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If an internal transclusion led you here, you may wish to change it to point directly to the intended page. * Thanks for your compliments :) The way you gain more userspace is to make user subpages. If you need any help, I'll be glad to do so. -- penubag (talk) 01:11, 17 November 2009 (UTC) * Just want to say that's some fine HTML work on your userpage... it's gorges and very clean and organized. But, how does one achieve several different pages outside of just the single userpage? NoFlyingCars (talk) 01:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC) * hey anons! -- penubag (talk) 19:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC) * Hi. 90.193.151.67 (talk) 06:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC) * Hihihihihihi. 90.212.10.248 (talk) 15:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC) * Of course you are! Any person that is willing to spend time to help out in building an encyclopedia is good. It takes dedication! -- penubag (talk) 07:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC) * Hey man am i a good editor? BigPadresDUDE (talk) 03:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC) * Hey! What's up doc? -- penubag (talk) 19:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC) * Hello, there. --I dream of horses (talk) 21:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC) * Why, hello! -- penubag (talk) 23:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC) * Hi! I just decided to stop by and say hello. :D Iridescence talk • contrib 16:00, 14 January 2009 (UTC) * I dropped out of college this morning. I'm ready for a job. [[ User ]] (talk) 00:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC) * hi guys :) -- penubag (talk) 02:07, 12 December 2008 (UTC) *Hello shoutbox! Rogerchocodiles *Hi. XD [[ User ]] (talk) 20:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC) *Hello!!! И i m b u s a n i a talk 06:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC) *English is a stupid language, that's all. You can see this here for all your there's: [1] -- penubag (talk) 23:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
*I'm glad you had fun, I wish I could go camping. I think I may want to go this summer. -- penubag (talk) 05:43, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
*Yeah! I found the secret page! I was able to go to the history and copy/paste the barnstar code to my page, so that's good. :) --♥Soccer5525♥Talk To Me! 19:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
*Thanks. I have a Wiki that is mostly rock, it called Warped Tour Wiki the official Wiki for the Warped Tour. You wanna join [[ Demon Hunter Rules ]] (talk) 23:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
*Wow, that's cool. -- penubag (talk) 05:20, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
*Check out this Revision, For from Sandbox. [[ Demon Hunter Rules ]] (talk) 01:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
*I know where it is, I won't tell you cause you have to look for it yourself, or ask Penubag. Demon Hunter Rules(—) 22:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
* I blanked the page because it was causing problems. When you find the page, check the page history to claim your reward. -- penubag (talk) 05:20, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
* I'm still looking for your secret page! It's soooo hard! --Soccer5525 (Tk • Ctrb) 22:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
*Oh, that's all right. Thanks for visiting my userpage :) -- penubag (talk) 03:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
*you know, honestly I don't remember how I found your userpage. Sorry. But thank you for signing my shoutbox and guestbook! --Soccer5525 (Tk • Ctrb) 22:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
*okay-- penubag (talk) 19:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
*Since I signed your shoutbox, you have to sign mine and my guestbook! PLEASE? --Soccer5525 (Tk • Ctrb) 19:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
*Thanks for the heads up, see you soon. -- penubag (talk) 19:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
*Penubag, I'm semi-retiring for many months and well I'm just giving you a heads up and well I might retire so anything you might wanna say to me now is the time but, you may leave me a message until the school season starts cause I'm heading back to College and well you can learn more about this on my user page. Demon Hunter Rules(—) 00:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
*Hello Diligent Terrier. -- penubag (talk) 17:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
*Hi! - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 00:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
*Hey if you can't join well I can wait but if you don't want to then ok thats alright with me so thanks any way. Demon Hunter Rules(—) 23:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
*Thanks, but I am really busy and probably won't be able to contribute. -- penubag (talk) 08:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
*Hey i made a wikia: Action Movies Wiki heyy do you wanna join cause i can upgrade your user status. Demon Hunter Rules(—) 23:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
*Please Juth & Chyr please put your edits on top of the page so penubag can find out what messges you left. Demon Hunter Rules(—) 02:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
