show preview", but didn't save for a long time. When I eventually did so, I discovered I'd been logged out, so the edit appears under my IP address, not my username. How can I stop this happening? I never want to edit when logged out, but have done so accidentally several times now. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 14:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you check the "remember me" box when logging in?.--intraining ^{Jack In} 14:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure that the "remember me" is related to automatically logging out, Theoneintraining? I'm not sure, but sounds to me like it might be something with his browser settings. Chamal ^talk 15:11, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Same thing happened to me some time ago; turned out I hit Ctrl+O (= "log out") by accident sometimes while I just wanted to preview my edits with Ctrl+P, because "O" is next to "P" on my keyboard. The solution was in adding the following code to the end of my Special:Mypage/monobook.js:

// Disable Alt+O ("log out")
ta['pt-logout'] = new Array(,'Log out');

HTH. - Erik Baas (talk) 15:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't been using "remember me". I'd not been doing that because I didn't want to be left logged in when I wasn't using my computer at all. But that's why explicit logging out is provided, isn't it. I have to admit I've never been logging out, since I relied on the system doing it for me. So I think that's the answer. I'll change my habits forthwith. Thanks, theoneintraining, we'll see if that works out better. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 15:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully that works for you, please come back if you continue to have trouble.--intraining ^{Jack In} 15:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contacting non-English Wikipedians

The entry Boogeyman has a comprehensive list of versions of the creature in other cultures, but none of them are cited. Since tracking down citations in English will be well-nigh impossible, I was wondering if any native speakers of those languages could help me track down some sources. Serendi ^podous 14:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most questions on the Help desk get some sort of answer a lot quicker than this one, suggesting that not many of the people who have been monitoring the Help desk over the past several hours know what to make of this. Maybe the following ideas will be better than no answer:

Follow the interlanguage links from the article, for example de:Butzemann cites a source (in German, naturally).
Examine the history of the Boogeyman article, see who added all that unsourced material, and ask them on their user talk pages where they got it.
Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination might provide some clues.
Go down the list in Boogeyman#Analogues in other cultures and see if we have corresponding WikiProjects. For example, the first entry is for Argentina, and we have a Wikipedia:WikiProject Argentina. Some member of that WikiProject may know a source for hombre de la bolsa or be able to find one.

--Teratornis (talk) 01:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fuck me boots

Why does Fuck me boots redirect to Kinky boots? FMB's are not always 'extreme' or 'kinky' they are just normal boots which girls wear, normally brown or black, which when worn with a skirt in particular send the signal to men that they are up for some fun, and when men see them they want to fuck the female in question even more than normal. nothing to do with kinky fetish boots i think u will find.

Kinky boots says: "A related term is fuck-me boots, which is, however, often used in a more tongue-in-cheek, humorous way. It is a term more common to the US."

If a subject isn't notable enough for its own article (or no editor has yet made an article), then it's common to redirect the term to a related article which may include mention of the term. I have added {{R from related word}} to the redirect. If you have a reliable source explaining the term then you can edit the quoted sentence and cite your source. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help using same reference twice

Hi,

I am trying to use the same reference at multiple places in a paragraph. The way I am able to do it creates a new reference every time I add the reference again. I am trying to edit the "Vagus nerve stimulatiors and sleep apnea" section of the article Vagus_nerve_stimulation. If you look at the footnotes for that section, you will see what my problem is. I want to be able to use the same reference in multiple places without creating a new entry in the "references" or "footnotes" section. Thanks for your help.--Rishi Raj, MD, FCCP, DABSM (talk) 17:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rishirajmd (talk • contribs) 17:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You use the same reference multiple times by putting a name="" attribute on one of the <ref>s (putting the name between the quotes), and then using it again by inserting <ref name="[name of the reference to reuse]" /> where you want to reuse it. This way, there are two links that point to the same footnote. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 17:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the first occurrence do <ref name="source">rest of the reference as usual</ref>. for additional links to the same reference, use <ref name="source" />. Where source is a single word (I think only one word is supported) to name the source. --GraemeL ^(talk) 17:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:FOOT#Naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once for details. If you put quotes around the name attribute value, the value may contain embedded spaces (i.e., more than one word). --Teratornis (talk) 19:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

error in Wind power

Hi! I noticed an error yesterday when reading the "wind power" page here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power