*Greetings -- penubag (talk) 04:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
*Hello Juthani1 tcs 17:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
*Yep, but I blanked the page because of the MfD. You can still see it by looking on the history page though. -- penubag (talk) 04:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
*You have a hidden link?!--Colonel Valh ala-112 *Hello! -- penubag (talk) 04:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC) *Hi. StewieGriffin! • Talk 15:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC) *You're welcome! -- penubag (talk) 08:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC) *I'm getting desperate cause: i need some other user's to help the metal wikia project i would be the only user their besides "Hammerise" and well i need this to help my side project. Click here! Demon Hunter Rules(—) 19:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC) *Perfect and your did a awsome job one-hundred percent! Click here! Demon Hunter Rules(—) 19:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC) *done -- penubag (talk) 04:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC) *Hey i need to ask you for a favor please, well i need a sign that says "This user is advertising for help on a site please join this site, and would love user's who the genre metal, and would if you ask other user's for help" Well i can put the text down but i need your help so can you help me on? cause i i mean we metal wikian's need some help cause they got one-hundred articles i mean that is not a lot at all! and after the template is created i have a to do the rest! so will you please? also it will be advertised to lead out of wikipedia to metal wikia and it will be advertised in the sandbox. Click here! Demon Hunter Rules(—) 18:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC) *I hate scary movies so I'll make sure I don't watch any of those. -- penubag (talk) 02:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC) *Hey PenuBag i'm a part the Metal Wiki Well check out the link next to the text and, i like Penny DreadFul. wikiasite:metal:Special:Listusers. Did You Know: Did you know i was at the 2006 8 Films to Die for Festival i didn't go to anyother Horrorfest festival since then and well it was creappy and vile in Death!
*Done, see your talk -- penubag (talk) 23:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
*copyright, images, inclusionist, hackerMachete97 (talk) 22:51, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
* Yep, I designed them all :). Tell me which one you want and I'll transclude it for you. -- penubag (talk) 03:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
* AArgh ! your userboxes are all actually here - not migrated from their own page ! I was gonna use some.Machete97 (talk) 10:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
*Congrats on the admin stats! -- penubag (talk) 03:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
*Sir or mam please sign your comment, also hey penubag i am a sysop on metal wikia isn't that cool! Demon Hunter Rules (—|—) 22:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
*Nice page! -- penubag (talk) 03:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
*dude im hungry check out my page at user:juicestain.
*Hi i have found website yesterday(May 13th) and well i was looking for some information about Mila Kunis and well i came across chickipedia.com wikipedia about women and men check it out. Demon Hunter Rules (—|—) 16:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
*Yes, it's cool, but I like black better. -- penubag (talk) 10:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
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Recent graphics stuff
Any graphics stuff regarding the Around the World Competition please see: User:penubag/graphics This would include the gold medallion and the atlas + wikiball trophy. Thanks! -- penubag (talk) 07:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
RE:graphics
I replied on my /graphics page in order to keep the Atlas and Medallion conversation separate and organized. Thanks -- penubag (talk) 08:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Globe-in-globe-stand
There's a couple editors scouring the Internet for a picture with a globe stand in it. Hopefully they'll turn up something we can use.
The Transhumanist 09:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
It was a long advertisement for the Jane Schaffer Writing Program. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- If you really believe it's notable (you made no assertion to that effect, nor did you provide evidence), you have two alternatives. One would be to create a new article in your own userspace (at, say, User:Penubag/Schaffer) and ask other editors to review it before posting it to article space; in this case, I'd suggest you find a more notable name for this. The other would be to go to Wikipedia:Deletion review with what you had before. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- The sandbox has been created as you requested; good luck! --Orange Mike | Talk 16:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks-- penubag (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Xbox Barnstar
Hey, I'm Blackwatch21 from WikiProject Xbox, I was wondering if you could make me a Xbox barnstar. If you go to our page you can find our logo. Also we have a barnstar up right now but it's not really good. Best wishes. BW21. --BlackWatch21 18:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
What is Around the World?
It's a collaboration using advanced wiki-tools. It is sponsored jointly by WikiProject Lists of basic topics and WikiProject Geography.
Using these advanced tools, we are building a profile for every country of the world. These drafts are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics.
These profiles summarize essential information on each country. They are "topic outlines", but at the same time they are so much more, because Wikipedia is a hypertextual environment. Most of the topics presented are linkified, which turns these pages into a sort of site map to material about each country on Wikipedia.
The profiles share a standard format. So rather than tediously working on a single country to complete it, each participant works on all 200+ political entities, completing a single data item or detail across all of the pages. For this they use advanced tools like WP:AWB, Linky, etc. It goes fast, and since others are doing this at the same time, it makes "the World" (the set of country profiles) feel like a beehive, and the participants are its bees. :) The energy is contagious.
And since you are moving from country to country, the tasks make it feel like you are traveling all around the world, and you get to learn a little about every country as you do so. This approach also allows for greater efficiency, because by the time you've done 30 or so of a particular item, you've figured out how to finish it faster and more effectively (such as where to find the data or how to make adjustments), and this specialization speeds up development - but more importantly it reduces errors.
The tasks are varied, which adds even more variety to the project. Some tasks are look-ups-and-fill-ins, some are copy and paste, some are image hunts, some are maintenance adjustments, some are link fixing, some are blue-linking (creating an underlying redirect so a link turns blue), some are fact checking, etc.
Standing by to help are co-coordinators, who can lend a helping hand to participants, provide instruction and tips on how to use the tools, and help them find what they are looking for. Co-coordinators also use advanced tools to inspect the work of participants, and touch it up as needed, or if a task was done wrong throughout, point this out to the participant so he or she can make the necessary corrections.
Co-coordinators are working on the set of pages right now, to familiarize themselves with "the World" so they can help more effectively by the time the main event starts. But there's still lots of preparation left to be done, and we are looking for editors experienced in advanced wikitools who would like to become co-coordinators.
The Transhumanist 23:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
pyramids
How about an inverted pyramid balanced on the tip of a base pyramid?
The Transhumanist 00:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- replied on /graphics :) -- penubag (talk) 16:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Re:Xbox barnstar
Thanks, I greatly appreciate it. Regarding the specifications, whatever you do is fine with me. BW21.--BlackWatch21 02:25, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
What's up?
Hey.
The Transhumanist 19:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Medallion
Just to verify, do you like the map carved or sticking out like v0?-- penubag (talk) 21:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Trophy
My computer died. Luckily I have everything on flash drive. I'm currently accessing Wikipedia via a library computer, but there's no support for 3rd-party programs like GIMP, PAINT, etc. So I won't be able to help out on the actual graphics work.
Status report
It looks like the pages in the set will be ready for "Around the World" by the 15th. There are just a couple of confusing sections ("administrative divisions" and the government branches sections have temporary data that was placed there by template because it fits many but not all countries, and this may throw some people off - especially if they aren't in the competition), so we're in the process of completing those before the big event starts.
Meanwhile, there is a bot that is slowly picking away at these pages, undoing some of the work we've done. Some of the coats of arms images are tagged as copyrighted, and copyrighted images aren't supposed to be displayed in the Wikpedia namespace. And there's this bot that constantly searches for these, and every once inawhile finds one of ours. So far it has removed 5 of them. This is annoying because we've manually adjusted the sizes of the flag and coats of arms images on each page so their heights match (they are displayed side-by-side), and the bot is slowing but surely undoing that work. So I'm thinking that we may move all the pages to the article namespace as soon as the sections mentioned above are completed. The bot doesn't remove images in the main namespace. That I know of.
The proposal to change the names doesn't look like it is going to acquire consensus, so we're probably stuck with the current "List of basic x topics" names for the time being. Many of the discussion participants didn't even understand the proposal (some thought "topic outline" meant the same thing as "outline", etc.). It was a fiasco. Oh well.
I no longer have access to graphics programs (as I'm on library computers for the time being). So you're on your own there. Good luck. I look forward to seeing your great works of art.