The first sentence of the second paragraph on that page reads "The principle application of wind power today is to generate electricity." and obviously it should use the word "principal" not "principle." I registered an account, assuming that I could then make an edit to correct the word, but I can't seem to figure out how to do so, or perhaps I have to wait a few more days after registering to be allowed to make changes; I can't quite figure out all the rules here : )

Thank you, Julie Mandell (user name: juliemandell) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliemandell (talk • contribs) 18:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia!. The article is semi protected against vandalism. Thanks for pointing it out. I've corrected it. --GraemeL ^(talk) 18:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reccomendations?

Hello. I just started an article, Patellar Subluxation Syndrome, and would like your suggestiions. Is there anything that should be fixed? Does it have a chance of staying? Thanks.--Archeopteryx (talk) 20:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try WP:PR --GPPande talk! 20:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keyboard short cuts.

Just like we have keyboard shortcut (not Wikipedia shortcut) to take the cursor to search box (alt+shift+f) do we have any for jumping to Usertalk page, user watchlist or contributions? I know of Wikipedia shortcuts which can save typing efforts in search box but want to know of any navigational shortcut keys that can be used for userspace pages. --GPPande talk! 20:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Keyboard shortcuts. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. Thanks. --GPPande talk! 20:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are tooltips when you hover over the navigation links in wikipedia. Theses tooltips also contain hits for the hotkeys. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 23:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

am i qualified to edit wikipedia?

i know most ppl on here are like univeseity educated and all that so i was wondering if i is educated enough to edit also? i mean i only got 4 gcses and they were pretty bad, 2 c, 2 d, 1 u ,lol i know! and then after that i quit school so i dunno now if i can edit this or not. and u can tell me written english isnt really well good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.191.55 (talk) 22:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you're not a star in writing, perhaps you can contribute in some other way. There's plenty of articles that need free (non-copyrighted) pictures. And sometimes higher-educated people simply get stuck in what they know, making what they write hard to understand for regular people. You could drop by featured article candidates and peer review to share your view on such articles. In other words: I'm sure there's something you can do for Wikipedia even if it's not writing.- Mgm|^(talk) 22:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your English isn't amazing, but formatting and images are easy, and involve very little writing. Once you get used to being around here, you can contribute to discussions and !votes. It will probably help you learn as well. Dendodge Talk^Contribs 22:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you draw pictures? Can you take photographs? Wikipedia always needs more illustrations. Look up articles that are about things in the area where you live (bridges, parks, landmarks, etc.). You can photograph them and upload the photos to Commons. Anybody can point a camera, even people who can't spell. If you cannot write or aim a camera, you could give money. If you don't have money, you can't write, and you can't aim a camera, you could answer questions on the Help desk. I'm actually serious - to answer questions here, all you have to do is look up the answers and copy and paste the links to them, like this answer to your question:

See Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia.

You can add a lot of value to Wikipedia just by telling people where to look in the online help for answers to their questions on the Help desk. Learning how to look up answers in this way will make you an expert on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 00:18, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really like the kinds of answers this guy got ! DOR (HK) (talk) 03:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Teflon: What happened to the original article? (pre: January 2008)

I just visited the page on Teflon. This is a page I have visited more than 10 months ago. Now I find that the current page was created in January 2008 and has precious little content. What happened to the original page?!? That page contained a great deal of information about invention of Teflon, its use on the NASA Shuttle as well as many other uses, including as a non-stick coating on frying pans. What happened to that original content? Was it deleted? Was it moved to a new heading. certainly, this page had a history prior to January 2008. Enquire (talk) 22:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's about the brand name 'Teflon' - there's a long word in the first paragraph that links to what you're looking for. Dendodge Talk^Contribs 22:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Teflon is a DuPont registered trademark for a number of products so the Teflon disambiguation page is correct. The most common Teflon products that you describe are made from polytetrafluoroethylene, usually referred to as PTFE. – ukexpat (talk) 02:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Text copying issue