The Transhumanist 22:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the status report. Sorry for being so inactive. -- penubag (talk) 16:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well medallion and atlas finished! That took me the whole weekend. Check it out on my /graphics page! -- penubag (talk) 19:35, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
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i need your help!
Hi Penubag. I'm Soccer5525 and I need some help of yours. I would like to add a shoutbox to my userpage, but don't know how to. Could you give me some help? Thanks! --Soccer5525 (Tk • Ctrb) 12:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I already was able to add it to my page, through asking one of my friends, Bignole. But thanks anyway! --Soccer5525 (Tk • Ctrb) 02:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Re:Request
Hey Transhumanist, do you think you could do me a favor? If you still have access to AWB, could you please fullfill this concern. Thanks very much if you are able to do so. -- penubag (talk) 20:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
The link I provided might be too much to read, could you just fix everything that links to Special:WhatLinksHere/Ray_tracing to be Ray tracing (graphics) ? Thank you. -- penubag (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't have access to AWB for the foreseeable future (I'm limping along on library computers). However I have set up a page for tasks like this: Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks. Not that many AWB'ers know about it yet, but I'll see what I can do about that. ;) The Transhumanist 23:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I've posted a notice at WP:CBB to attract the attention of AWB'ers to the above mentioned task page. The Transhumanist 23:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I'll see if I can find someone specific to help on this task. I know just the guy. The Transhumanist 23:27, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Oops. He just left on a 10-day vacation. Penubag, you should sign up for AWB. The only requirement is that you are an editor in good standing with at least 500 edits in the main namespace. See WP:AWB. I'm very familiar with the program, so if you need any help, I can talk you through it. It's pretty intuitive though, and shouldn't pose you any difficulties. Once your request for access has been granted, simply download and install the program. It's got search/replace, listbuilding, page autoloading, prepending/appending, and more. The Transhumanist 23:32, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
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AWB
I noticed you got approved.
Let me know if everything goes smoothly.
The Transhumanist 03:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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Xbox barnstar
Do you have a time frame of when you can get me that barnstar? Thanks. BW21.--BlackWatch21 16:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
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The Transhumanist 01:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
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There is only one section left (including its subsections) that needs to be completed before the pages are ready for Around the World:
- Branches of the government of x
- Executive branch of the government of x
- Legislative branch of the government of x
- Judicial branch of the government of x
There are a few more things that need to be completed before the lists can be moved into the main namespace:
- Fill in the blanks, and blank [[]]'s
- Population:
- Size:
- "(specific elections)" needs to be replaced by links to specific elections (by year, usually)
- International organization membership
- Commander-in-chief: [[]]
- Economic rank:
- Currency of x:
- Blue-linking (creating redirects for) standardized items for which the articles' names are not standardized:
- Fix other temporary links
- World Heritage sites in x (they all point to the same place, and need to be fixed)
- "Capital of x" needs to be replaced with the actual capital name
- Material in the lead paragraph(s) that is covered in the body of the list needs to be removed, or moved from the lead to the relevant items in the list.
- Fill in the External Links section
Moving these lists into the main namespace could have a huge impact on their development, because then each list will fall under the scope of the WikiProjects of the respective countries. That's a lot of WikiProjects that may become involved with refining and maintaining these lists.
The move will be accompanied with the placing of new sections on each of the WikiProject pages, their talk pages, placing banners on the talk pages of each list, and including links to these lists in hatnotes on the relevant articles and portals, and placing section links in the see also sections of relevant articles (Geography of x, Military of x, etc.). Lots of AWB work.
The Transhumanist 00:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Greetings Penubag
You popped in at the John Dewey page at the beginning of the year and correctly commented that the article was indigestible (my words). I came across the article a few days ago and have since applied my heavy-handed meatball surgery tactics to it and would appreciate some pointers and constructive criticism for ironing out some of the more obviously out-of-place stuff, etc. As everything at Wikipedia, this is obviously long-term, so please don't feel obliged to drop everything, but consensus is the word :) Regards, --Technopat (talk) 11:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- Greetings Penubag, Thanks for your moral support. I fully agree with your comments, but am slightly worried 'cos I don't think I've actually changed anything yet to the bit you most approve of! But as I don't actually remember now, maybe I did :) Regards, --Technopat (talk) 10:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
There's a reply on your graphics page (eom)
Wikipedia's founder
Hi! I just saw your edit summary about Jimmy - it's a matter of some dispute. Larry Sanger claims that he and Jimmy Wales are co-founders, Jimmy tends to disagree. It's all rather confusing and probably best not to get involved in - the arguments have a tendency to get a little personal. I wouldn't worry about having removed the "co-", but if someone does revert you, I suggest you just forget about it. Happy editing! --Tango (talk) 07:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
There's a reply on your graphics page (eom)
hi
if you like games play tribal wars —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.169.202 (talk) 15:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Shoutbox
Your userpage rocks and I love it!How did you make that shoutbox? I'd like one! ♣PrincessClown♥ 01:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Can you make one for me? ♣PrincessClown♥ 15:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks sooooo much for making a shoutbox for me! It rocks! But there is a slight problem, I dunno what the blank thing at the side is for and when I put it at the bottom at the page, it's looks a bit awkward. Do you mind helping me fixing it a bit? I'm not the best at this stuff. Thank you soooooooooooooo much!♣PrincessClown♥ 20:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)- Sorry. I fixed the problem. It's nothing! ♣PrincessClown♥ 21:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
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| You deserve a barnstar for your amazing userpage and for helping me with the shoutbox. It probably wasn't easy! Thanks and cheers! ♣PrincessClown♥ 16:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Wow
I'm tingling with excitement.
It won't be long now...
I've replied on your graphics page.
The Transhumanist 04:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- To my reply I added a link to a page with examples of perspective text on it. (I'm letting you know in case you've already read the reply). The Transhumanist 04:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- another reply is waiting for you on your graphics page. The Transhumanist 22:38, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- and a couple more for you too. :) The Transhumanist 22:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Status report on the rest of the project
I and a few others have been working steadily on the country lists. They're shaping up nicely. So far, 28 of them have been moved to article space - these aren't complete, but they are complete enough to be made available for readers to benefit from them. The rest of the set still includes temporary data that was generated by template (because it matched most but not all of the countries), and before the lists can be moved to article space, all the temporary data needs to be checked for accuracy, and if incorrect it needs to be replaced with correct information.
The effort on the lists has been on 3 fronts:
- Working on the lists in article space to complete them so they will be good examples for editors working on the rest of the set.
- Adding or correcting other data (fixing redlinks, filling in blanks, etc.). The main type of work participants in "the contest" will be doing. The reason we're doing this is to get a feel for it, to develop the fastest methods for each type of task, etc.
- Improving the overall design and implenting changes on all 247 pages, whether in article space or not.
There has been some opposition to us running a contest based on edit counts or iterations. The concern is that we should reward quality work and not quantity, for fear of crappy edits done quickly without thought. I pointed out that the collection of pages are drafts in the Wikipedia namespace (therefore posing no danger to article space) and that most of the work needs to be done with power tools like AWB and Linky (which are specifically designed for repetitive work), but the reply was that we shouldn't set the precedent of rewarding barnstars for numerically-based tasks, and implied the threat of continuously MfD'ing the contest if we attempted to do so (like they did with the Awards Center - I was very surprised that participants didn't step up to defend it). So we need to be careful in determining what exactly the awards will represent, and how they will be awarded.
Since rewarding iterations (passes with AWB on all of the pages in the set) are out, we really don't need the globe in stand anymore. Two awards should suffice.
Once we get started with the contest, I'd like to kick the whole thing off with a round of medals for those dedicated few who have worked hard on the project so far.
What do you think of all of this?
Your comments and suggestions are most welcome.
The Transhumanist 22:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
You've got a reply...