I just ran into a problem in copying text from one article or external source to another Wikipedia article, or cutting a part of an article and pasting it into another part of the same Wikipedia article. Every time I try to paste an article, it shows the message "Text copying disabled". It is with my computer, your servers, or a combonation thereof. Please advise. Chris (talk) 23:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you try copying images? Sometimes it screws up if you do that.... Cheers. Imperat§ r^(Talk) 23:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 10

Archive box issues

Can someone please take a look at my talk page tell me what I'm doing wrong for all of my discussions to be archived in only one place? Archives 2&3 remain completely empty and Archive 1 only holds the first batch of archives, which means many more have been archived, well, nowhere. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 02:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mobile skin

is there a skin for mobile phones (like the iPhone)?Portable101 (talk) 03:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:EIW#Mobile. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 04:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Made mistake by accident now need help to fix the error

While working on Chiang Kai-shek I made some mistakes at Chiang Kai-shek#Names. Could someone fix the problem for me?Arilang1234 (talk) 08:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It had a bunch of empty lines, which were screwing up the spacing. Perhaps the intent was to prevent the images from flowing into the next section. I removed the empty lines and added a {{clear}} at the bottom of the section. Is that what you wanted? —teb728 t c 09:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

registration confirmation problem

Hello

I registered with Wikipedia yesterday. I had to do so via 'Create an account', rather than the straightforward click-click-click process, because when I typed the confirmation text and clicked 'Submit', the next page said the confirmation text was incorrect. I'm writing this from memory, so the exact phrase 'confirmation text' may be wrong. What I mean is the wavy, fuzzy phrase in a box that I had to type out in a box below.

The fuzzy text was clearer than it often is in such boxes, and the phrases were plain English, such as 'trialrun', 'cleartext', and such. They were all lower case, with no spaces between the 2 words. I typed them that way. I tried 3 times, and was presented with 3 different phrases, and each time I failed. I also tried putting a space between the 2 words; that didn't work either.

So I'm wondering whether you've got a problem with the bit of code that interprets what a user types in this box; or whether it's a browser problem (I use Opera in WinXPPro). The one thing I'm pretty sure of is that I didn't mistype what I saw, and that what I typed was the exact string in the fuzzy-characters box.

Best wishes

Mary —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlordbernard (talk • contribs) 10:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what the error message calls it but such fuzzy words are named a CAPTCHA. They are also required when unregistered users add external links. Can you add an external link like http://www.google.com/ to this section when you are logged out? Warning: This will reveal your IP address if you are succesful. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Generating a list of most popular articles in a project

Hello. I seem to remember someone posting a link to generate a list of the most-browsed articles in the Theatre wikiproject a while back, but I can't find it now. How can I generate such a list? DionysosProteus (talk) 11:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The tool is probably listed at WP:TOOLS.- 131.211.151.245 (talk) 13:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Raibin

I am trying to resubmit this for review and addition to Wikipedia having now re-written and ammended it according to the Reviewer's instructions but can't see how to re-submit it for inclusion.

This is all factual and can be verified if you go to google so don't understand why it cannot be included.

Thankyou Amy Moosah

AFC SUBMISION P Nadia Raibin'is recognised as the manager and brains behind the worlds first opera band Amici forever which she formed in collaboration with Geoff Sewell- tenor of this multi platinum selling artist. Nadia Raibin signed the group which was originally known as Tenors & Divas before changing its name to Amici forever - in one of the largest recording deals for a classical artist to the USA - RCA Victor (SONYBMG). They went on to sell 2 million albums worldwide, had a No.1 on the US Billboard Chart with their debut CD "The Opera Band" and reached Gold disc status in the UK as well as charting at No.2 in the Classical Charts. They were recognised with platinum sales for their 2nd album DEFINED in New Zealand and Australia. The original Amici forever group comprised of Geoff Sewell, David Habbin, Joanne Appleby, Tsakane Valentine and Nick Garrett. After the release of their 2nd album Nadia Raibin was removed as manager and Nick Garrett then departed the group. Their recording contract was not renewed by Sony/BMG . Nadia Raibin was also the originator of the classical dueo Operababes, two sopranos Rebecca Knight and Karen England who were found busking in Covent Garden and who Nadia Raibin signed to Sony. Operbabes attained a Gold Disc for their debut album in the UK selling 60,000 units. Nadia Raibin most recently formed and signed a unique childrens choir to EMI Records called Kindred Spirits - which she formed alongside the New London Childrens Choir director Ronald Corp and who released their debut album in December 08..