I've responded to your thoughtful comments on my talk page. The Transhumanist 19:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Something to keep in mind
I have some concern over how we should proceed with the contest, based on this:
User_talk:The_Transhumanist/Archive_17#Around_the_award-seeking_World
The Transhumanist 19:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Main Page redesign
The Main Page Redesign proposal is currently conducting a straw poll to select five new designs, before an RFC in which one will be proposed to replace the Main Page. The poll closes on October 31st. Your input would be hugely appreciated! Many thanks, PretzelsTalk! 15:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Adrenalin shot needed (that's where you come in)
Even though lots of work is going into them, work on the country outlines seems to be going at a snail's pace. We have the equivalent of one person working on them daily (around 2 to 3 hours per day), which is awesome and keeps things moving forward. But I estimate it will take 2 man years (at 8 hours per day) to complete the country outlines, which includes completion of content (and associated redirects and disambiguaton pages) and placement of images. Which means, at the current rate of development, we're more than 4 years out from completion. It's almost daunting.
I've been thinking about it, and it occurred to me that you have the pivotal role in this operation: the awards you have been working on will provide the context we need (excitement, by providing the basis for a contest) to attract attention (and new participants) to this project.
If we can get 20 dedicated editors working on the country outline set 2 or 3 hours per day, such a team could complete the textual content in less than two months, and move all the outlines to article space where they will attract even more attention (along with notices on all corresponding country wikiprojects).
The idea is to get these things integrated into the encyclopedia so they can achieve critical mass. Then even more people will see them and hopefully help develop them to completion (and keep them maintained). What this means is...
We're all counting on you.
No pressure or anything. :) I just thought you'd like to know that you are very important to me and to this project. I/we wouldn't be able to do this without you. Thank you.
Keep up the excellent work. I look forward to the completed trophy with extreme anticipation.
No hurry, but like Atlas in the trophy, the world rests on your shoulders. ;)
Have fun.
Sincerely,
The Transhumanist 02:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Aww, I'm blushing :). Thank you for your kind words. I didn't realize how much this meant to the whole thing. I am really happy that you acknowledge my work; something I scarcely experience on Wikipedia. Thanks.
- As for some more ideas, I think that maybe showing off the awards to uninvolved people will encourage them to contribute. As for spreading the word, little templated notices on a few userpages is all we can do, advertising elsewhere will give this project a bad reputation. Actually, a couple userpage templates will probably do the cut (I know for a fact that just because my signature is such a protruding color, I get so many clicks (don't ask how I know)). I could come up with a mock design we could use and a few of us could host the template.
- Also, if my work really makes that much of a difference to the project, I could set aside a few minutes in real life and work for you (ie. more graphic works or page designing(although your userpage proves you really good at that)), although I can't exactly gaurantee it. Just let me know if there's anything else I can do, I'll be glad to help! -- penubag (talk) 05:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- I know you've come under fire from people concerned that this project would promote a bunch of useless editing in order to win the awards. Instead of awarding based on edit count you could award based on the amount of content added/removed or changed (ie word count). Thought-provoakative edits should be also given credit even though only a few words may be changed. Fluff wouldn't count and you (or perhaps a group of people) could judge the edits of the participants and come to a conclusion who gets what award. In fact, every participant can be a judge, each with 2 votes to eliminate choosing of themselves, or maybe the bureaucratic way could be better, with you being the sole judge.
- I could make a dozen other small awards which could be given out for just participating which get more people on board or for doing other medial tasks. We can toy with this idea. -- penubag (talk) 06:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- I came up with a little mock up template design here. -- penubag (talk) 07:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- It was strongly implied that any awards page we set up for this would be interpretted as a recreation of the Awards Center and would be speedy deleted. Therefore, I will not be hosting any page where awards are offered. This time around we need to do things totally differently so that there is no similarity to the previous awards project at all. Our previous approach was objected to, so we won't be using that approach. We're ditching "Around the World" and its concept of rewarding for the "most trips around the world" (a variation of edit counting). We need to rethink the collaboration from scratch, and decide on how to best apply the awards you have created.