Sources General news items from www.kindredspiritschoir.com; www.amiciforever.com; www.massmovement.uk.com; google for "Nadia Raibin", album credits on Opera Band, Defined, Kindred Spirits, Operababes, Russell Watson, Classical X website and other reputable press articles —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amymoosah (talk • contribs) 12:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You only gave global domain names for your sources and saying there are press releases on google is not enough. You actually have to point to them directly. If you can't find a direct link for a press release, just provide enough information so someone else can find it. (Title, author, date, publication, etc) - 131.211.151.245 (talk) 12:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You made a misspelling and omitted formatting characters in [2]. When you have added precise verifiable sources, copy the exact text displayed here to the page:

{{AFC submission|P}}

The text is processed by software which alerts editors by tagging the page and placing it in Category:Pending Afc requests, so the text has to be exact. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppets

How do you add somebodys name to the suspected sock puppeteers list...and it has been proven. Hairy Perry 14:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it has been proven, then the user should have been blocked. The template {{sockpuppetproven}} should be on their user page. If it is suspected, then place the template {{sockpuppet}} on their user page and open a request at checkuser. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 14:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well Apawk has confessed on Talk:Relapse (album) that he is indeed UnrealSpiritX. So is that still suspected or is that confirmed? Considering it was a blatant confession and on Apawk's talk page before somebody deleted it he said he was going to use multiple sock puppets to get back on here at Wikipedia. Hairy Perry 14:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. Then the page you want is WP:SSP. That's the place to report sockpuppetry. Once an admin reviews the case, the user will be blocked as is deemed appropriate. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 14:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The user has already been blocked, but it was not for sock puppetry, but for vandalism only...but he is continuing to use sock puppets as a way around the block (block-evading sock puppets), so my real question is...is he confirmed or suspected? Hairy Perry 14:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If s/he has admitted to it, I guess it would be (mostly) confirmed. The only way to be honest-to-goodness positive is to request a checkuser. But if s/he admitted to it, well, that's almost as good.

As a side note, the original user may have been blocked for vandalism, but the other accounts may eligible for blocking as socks. I hope this helps and that I haven't confused you more than I answered your question! TN‑X-Man 15:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[3] Now he is back on Talk:Relapse (album) with the new name ApawkA. Hairy Perry 15:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, from the looks of it, I would just report him to WP:AIV. He's not making any positive contributions and appears to be a vandalism-only account. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 15:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please move page

to be consistent with other Russian submarines from Russian submarine K-141 Kursk to K-141 Kursk. Kittybrewster ☎ 14:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It got the current title after a discussion at Talk:Russian submarine K-141 Kursk#Move to Russian submarine K-141 Kursk and listing at Wikipedia:Requested moves, so I don't think it should be moved without prior discussion. There are currently also articles like Russian submarine Kursk explosion, Russian submarine AS-34, Russian battlecruiser Pyotr Velikiy. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you ignored my discussion advice and moved it to a third title RFS Kursk K-141 which has 3 Google hits, all of them from Wikipedia mirrors. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense: SS New York, RMS Titanic, etc... - 131.211.151.245 (talk) 15:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That discussion wasn't particularly highly visited... Was mainly the idea of just one person (based on the talkpage). The whole thing should be in line with other submarine articles. (MacGyverMagic) - 131.211.151.245 (talk) 15:45, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the requested moves discussion? - 131.211.151.245 (talk) 15:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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