- Keep in mind that offers of awards still take place on Wikipedia, on user talk pages and on the Wikipedia:Reward board (take a close look at that page). I could post reward notices there; then any objections could be dealt with on an edit by edit basis. Care would be taken that awards would be in line with other awards being offered, and that barnstars are not watered down by rewarding trivial or slight effort.
- Note that the barnstar page emphasises rewarding "hard work". So we'll focus on that.
- I look forward to your further ideas and suggestions.
What about the template idea I had above? -- penubag (talk) 23:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- That sounds good. The more places we can announce this at, the better. We can also make announcements at the community portal, on the geography WikiProject page, and on the Outline of Knowledge WikiProject page. The people over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards might also be interested. The awards themselves can be displayed at Wikipedia:Personal user awards.
- There's no lack of places we can announce this collaboration at.
Another country outline moved to article space!
Topic outline of Zimbabwe is now in article space. It still needs images and some bluelinking, and is undoubtedly missing some relevant links.
Please take a look at it. You will no doubt spot things you can easily fix that I overlooked.
The Transhumanist 19:46, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- That's great news! I don't see any problems first-hand except for the red links. -- penubag (talk) 05:32, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to get work done on yet another front
Over the past few weeks, I've been exploring the possibility of getting bots to do some of the work on the country outlines. If we can find a dedicated bot maker/user to help on these, it could really speed up development.
See my latest attempt at User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough#Bot_request_for_the_bot_expert_.28you.29...
I'm telling you this in case you have some helpful insights or suggestions, or some bot expert friends. :)
We have many tasks that could probably be done by bot.
Also, let me know if you'd like to try your hand at this type of thing. I've read that Python (programming language) can be learned in a few days. And macro scripts are also pretty powerful.
The Transhumanist 23:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'd be no help at programming. I am going to take a few college classes in the future but you won't see anything for a while. -- penubag (talk) 05:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well, macro programs are no more difficult to use than graphics programs, and they increase your power immediately by about a magnitude. Some are very easy to learn, because you already know the basics - the simplest macros are just recordings of keystrokes which you can activate with a hotkey that you define. To create macros, you just activate the macro recording feature and start typing away. After you press the stop key combo and save the macro, you can either run it or go look at the macro in script form and edit it - a nice way to ease into writing scripts.
- Come on in, the water's fine.
- I've read that Python (named after Monty Python's Flying Circus and not the snake) is almost as easy to learn, being a scripting language - so moving on to this won't be so hard once you've been exposed to macro scripts. I'll be trying my hand at Python just as soon as I get a new laptop.
Alright, I'll give it a shot when I've got some time on my hands. -- penubag (talk) 23:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
you have a reply on your graphics subpage (eom)
and a couple more (eom)
Feedback is coming in
I posted a request for feedback on the trophy image, and people have been leaving their comments about Atlas on my talk page.
The Transhumanist 21:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Want power?
See this: Wikipedia:Linky tutorial.
The Transhumanist 01:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Wrong image license
I see that you made and uploaded Image:Ambox currentevent warfare.png. But you marked it as "public domain", but you may not do that since inside that image you reuse Image:TT 3.jpg which has the license "Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5". To make your image legal you have to mark it with the same license (Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5) and properly attribute the author of Image:TT 3.jpg. If you fail to do so your image has to be deleted. (Note that I can not change the license of your image for you, that would not be legal, even though it is obvious what needs to be done.)
--David Göthberg (talk) 04:47, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm usually pretty good at licenses and attribution, so I missed that one. Thanks for informing me, I'll be more careful in the future. -- penubag (talk) 06:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I will put your page up for deletion
I am sorry but the page Wikipeda:User access levels simply does not need to exist. There are many, many Wikipedia namespace pages and your not telling me you are going to going to create every single one of them with Wikipeda and redirect. I am sorry. It just doesn't need to exist. Certainly not for user access levels. Maybe the most important Wikipedia namespace page can have all the typos in the world and redirected to it. Thanks, id like your thought 211.30.109.24 (talk) 11:07, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- I am saying i am thinking of putting that page for deletion per WP:CSD#R3, redirect from an implausible typo. 211.30.109.24 (talk) 11:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC)